Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

[Mr_Moogle]

A large part of the problem IMO is that Aussie Rules has always been much more "interactive" between players and umpires than a lot of other sports, and you can't just sweep that away overnight with a massive crackdown on things as trivial as raising arms. You can't go from standard Aussie Rules to Rugby "call the referee Sir" in one step.

It'd help if umpires didn't feel like they had to explain decisions to the players so much. "You had your arm around him", "I can't call what I can't see" and so on. Blow the whistle, name the infraction, move on.

I don't follow Rugby but a work mate told me about the "sir" thing and I lost my shit.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Why not a yellow card system for dissent. Works similar to soccer.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Starting to get media people agreeing with Tex’s stance

Next game Tex should kick his opponent the same way Cotchin did. It’s a free hit.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Why not a yellow card system for dissent. Works similar to soccer.

Hell no. Some non-Vic team will come up against a Vic team in a GF and the ump will suddenly get trigger happy with the red card.

 

[George CantStandYa]

So essentially they just admitted that staging for frees is not a reportable offense.

How can they be this stupid?

What’s worse, they copped a 50 metre penalty for questioning what the AFL have confirmed was the wrong decision.

 

[AFC3000]

Even that is one thing, what I really dislike is players actually try to play for a 50m penalty.

Yep, is playing for a 50m penalty, like Port were doing in the showdown any worse than diving for a free kick?

I'm not sure, they both end up with the same result.

Maybe it should be treated like staging.


I guess the difference is with the 50m thing you are trying to get somebody else to do the wrong thing and staging you are just pretending they did.

I still didn't think it was a great look on the night (maybe because it was happening to us and not by us!)

 

[Gtowncrow]

It’s worse than that, you can’t even show your own frustration as they’ll take it as frustration at the decision.

This is an AFL wide problem. I think all fans are thinking just like us.
Solution...
Much greater and prolonged booing by the crowd directed to the umpires.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Its dangerous, because they can decide a game subjectively.

I think the mods on here should rule this way for the record, lol.

Are you raising your arms? Thought so...

Mods take note of dissent.

 

[Iron]

Brad Scott telling everyone they need to be a bit less hot headed and demonstrative. Nothing means anything anymore.

 

[Bay62]

AFL Match Statistics : Port Adelaide defeats Brisbane at MCG Grand Final Saturday, 25th September 2004

Port Adelaide defeats Brisbane at MCG Grand Final Saturday, 25th September 2004 AFL match statistics

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Many thanks

 

[GROTTO]

They’re taking the piss right. On the very same night Hawkins gets found to have staged but yeah, no penalty for him.

Hawkins didnt just stage either, he literally flew into the sky.

If an umpire was not paying attention, thats a "clear" free kick to him.

 

[Bay62]

Sorry what have I missed?

What did Tex say that the AFL are looking into?

Thanks

 

[FR0GGY]

Sorry what have I missed?

What did Tex say that the AFL are looking into?

Thanks

That Cotchin is protected and the mro would have given him weeks and Toby Greene a year.

 

[chazwazza]

One of the best protests possible is for supporters to turn their backs to the game. It works in soccer but soccer supporters seem to be much more united as a group, Aussie Rules supporters tend to think of their own clique only.

 

[FR0GGY]

One of the best protests possible is for supporters to turn their backs to the game. It works in soccer but soccer supporters seem to be much more united as a group, Aussie Rules supporters tend to think of their own clique only.

Everyone stand with their arms out?

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

One of the best protests possible is for supporters to turn their backs to the game. It works in soccer but soccer supporters seem to be much more united as a group, Aussie Rules supporters tend to think of their own clique only.

A tifo would do the job

“Here for the game, not the umpires”

 

[Bob Neil]

At the 50 second mark of the next match all supporters should stand with their arms outstretched for a minute as their silent protest against the AFL.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Brad Scott is just a pissant scared little boy. Upset his brother Chris is better than him in every way. Upset he was such a loser as a head coach.

Now the AFL is going to pay.

It’s a bit more involved than this.

