Oppo Camp Non Eagles AFL discussion thread III

[Truckosaurus]

People like to criticise Masten for being a pick 3, but Scully's essentially the same player but taken at pick 1.

 

[JDWCE]

Thought they were gonna be such a threat when they got Scully cheap

He was pretty trash tonight at key moments

Bombs it high and long far too often. Well played to the roos though. He barely got any space tonight

 

[HoneyBadger35]

What’s with that song intro

Lots of fun, heaps of fun, enjoy yourself today!

 

[caspian]

Liking the roos at the moment. Brown flops way too much but otherwise they seem like a pretty affable bunch. A lot of irritatingly good natured teams in the comp right now, give us a villain ya cowards

 

[Max zero]

People like to criticise Masten for being a pick 3, but Scully's essentially the same player but taken at pick 1.

With a lot more reliable body to boot.

 

[the harry]

People like to criticise Masten for being a pick 3, but Scully's essentially the same player but taken at pick 1.

People get annoyed at him because they look at what he can't do rather than what he does quite well. He's not the "big bodied inside mid we've been looking for", but runs as long as any and is pretty important for our structure and the makeup of our 22.

 

[ziad]

That essentially ends Hawthorn's finals chances

to old, most kids B grade when the heat is on

 

[Dylan82]

Hawthorn featured 8 players aged beyond 30 in last night's match - a record in the modern era (you have to go back to the period of players returning from WW2 to find an example surpassing this).

Burgoyne, Puopolo, Birchall, Henderson, Frawley, Smith, Stratton and McEvoy.

Massive turnover coming for the Hawks at the end of the season.


Will be interesting to see what they try to do during the trade period.

 

[Forward Press]

Hawthorn featured 8 players aged beyond 30 in last night's match - a record in the modern era (you have to go back to the period of players returning from WW2 to find an example surpassing this).

Burgoyne, Puopolo, Birchall, Henderson, Frawley, Smith, Stratton and McEvoy.

Massive turnover coming for the Hawks at the end of the season.


Will be interesting to see what they try to do during the trade period.

The remnants of the threepeat.

An unbelievable side worthy of being in the debate for GOAT premiership eras but that was four years ago now. I am however fairly confident Clarko knows how to manage a rebuild - he's done it before.

 

[FKASC]

The remnants of the threepeat.

An unbelievable side worthy of being in the debate for GOAT premiership eras but that was four years ago now. I am however fairly confident Clarko knows how to manage a rebuild - he's done it before.

Had access to some really good draft picks back in the early-mid 00s though. He’ll go down the trade and free agency path this time around. Coniglio etc

 

[ioppolo]

Hawthorn featured 8 players aged beyond 30 in last night's match - a record in the modern era (you have to go back to the period of players returning from WW2 to find an example surpassing this).

Burgoyne, Puopolo, Birchall, Henderson, Frawley, Smith, Stratton and McEvoy.

Massive turnover coming for the Hawks at the end of the season.


Will be interesting to see what they try to do during the trade period.

Burgoyne retire, Puopolo retire/move on, Birchall 50/50, Henderson keep, Frawley keep but phase out, Smith keep or 50/50, Stratton keep but phase out, McEvoy keep but phase out.

Basically turn some of them into depth or move them on. Henderson has had a career best year and McEvoy is still their best ruckman for now.

 

[WCErevival]

Birchall has to be 100% gone. Body is shot.

 

[Truckosaurus]

There's also the not-playing-but-totally-gone Roughead.

 

[liam123]

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Hawks are going about it all wrong by targeting and over paying for certain players. The addition of JOM, Scully, Wingard etc is different to how they previously built their list. Building lists is done primarily by drafting players and topping up through trade and free agency. The problem they will continue to have is that their A graders will be surrounded by C graders and they will continue to be a mid-low range team. The issue with AFL is that it’s a best 22 not a best 11 or whatever other sports have. Given injuries are also unavoidable you need probably 30 Capable players to make a serious tilt. I don’t see the hawks getting anywhere near that with their current strategy. I hope west coast continues to hit the draft hard!

