Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

[GROTTO]

on a Million dollars a year as well. Incredible.

Grundy the true winner here. Really did a number on the Pies. Im not even sure they would pay him half of that per year now.

 

[StickerMan]

But to be fair, at that age group its generally the parents that are officiating games, running lines etc (if you are in clubland) so its hard for a parent to send off a kid as most parents have little understanding of the rules and what they can and cannot do to kids in terms of warnings and sendings off etc

I am not sure how it works for school sports - do they have proper refs there?

Yeah they have proper ref's

My son also plays soccer and similar things happened last year in u9s where he got taken out and ref did nothing.

I don't think there are cards in that grade but a free kick would have been nice!

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[rocket18]

hilarious part about that is this question; Where are all the Chinese fans?

China was never a good idea and its better its over. All it was was a member funded jaunt for port execs and sponsors who didnt watch the game while a handful of dedicated fans who travelled actually watched the game, not to mention the state government wasting tax payer funded money for the piss up under the guise of opening South Australia to China. Terrible idea that was horribly carried out and was cringeworthy at best. Credit to Port for conning the AFL into participating in the self serving exercise.

Credit to the Chinese guy who sponsored hoodwinked Port, all the money they received from Mr Gui had to be spent in China on school clinics, promotions etc.

Plus they got a few thousand bogan Powah supporters to spend their Centrelink money in China instead of Bali.

The SA government paid a few $100k for the naming "rights" of the ground, like you say it was all about Kochie and the other hanger oners enjoying the jaunt to China - wasn't there a local mayor who went over for the game on rate payers money. The whole thing was such a scam on so many levels.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

But to be fair, at that age group its generally the parents that are officiating games, running lines etc (if you are in clubland) so its hard for a parent to send off a kid as most parents have little understanding of the rules and what they can and cannot do to kids in terms of warnings and sendings off etc

I am not sure how it works for school sports - do they have proper refs there?

Yeah it was a parent officiating (was a club game) but it wasn't the first tackle this same kid had dished out, if I was in charge I would have at a minimum had a word with the opposition coach about it.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Credit to the Chinese guy who sponsored hoodwinked Port, all the money they received from Mr Gui had to be spent in China on school clinics, promotions etc.

Plus they got a few thousand bogan Powah supporters to spend their Centrelink money in China instead of Bali.

The SA government paid a few $100k for the naming "rights" of the ground, like you say it was all about Kochie and the other hanger oners enjoying the jaunt to China - wasn't there a local mayor who went over for the game on rate payers money. The whole thing was such a scam on so many levels.

Classic example of where an ICAC with teeth is needed, it was a con right from the start.

 

[Crow till I die]

Yeah they have proper ref's

My son also plays soccer and similar things happened last year in u9s where he got taken out and ref did nothing.

I don't think there are cards in that grade but a free kick would have been nice!

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what about when parents get involved

And even then the dad still threw his arms up in the air haha

 

[Crow till I die]

Yeah it was a parent officiating (was a club game) but it wasn't the first tackle this same kid had dished out, if I was in charge I would have at a minimum had a word with the opposition coach about it.

I hear you - one of my lads has been in clubland since he was quite young and there are some coaches out there that instruct their kids to go in rough. Some coaches also verbally abuse their kids and those on the other team too - ugly stuff.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Impressive that you've turned a conversation about umpiring, into a conversation about Covid. Well done for shoehorning that in here.

Please also tell me where the 'arms out 50m' decision has been based on a statistic?

You're literally making things up to suit your little rant about an entirely different topic.

It's weird.

Now that I know you hate it I’ll do it a lot more often

 

[Bay62]

Grundy the true winner here. Really did a number on the Pies. Im not even sure they would pay him half of that per year now.

I know that in situations like that the player has the club over a barrel - give me 7 years on big bucks or I’ll go elsewhere - so the club isn’t in much of a position to make demands, but surely it’s reasonable to put in the contract something about “for $1m per year you have to finish top 10 in the B&F”

Just SOME level of “we want a reasonable return on our investment”

 

[adelaidecrows]

I hear you - one of my lads has been in clubland since he was quite young and there are some coaches out there that instruct their kids to go in rough. Some coaches also verbally abuse their kids and those on the other team too - ugly stuff.

The blight on junior sport are coaches who manipulate kids abilities and lack of umpire experience or if the club supplied the umpire to win, instead of actually teaching them to play the game successfully as they rise up the levels.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Now that I know you hate it I’ll do it a lot more often

Cool, embarrass yourself further. Why would I care?

 

[Crow till I die]

The blight on junior sport are coaches who manipulate kids abilities and lack of umpire experience or if the club supplied the umpire to win, instead of actually teaching them to play the game successfully as they rise up the levels.

Soccer is an interesting one. The recent rise of soccer academies is a great thing as generally those who run them are ex pros from other countries with heaps of experience. They are levels better than what you find at just about all the local clubs so if you can , get your child into one as they learn the game much better there and it toughens them up too and then they can deal with the issues you raised or see them for what they are

 

[arrowman]

I'd just like to say: I have today received an offer of share options from one of my investments.

The number of options I have been allocated?

119

It's an omen, surely.

