Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2023, part I

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

You could apply that logic to a whole range of funding grants/projects

I wasn't stating an opinion about it. Just reporting on what I have been seeing. In all honesty, I couldn't give a flying fig if they build a new stadium or not.

 

[PzBlinky]

Hawkins will go til he is about 47. And every 8 years he will start a season slow due to an offseason injury, and then the media will say "is this the year" before he kicks 50 for the season, has 46 assists, and helps Jager Mooney kick his 100 for the 3rd season in a row. Can't wait for our 2034 premiership team to have father sons like Ottens, Hocking, Mensch, Bartel, Enright, Chapman, Johnson, Mooney and Hawkins.

Well, can't argue with you. To quote The Mandalorian - this is the way.

 

[PzBlinky]

Sounds familiar

As investment funds are fond of saying, past performance is no guarantee of future returns. I certainly hope that's true with the Hawks.

And while we've got good people in charge right now, I'm hoping when the slump comes - and it will sooner or later - that we'll have navigated that little period.

 

[cats_09]

I just wanna know what we are gonna have to give up to the Tassie expansion team.

And I know it will be considerable. We lost GAJ to GC and Josh Hunt to GWS!!!

GO Catters

JK - the first Tasmanian player to ask to "go home"

 

[And_ROOS]

I just wanna know what we are gonna have to give up to the Tassie expansion team.

And I know it will be considerable. We lost GAJ to GC and Josh Hunt to GWS!!!

GO Catters

Losing GAJ hurt in the short term, but in the end he came back to help us get to the GF and GCS have now become a feeder club to us.

 

[Partridge]

And despite what Sicily said, Tassie has plenty going for it as a place to live too. Property values have escalated accordingly.

It might be definitely quieter than Sydney or Melbourne, but so is Adelaide, and so is Geelong. On the money that even moderate footballers now make, anywhere is a good place to live.

 

[JohnZ]

Hobart's new stadium doesn't need a roof (Hobart is just as cold as Geelong in the dead of winter), it just needs to be big enough to be viable. 30k seats near the City is all they need (not the proposed 20k). Also don't understand why the tassie team needs to play outside of Hobart or be called anything but Hobart. Firstly it blocks any unlikely team up north from entering the comp in the future, secondly not a fan of generic names like GWS, West Coast, Western Bulldogs instead of what they should be: Blacktown, Perth and Footscray. Give the team a proper base and let it grow organically.

 

[cats_09]

No TDK for Carlton

 

[cats_09]

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Let’s hope they don’t hold a lead against us this weekend…….
May have egg on your face.

 

[And_ROOS]

GWS right now:

 

[And_ROOS]

Let’s hope they don’t hold a lead against us this weekend…….

They get the first score of the game, a rushed behind, before we kick the next 13 goals straight.

 

[cats_09]

GWS right now:

I did have a cheeky look to see who was sitting in 12th

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

They get the first score of the game, a rushed behind, before we kick the next 13 goals straight.

Let’s hope so.

 

[Strange Cat]

I wasn't stating an opinion about it. Just reporting on what I have been seeing. In all honesty, I couldn't give a flying fig if they build a new stadium or not.

Don’t worry I wasn’t having a go at you just making my own statement

 

[winty]

The Pill!!!

 

[Strange Cat]

The Pill!!!

Oh great another shit AFL video game

 

[And_ROOS]

Oh great another s**t AFL video game

Made by new people, so hopefully not as trash as the others have been.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

The Pill!!!

I wonder why no Gaz?

 

[Strange Cat]

Made by new people, so hopefully not as trash as the others have been.

No red ant? Might not be who I’m thinking of for the last one

 

[winty]

I wonder why no Gaz?

Maybe he didn't want to be included.

 

[Strange Cat]

I wonder why no Gaz?

Because that’s cheating

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Because that’s cheating

Would be amazing if snr was in it.

 

[Strange Cat]

Would be amazing if snr was in it.

Hawkins , JC , SNR and SJ in my dream forwardline in the game if it’s any good …the rest of team would be hard to pick tho

Might write one up later actually

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Worse than the GC is tanking? Worse than GWS? Both those places are leaking quality players but eventually they become embedded clubs and after a few rebrands and they won't be any worse off.

People forget just how bad the Sydney and Brisbane expansions initially were, and now we absolutely couldn't have a competition without them.

Its not like Tasmania doesn't have a footballing history after all.

As for your other points about the government putting money into this instead of homelessness or housing, I 100% agree with you, but this money wouldn't put a dent in those two issues. They require significantly more money, and more importantly significant reforms in parliament. We are at the point where we need more houses built, we need to limit how many houses people can own, and we need to change the culture of viewing housing as an investment and more that its a human right and that everyone should have a roof over their head while still being able to afford to exist.

Living in Sydney - the Sydney Swans were extremely lucky- fortunate - one event massively saved them - changed their fortunes in a huge way

And that was the Super League war - so you had Packer backing and bankrolling the NRL Clubs and Murdoch doing exactly the same for the Super League Clubs - and those 2 hated each other - going right back to their school days

Once they booted out South Sydney from the competition - basically a foundation traditional club - who in the past - well back - had won quite a few premierships - that changed the landscape dramatically for the Sydney Swans

Prior to that the Swans were totally irrelevant in Sydney - the only time they became relevant re the media - if a coach got sacked - or there was talk that they were going to fold - and how dire it was - there was talk that they were going to change the colour of their jumber to the sky blue of the NSW State of Origin rugby league team- to make them look like an actual Sydney side - rather than some relocated Melbourne mob

At that point i was going to some of their games at the SCG just to see some AFL - and the average crowd was about 9k - so that was great for me - i could get a park in the SCG car park - plenty of leg room in the seats - because there was hardly any one their

But once they kicked South Sydney out - it basically changed overnight - i can remember i went to a Syd v Geel game at the SCG - Ayres was still coach -thus probably 98 or 99 - Geel were no good at all - Stoneham was on his last legs playing FB on Lockett . But the crowd - it was something like 48000 a ground record - and listening how some of them were talking - i reckon there were 15000 rugby league supporters their that day - they were that pisssed off with what had happened - that they at that point were totally utterly finished with Rugby League i can tell you

Dont kidd yourself - that Rugby League War - saved the Swans - and made the Swans in Sydney