This syndrome is, in fact, a raging epidemic in a lot of modern organizations and government bureaucracies.

Someone who conducted their career in a particular fashion, slowly but surely abandons principles and views they were widely known to hold, at a pace commensurate with their rise to executive leadership roles.

By the time they’re a head honcho there’s nothing left but a shell, they’ve sold out everything they once believed in, in favour of hivemind handjobs.

This is a modern syndrome and Gen Xs are the culprits… they’re now the ones taking over these positions and ****ing everything up.

Brad Scott is merely a poster child for this. This is a bloke who was a known tough-guy and antagonist on the field, he played in a team regarded as probably the hardest of the modern era — they took no prisoners and they spared nobody.

He’s the last bloke you’d expect to continue down the path of neutering the game.

But he’ll do it.

He’ll actively push for the game to become a floppy, flaccid shadow of itself.

Don’t expect anything less.

 

[BACCS]

 

[Glenno23]

 

[Gtowncrow]

It’s a bit more involved than this.

This syndrome is, in fact, a raging epidemic in a lot of modern organizations and government bureaucracies.

Someone who conducted their career in a particular fashion, slowly but surely abandons principles and views they were widely known to hold, at a pace commensurate with their rise to executive leadership roles.

By the time they’re a head honcho there’s nothing left but a shell, they’ve sold out everything they once believed in, in favour of hivemind handjobs.

This is a modern syndrome and Gen Xs are the culprits… they’re now the ones taking over these positions and ******* everything up.

Brad Scott is merely a poster child for this. This is a bloke who was a known tough-guy and antagonist on the field, he played in a team regarded as probably the hardest of the modern era — they took no prisoners and they spared nobody.

He’s the last bloke you’d expect to continue down the path of neutering the game.

But he’ll do it.

He’ll actively push for the game to become a floppy, flaccid shadow of itself.

Don’t expect anything less.

Didn't Brad start working for the AFL? Chris might be positioning himself for a post Geelong job.

 

[FR0GGY]

So something that was deemed worthy of a fine, overturned a free and then subsequently caused a 50 resulting in a goal?

 

[ams4crows]

Jesus. Reckon we're in trouble here, but like most teams I guess.

What about paying a free for flapping your arms like a seagull, screaming at the umps for a free? I'd like to see that. Port would have 20 50's given against every match.

Robbie Gray will be responsible for 10 opposition goals if the pay a 50 everytime he puts his arms out

 

[adelaidecrows]

A large part of the problem IMO is that Aussie Rules has always been much more "interactive" between players and umpires than a lot of other sports, and you can't just sweep that away overnight with a massive crackdown on things as trivial as raising arms. You can't go from standard Aussie Rules to Rugby "call the referee Sir" in one step.

It'd help if umpires didn't feel like they had to explain decisions to the players so much. "You had your arm around him", "I can't call what I can't see" and so on. Blow the whistle, name the infraction, move on.

The issue for me isn't this rule. It's the argument as to what it's supposed to prevent. Umpire abuse is a blight on the game. But it's not players who are the problem. So here we are, the AFL has decided to use players as the educational tool to increase respect for umpires at all levels.

Problem is, the players were never the problem. The AFLs stance has backfired because it was some decision made adhoc because someone saw a stats sheet on a down turn of umpires and guessed it was for abuse. The reality is kids are for the most part lazy gamers now with little interest in sport let alone umpiring the thing.

Abuse plays a part but it's from the crowds, they aren't walking away because of player abuse. All they have done is amped up abuse and frankly, the gutless umpires should be ashamed for not refusing to officiate that rule.

This is what I'd love to see. The AFLPA organise a player strike against the rule and refuse to partake in receiving a 50. That would be a very powerful statement. The AFL have stated they are prepared to ruin games over it. As far as I am concerned that's a step to far and the players should tell them enough.

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[hippyhippy]

Everyone stand with their arms out?

That would be magical if the whole crowd did this as a bug f#ck you to the afl... they deserve it
.. this waving hands business is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in afl