In a way I think 2004 and 2005 were also Hard to swallow at the time.
Especially 2005. What could’ve been.
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Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II
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In a way I think 2004 and 2005 were also Hard to swallow at the time.
Especially 2005. What could’ve been.
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I will never forgive Davis or the Swans for that theft. Never.
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Now that’s what I call a leap year.
It sucked
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Still baffled as to why the final quarter went for 30 minutes, 20 seconds. Only had a total of 5 goals kicked.
You can see in finals played weeks earlier, same number of goals were kicked and the quarters finished with less than 29 minutes remaining. Most went for 26 minutes.
Puts on conspiracy hat
AFL saw the comeback was on and a potential Swans victory. Thus told the the timekeeper to hold off until the Swans were in front.
Puts on conspiracy hat
AFL saw the comeback was on and a potential Swans victory. Thus told the the timekeeper to hold off until the Swans were in front.
Shame the timekeeper didn't leave 35 seconds on the clock. Had to be only 3 seconds remaining
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I wonder if norf would consider dahl as a DFA? still only 29 and would give some mongrel. worst case he can prop up their VFL team so they need help there too lol
It's not about capacity. The new proposed stadium is only 25k or so. It's location and facilities.
GWS and Gold Coast? They built new stadiums. Those stadiums both existed but they rebuilt them. It's such a bad comparison that it completely destroys the argument. Imagine if Gold Coast was still the old Carrara that North played at in the 90s.
Launceston, I'm not sure why a new tassie side would play there at all. Personally, I'd let Hawthorn still play their 3-4 games there. Stadium is in a great location but has shit facilities for both patrons and any potential club to play/train there. Do you think Geelong would still be playing in Geelong if we hadn't rebuilt any of our stands? Hard no, we'd be a Docklands tenant
. My belief is that the league will continue to add teams over the next 20-50 years and eventually end up in a division/conference system (talking 24 clubs or so). If that's the case, then you want room for both a Hobart and Launceston team imo.In the meantime, leave the tassie team to take on a Hobart identity. Not a big fan of broad named teams (has it worked for GWS, North or Bulldogs? I'd say no). Bellerive is a great stadium in a shit location. Complete opposite problem to Launceston. Think of the move in SA from Footy Park to Adelaide Oval, in WA from Subi to Optus. You need a central location that can act as a precinct hub. You want people to come into the CBD, spend money, walk to the ground, spend money, then walk back to the CBD and spend money. Bellerive you have to drive to/from the ground. No other options (busses don't have the capacity, KP would be ****ed without the train station).
As for North Melbourne, I like the idea of them playing 9 home games and 2 away games in the NT/NQLD (4 in Darwin, 4 in Alice Springs and 3 in Cairs, away games would be against clubs who sell games up there, like Melbourne and St Kilda). Then play 9 away games against VIC clubs in VIC and 2 home games at Docklands. Not sure a NT team will stack up for a while, but gives proper representation, some $$$ and more importantly, would be a massive draw for drafting/trading and retaining high quality indigenous talent.
All food for thought.
So North would never have to play in WA, SA, Sydney, Brisbane or GC ??It's not about capacity. The new proposed stadium is only 25k or so. It's location and facilities.
GWS and Gold Coast? They built new stadiums. Those stadiums both existed but they rebuilt them. It's such a bad comparison that it completely destroys the argument. Imagine if Gold Coast was still the old Carrara that North played at in the 90s.
Launceston, I'm not sure why a new tassie side would play there at all. Personally, I'd let Hawthorn still play their 3-4 games there. Stadium is in a great location but has s**t facilities for both patrons and any potential club to play/train there. Do you think Geelong would still be playing in Geelong if we hadn't rebuilt any of our stands? Hard no, we'd be a Docklands tenant
In the meantime, leave the tassie team to take on a Hobart identity. Not a big fan of broad named teams (has it worked for GWS, North or Bulldogs? I'd say no). Bellerive is a great stadium in a s**t location. Complete opposite problem to Launceston. Think of the move in SA from Footy Park to Adelaide Oval, in WA from Subi to Optus. You need a central location that can act as a precinct hub. You want people to come into the CBD, spend money, walk to the ground, spend money, then walk back to the CBD and spend money. Bellerive you have to drive to/from the ground. No other options (busses don't have the capacity, KP would be *ed without the train station).
As for North Melbourne, I like the idea of them playing 9 home games and 2 away games in the NT/NQLD (4 in Darwin, 4 in Alice Springs and 3 in Cairs, away games would be against clubs who sell games up there, like Melbourne and St Kilda). Then play 9 away games against VIC clubs in VIC and 2 home games at Docklands. Not sure a NT team will stack up for a while, but gives proper representation, some $$$ and more importantly, would be a massive draw for drafting/trading and retaining high quality indigenous talent.
All food for thought.
Surprised someone read all the way to the bottom.
That's the trade off if you want to relocate them but keep a presence in Melb. Keeping the main training base in Ardern St saves costs on building something big up north.
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It's not about capacity. The new proposed stadium is only 25k or so. It's location and facilities.