 

[Iron]

It started after last year’s preliminary

During

 

[AFC3000]

Port openly marketed they sold out each and every game. While, at the same time they also stated they gave thousands of tickets to schools for kids to come to the match (which they didn't) and they gave tickets outside of the ground and around the city. They also ran clinics for school kids and gave thousands in gear. The only thing making the game worthwhile was the Port fans conned into parting with thousands to attend a match under the impression the club was about to score multi million dollar sponsorship deals that would propel Port into the richest of the rich list of clubs.

The locals were never going to those games.

Imagine if sides were reversed, China send their best badmington team, no, one of their least relevant badminton teams, to play one of their other least relevant badminton teams here in Australia. If you're excluding friends, family, and Chinese tourists, you could hold the game in a scout hall and it still wouldn't be a sell out, no tents required.

Now flip our populations, try getting the little badminton game noticed in a population of 1.5 billion people with millions of better things to do.

Even if there were 10,000 people interested, marketing to them would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

Koch standing at Shanghai Stadium, talking about just needing a percent of a percent or whatever else was only ever to build hype, sell hope and con their members into thinking something big was happening.

It was always about government deals and selling flight packages to poor members who were convinced to fly half way across the world to sit on a concrete concourse at a dingy suburban stadium.

 

[pjcrows]

 

[Sanders]

Jesus Vader, you got too much time on your hands on that cruise of yours

Well if the Grannies aren’t biting, then time with his hands is all that’s left

 

[FR0GGY]

Well if the Grannies aren’t biting, then time with his hands is all that’s left

To be honest I pictured the Seniors Buffet as something entirely different.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Are there "proper" umpires at any junior sporting event?

No

There are guys (or kids) that have done an online course, been given the clothing and own their own whistle.

The No 1 requirement is Are you prepared to do a job no one else wants to do for a handful of dollars? And would you like to give up some of your weekend?

Coaches: Why aren't they very good at it???
For the same reason most of you aren't good coaches

 

[adelaidecrows]

Are there "proper" umpires at any junior sporting event?

No

There are guys (or kids) that have done an online course, been given the clothing and own their own whistle.

The No 1 requirement is Are you prepared to do a job no one else wants to do for a handful of dollars? And would you like to give up some of your weekend?

Coaches: Why aren't they very good at it???
For the same reason most of you aren't good coaches

Good call. Kids are kids. They won't always get it right. Adults need to act like adults.

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[Slippery Pete]

Are there "proper" umpires at any junior sporting event?

No

There are guys (or kids) that have done an online course, been given the clothing and own their own whistle.

The No 1 requirement is Are you prepared to do a job no one else wants to do for a handful of dollars? And would you like to give up some of your weekend?

Coaches: Why aren't they very good at it???
For the same reason most of you aren't good coaches

Not sure that’s right. Junior footy umpires have coaching, and they train during the week.

Well, they did, at one point. Would be surprised if that’s changed.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Not sure that’s right. Junior umpires have coaching, and they train during the week.

Well, they did, at one point. Would be surprised if that’s changed.

They don't train and if they do it's mostly fitness related

They're not watching vision and going through the Under 12 rules of their zone that the clubs voted on at the last association meeting so please be aware that Rule X has changed...

 

[Dirty Bird]

Soccer is an interesting one. The recent rise of soccer academies is a great thing as generally those who run them are ex pros from other countries with heaps of experience. They are levels better than what you find at just about all the local clubs so if you can , get your child into one as they learn the game much better there and it toughens them up too and then they can deal with the issues you raised or see them for what they are

Soccer?
Toughens them up?

Oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

 

[Crow till I die]

Soccer?
Toughens them up?

Oxymoron if I've ever seen one.

Context my good dirty bird..context

A mate of mine that played Rugby Union at quite a high level in the UK always said about soccer

'Soccer players spend 90 minutes pretending to be injured...Rugby players spend 80 minutes pretending not to be'

he also said Rugby was invented as soccer players need heroes too

Go figure

 

[1970crow]

It’s a bit more involved than this.

This syndrome is, in fact, a raging epidemic in a lot of modern organizations and government bureaucracies.

Someone who conducted their career in a particular fashion, slowly but surely abandons principles and views they were widely known to hold, at a pace commensurate with their rise to executive leadership roles.

By the time they’re a head honcho there’s nothing left but a shell, they’ve sold out everything they once believed in, in favour of hivemind handjobs.

This is a modern syndrome and Gen Xs are the culprits… they’re now the ones taking over these positions and ******* everything up.

Brad Scott is merely a poster child for this. This is a bloke who was a known tough-guy and antagonist on the field, he played in a team regarded as probably the hardest of the modern era — they took no prisoners and they spared nobody.

He’s the last bloke you’d expect to continue down the path of neutering the game.

But he’ll do it.

He’ll actively push for the game to become a floppy, flaccid shadow of itself.
UsDon’t expect anything less.

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That would be magical if the whole crowd did this as a bug f#ck you to the afl... they deserve it
.. this waving hands business is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in afl

What would be awesome would be if a huge portion of the crowd reacted with the same action to every free kick paid. So every time the whistle is blown, over half the crowd do a Scott and throw their arms out in disbelief. Keep it silent though, it’s not an umpire issue.