 

[Forward Press]

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Hawks are going about it all wrong by targeting and over paying for certain players. The addition of JOM, Scully, Wingard etc is different to how they previously built their list. Building lists is done primarily by drafting players and topping up through trade and free agency. The problem they will continue to have is that their A graders will be surrounded by C graders and they will continue to be a mid-low range team. The issue with AFL is that it’s a best 22 not a best 11 or whatever other sports have. Given injuries are also unavoidable you need probably 30 Capable players to make a serious tilt. I don’t see the hawks getting anywhere near that with their current strategy. I hope west coast continues to hit the draft hard!

The specific targeting of players like Gibson, Lake, S Burgoyne, Gunston, McEvoy, Frawley etc did pay off, though.

The reality is that you will often have to pay overs for players in hot demand, along with the reality that luck with injuries plays a part in winning flags. If someone like Coniglio was available if we gave them our first two picks in this year's draft plus Venables or someone like that I'd personally pay forthe Uber to ship him off to the airport on the next flight to Sydney.

I don't have any issues with Hawthorn's strategy over the past few years since the threepeat.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Some people have strong feelings about the giant Eagles’ head replacing a banner. A quick look at today’s efforts:

Port - “Port Adelaide footy is what we’re about. Strike the Bombers out.”
Essendon - “James Hird Academy. Yesterday’s legends, tomorrow’s stars.”

Inspiring stuff, brb just going to run through a wall because I’m so pumped up.

 

[FatPizza]

Some people have strong feelings about the giant Eagles’ head replacing a banner. A quick look at today’s efforts:

Port - “Port Adelaide footy is what we’re about. Strike the Bombers out.”
Essendon - “James Hird Academy. Yesterday’s legends, tomorrow’s stars.”

Inspiring stuff, brb just going to run through a wall because I’m so pumped up.

I'm pretty sure anyone who goes to the James Hird Academy would actually be jacked up enough to be able to run through a wall.

 

[Biggie]

Some people have strong feelings about the giant Eagles’ head replacing a banner. A quick look at today’s efforts:

Port - “Port Adelaide footy is what we’re about. Strike the Bombers out.”
Essendon - “James Hird Academy. Yesterday’s legends, tomorrow’s stars.”

Inspiring stuff, brb just going to run through a wall because I’m so pumped up.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Essendon’s percentage is probably too low to trouble anyone but Richmond and Collingwood, so we sort of want them to win here, no? Keeps multiple teams (GWS, Essendon) ready to pounce on those sides?

 

[Keys]

Some people have strong feelings about the giant Eagles’ head replacing a banner. A quick look at today’s efforts:

Port - “Port Adelaide footy is what we’re about. Strike the Bombers out.”
Essendon - “James Hird Academy. Yesterday’s legends, tomorrow’s stars.”

Inspiring stuff, brb just going to run through a wall because I’m so pumped up.

I’ve always thought banners were over rated. Should be reserved for big milestone games (150+) and finals

Remember watching a VFL GF live for the first time (1979) and being in awe of the huge banners, although being 12 at the time would have been a contributing factor. When you do something all the time though it loses its lustre

The giant eagle head is a bit naff but I prefer it to a banner

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Aaron Francis is so promising, can’t fathom how he’s in and out of the side so often.

The all fringe team led by Hugh Greenwood and Aaron Francis would do the Gold Coast easily.

 

[Keys]

Essendon’s percentage is probably too low to trouble anyone but Richmond and Collingwood, so we sort of want them to win here, no? Keeps multiple teams (GWS, Essendon) ready to pounce on those sides?

Result of this game has very little baring on us. Don’t like either side much so a draw would be fun

I’ve tipped port so go power I guess

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Result of this game has very little baring on us. Don’t like either side much so a draw would be fun

I’ve tipped port so go power I guess

It shouldn’t impact us, but it might impact teams chasing us.

If the Bombers win, their percentage will only be the equivalent of about 20-30 points behind Richmond. Richmond obviously have a game in hand, but with West Coast and Brisbane remaining they could drop a game and have it be a percentage race.

Essendon have Dogs at Marvel, Freo at Optus and Collingwood at the G, so they’re a chance, albeit slim.

I just want more pressure on Richmond and a host of teams waiting to capitalise if they slip up at all. Richmond not being able to tank R23 to come fourth is the dream.

 

[ioppolo]

Power, so that dickhead Hinkley can keep his job another week.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Aaron Francis my god. So good.