GWS and Gold Coast? They built new stadiums. Those stadiums both existed but they rebuilt them. It's such a bad comparison that it completely destroys the argument. Imagine if Gold Coast was still the old Carrara that North played at in the 90s.
Launceston, I'm not sure why a new tassie side would play there at all. Personally, I'd let Hawthorn still play their 3-4 games there. Stadium is in a great location but has s**t facilities for both patrons and any potential club to play/train there. Do you think Geelong would still be playing in Geelong if we hadn't rebuilt any of our stands? Hard no, we'd be a Docklands tenant
In the meantime, leave the tassie team to take on a Hobart identity. Not a big fan of broad named teams (has it worked for GWS, North or Bulldogs? I'd say no). Bellerive is a great stadium in a s**t location. Complete opposite problem to Launceston. Think of the move in SA from Footy Park to Adelaide Oval, in WA from Subi to Optus. You need a central location that can act as a precinct hub. You want people to come into the CBD, spend money, walk to the ground, spend money, then walk back to the CBD and spend money. Bellerive you have to drive to/from the ground. No other options (busses don't have the capacity, KP would be *ed without the train station).
As for North Melbourne, I like the idea of them playing 9 home games and 2 away games in the NT/NQLD (4 in Darwin, 4 in Alice Springs and 3 in Cairs, away games would be against clubs who sell games up there, like Melbourne and St Kilda). Then play 9 away games against VIC clubs in VIC and 2 home games at Docklands. Not sure a NT team will stack up for a while, but gives proper representation, some $$$ and more importantly, would be a massive draw for drafting/trading and retaining high quality indigenous talent.
All food for thought.
Launceston and Bellerive both have their good / bad points, but Tassie is way too small for 2 state based teams.
The crowds are small, and Tassie football is of a low standard. Grass roots footy is struggling, and it's just not the breeding ground it once was, or people believe ot to be, as evidenced by the steady decline in Tasmanian footballers recruited to the AFL over the years.
To small right now? Very much yes. Just think the team should be Hobart based so that in the future, if/when that changes, there's room for a Launceston team. In the meantime, Hawthorn can still play there if it's beneficial to both parties.
Bellreive would make a great initial base and eventual training base. But new stadium near/in the CBD is needed for longevity. See AO.
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Bellerive is a nice stadium, but getting parking and departure is terrible.
Hobart is obviously the major population centre, but age old parochialism will dictate that some games be played in Launceston.
Given the lack of population growth, traditionally higher unemployment etc it's hard to see a second team ever being viable.
Crowds of 10,000 just won't cut it.
That's why Bellerive is the temporary stadium whilst the new one is set up. Hawthorn continue to play out of Launceston so they don't miss out, including the Hobart team playing them there in Launceston.
Again, right now a second team isn't viable. In 50 years time, if (as hoped) an AFL team in Hobart has helped regenerate tassie football, who knows, maybe?
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Hard to see how they afford a new stadium. I heard the tassie govt has withdrawn their 50/50 offer??
If they can attract industry and create jobs they might draw people and perhaps, well down the track, they can re-visit the whole thing.
I'm tipping there'll be no Tassie team for the foreseeable future. Some say it'll be the death of footy in the state if that occurs...... I'm not sure about that but the quality of footy in Tassie is very ordinary. Grass root competitions are dying, and the higher tier leagues are a shadow of their former selves.
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They are running out of time.
They can’t get to the finals and just “flick the switch”.
If they lose tonight I’ll pretty much write them off for the top 4.
They just aren’t playing with the hunger they had last year. And it’s shows with them falling from 1st (or there abouts) last year to 18th in pressure this year.
They look tired.
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Even if they make top 4 I don't see them making waves in Finals. It's all gone wrong at the wrong time for them.
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Just goes to show how ****ing hard it is to go back to back.
Which, and I really hate to say this, garners respect for what the hawks were able to do (not the tigers, bubble seasons don't count in that same regard).
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Dees run home is brutal. If they make top 2/4, they'll have well and truly earned it.
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I'm not going to write them off because we all know how important it is to get it right at the right time of the year, so there's still time for them... But maybe they don't have quite that same level of hunger this year that they did last year when they broke their premiership drought
Even as the reigning premiers, you just play at the level you were year before, and you need to find that next level and just not sure if Melbourne has done that this year or if there's a bit of complacency that's crept into their game
Even thinking back to their clash with us, Jackson had missed the week before with injury & Gawn had missed a month with a syndesmosis injury, and while he had the most hitouts that night, he was far from his best & didn't have the impact we've come accustomed to over recent seasons. Not sure if they were rushed back in when not quite right out of desperation to ease what looked a bit of a slump from Melbourne, or complacency with the idea that "they'll be right" even if they weren't
I've been a bit off the Dees in recent times, tipping Geelong and Bulldogs against them. I think overall they're contenders but the issues will not melt away easily.
However I think they'll bounce back tonight with a gritty win. Melbourne's issue around the forward line doesn't become such an issue when their opposition lack scoring power. Freo have question marks at the moment as well.
However I think they'll bounce back tonight with a gritty win. Melbourne's issue around the forward line doesn't become such an issue when their opposition lack scoring power. Freo have question marks at the moment as well.
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