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Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2022, part II

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You could be right, but also I see Carlton as the team that will sneak up on the comp. They are slowly getting all their stars back, and they have that youthful energy and nothing to lose. So maybe a Carlton Collingwood GF

Sydney will go deeper.
They have a brilliant midfield and more importantly, have a terrific defense that isn't reliant on any one individual like Cartlon are with Weitering.
Carlton's got better key forwards but Papley, Heeney, Hayward are the best small forwards in the comp. Add in Franklin & Reid, they will expose Geelong at the MCG.

I'd actually prefer to play them at SCG as I reckon we can lock it down a bit better up there.
 
Sydney will go deeper.
They have a brilliant midfield and more importantly, have a terrific defense that isn't reliant on any one individual like Cartlon are with Weitering.
Carlton's got better key forwards but Papley, Heeney, Hayward are the best small forwards in the comp. Add in Franklin & Reid, they will expose Geelong at the MCG.

I'd actually prefer to play them at SCG as I reckon we can lock it down a bit better up there.
Is their defence that great?

They concede more than Geelong, Melbourne, Fremantle and Port (only 7 points less than St Kilda in fact).

The McCartin brothers are having decent years but are not elite. Lloyd and Rampe still go alright but are a level below what they contributed earlier. McInerney is playing well, his best year.

Their small forwards might have the edge but Franklin and Reid are no match for Hawkins and Cameron.

Midfields would be fairly well matched.

I rate Sydney, but I think their best is a step below Geelong or Melbourne's. I also think Geelong's ball movement is vastly more suited to the MCG than SCG in its current state.
 
Is their defence that great?

They concede more than Geelong, Melbourne, Fremantle and Port (only 7 points less than St Kilda in fact).

The McCartin brothers are having decent years but are not elite. Lloyd and Rampe still go alright but are a level below what they contributed earlier. McInerney is playing well, his best year.

Their small forwards might have the edge but Franklin and Reid are no match for Hawkins and Cameron.

Midfields would be fairly well matched.

I rate Sydney, but I think their best is a step below Geelong or Melbourne's. I also think Geelong's ball movement is vastly more suited to the MCG than SCG in its current state.

I didn't say their defense was great. It's a terrific back six. It has more creativity than what Geelong has. Guys who can run and carry and create up the field.
I don't think they have been as consistent as Geelong but if it's a do or die scenario, they have the edge due to their upside primarily because of the quality of their youth.

They are one of only a few teams who an elite tagger and that will be massive in September. Mills to blanket Guthrie would be pivotal in a final.

They are probably a year away from truly contending but they've shown enough already. Warner is in brownlow medal form. No one saw that coming.
 
Sydney will go deeper.
They have a brilliant midfield and more importantly, have a terrific defense that isn't reliant on any one individual like Cartlon are with Weitering.
Carlton's got better key forwards but Papley, Heeney, Hayward are the best small forwards in the comp. Add in Franklin & Reid, they will expose Geelong at the MCG.

I'd actually prefer to play them at SCG as I reckon we can lock it down a bit better up there.
I think Sydney is just about the scariest for me. They have the habit of getting up for Geelong. They have good onfield leadership and talent. They won't be too awed by the occasion.
It will tough for sure.
 
I think Sydney is just about the scariest for me. They have the habit of getting up for Geelong. They have good onfield leadership and talent. They won't be too awed by the occasion.
It will tough for sure.

Brisbane be good to get at the G.
Fremantle too. They have a lot of inexperience and are very inconsistent away from Perth. Only concern would be their ruck stocks. Darcy has not been as dominant but in another months time, he may be back to his best. Lobb & Darcy would monster us.
 

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Vdubs.

I love ya mate.

Brothers in Christ and all.

But mate; go for a walk. ;)
I will soon, but that was not a serious GF prediction.
IMPOSSIBLE right now to say, but I would not have a lot of confidence in seeing Demons missing out.
And dark horse- Carlton.'
Would love to say us, but just can't- not yet.
 
I will soon, but that was not a serious GF prediction.
IMPOSSIBLE right now to say, but I would not have a lot of confidence in seeing Demons missing out.
And dark horse- Carlton.'
Would love to say us, but just can't- not yet.
I figure (and hope) you'll be up and about here with a strong sense we can make the GF about five minutes after our PF concludes.

And that's absolutely fine with me, Dubs. You're a really astute judge of the game, with a consistent (and stated) predisposition to see our failings and every other side's strengths. I personally have no worries at all with that.

When I will start to worry is if you jump on here and state with any confidence that we're GF-bound before the third Sunday in September rolls around. A statement that bold (and that far out of character) would be hugely concerning for me.
 
I figure (and hope) you'll be up and about here with a strong sense we can make the GF about five minutes after our PF concludes.

And that's absolutely fine with me, Dubs. You're a really astute judge of the game, with a consistent (and stated) predisposition to see our failings and every other side's strengths. I personally have no worries at all with that.

When I will start to worry is if you jump on here and state with any confidence that we're GF-bound before the third Sunday in September rolls around. A statement that bold (and that far out of character) would be hugely concerning for me.
Thank you.
It seems to me the closer we are to favouritism- 2022, 2020, 2011, 2009, 2008, the more nervous I am.
2007, like most, I thought we were clearly the best, and out of character, I prebooked a family and friends night at our favourite Japanese restaurant in Mt Waverley (Shira Nui) for GF night in preparation. This I booked near the end of July!!
I have not done that since, although our oldest daughter booked it in 08. I cancelled it at half-time!
 
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Thank you.
It seems to me the closer we are to favouritism- 2022, 2020, 2011, 2009, 2008, the more nervous I am.
2007, like most, I thought we were clearly the best, and out of character, I prebooked a family and friends night at our favourite Japanese restaurant in Mt Waverley (Shira Nui) for GF night in preparation. This I booked near the end of July!!
I have not done that since, although our oldest daughter booked it in 08. I cancelled it at half-time!
2008 rattled you mate. You need to take Queen Elsas advice and let it go. Or do what I do and internalise it into a rage that you let out at inappropriate times
 
2008 rattled you mate. You need to take Queen Elsas advice and let it go. Or do what I do and internalise it into a rage that you let out at inappropriate times
or do what i do and bottle it and take it out on unsuspecting negative posters who troll..... wait... is this mic on?

GO Catters
 
2008 rattled you mate. You need to take Queen Elsas advice and let it go. Or do what I do and internalise it into a rage that you let out at inappropriate times
nothing will ever come close to the 08 result and anguish
Outright best team all year.
Losing to HAWTHORN
On my birthday.
Life goes on, and we have achieved plenty.
It's just me getting older and intolerant.
 

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nothing will ever come close to the 08 result and anguish
Outright best team all year.
Losing to HAWTHORN
On my birthday.
Life goes on, and we have achieved plenty.
It's just me getting older and intolerant.

We were on a family holiday in NZ - found a pub in Queenstown with a big screen , got there early with great expectation ........at least the beer was cold :(Almost as disappointing as 1995.....
Thanks goodness for 2007,2009 & 2011
 
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