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Makes no sense to me at all. Scott shot his mouth off in his typically hot headed manner; that's not North's fault.

The club retracted as soon as it was clear that Scott's accusation was false.

I reckon they're entitled to be pretty annoyed about that.
Assuming he's an employee of North (and not directly employed by the AFL - which I think is how players are set up) then it's probably an employee law thing. If you screw up at work it's your employer that gets sued/charged not you personally. Of course their maybe ramifications from your employer but that's a sepperate issue.
 

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But using the most directly relevant example of umpire comments...

In other words, Hird in 2004. Essendon weren't fined then, only Hird was. Why would North be now?
Because it's the AFL and they just do whatever they feel like at that moment silly.
 

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But using the most directly relevant example of umpire comments...

In other words, Hird in 2004. Essendon weren't fined then, only Hird was. Why would North be now?
Difference between making those comments in your post match presser and making them on TFS I would assume. Scott did it within the actual domain of the sport.
 

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Surely Brayshaw and McGuire must stand down as President's of their clubs - You can't have figureheads making such childish remarks in a public forum - And both are serial offenders - On another note I wonder about suitability of people in high powered or even ceremonial type posts - Or even candidates who are given awards like Father of the Year, Austrakian of the Year etc.
 

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Not sure what purpose this serves really. Do we really think club presidents need to sit around a table and discuss domestic violence, like all of a sudden this falls on their shoulders to fix.

Why do sporting codes need to become the responsibility for fixing general public issues?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-...estic-violence-round-table-says-our-watch-ceo

This whole thing has become crazy.
Spot on - Doesn't help when the AFL tries to become something for every cause out their in society - I thought the remarks on MMM were bullying and hard core bullying - I struggle to see the relationship with domestic violence.
 

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Agreed.

And worse, sometimes I think the fact that the AFL's 'big statements' are so obviously window dressing PR exercises actually acts as a negative in the long run. How many times have we seen a sports person be the 'face' of something, and then it's emerged that they're engaging in exactly the behaviour they're supposedly bemoaning?

People see through it.

I'm not saying there's never a place for such things, but this idea that the AFL needs to pretend to be a moral barometer on everything is ridiculous.
Spot on with your post - This is more the debate we should be having around the MMM issue - Vetting of candidates who head up campaigns is poor.
 

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Spot on - Doesn't help when the AFL tries to become something for every cause out their in society - I thought the remarks on MMM were bullying and hard core bullying - I struggle to see the relationship with domestic violence.

There is no point revisiting the context to try to argue around it. By this point the meaning has taken on a life of its own and follows wherever those with the loudest voices want to take it.

I think we're probably in agreement, in that we expect professional media performers and important figureheads to be smart enough to understand the way these things can blow up.


I am not sure that I trust the motivations of McGuire, in particular, anyway. He has so much ammunition to attack Wilson's credibility and he chooses to play the schoolyard bully instead. That says more about his true attitudes than his apologies do.

I wonder about the extent to which Wilson is protected by the AFL. I cannot believe that no one has ever called her out for her bias and blatant pursuit of AFL agendas all while maintaining the reputation of a fearless and independent journalist.
 
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