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Marcus North Australian Test Captain

Cricinfo, 4th November,
North rejects speculation over Test captaincy


Marcus North has rejected speculation that he may be in line to be Australia's next Test captain. There have been suggestions in the Australian media of a rift in the national team over Michael Clarke's limited-overs captaincy, and position as next in line for the leadership role behind current incumbent Ricky Ponting......
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http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/485409.html





Nearly fell off my chair when I read this late last night. Seriously, Marcus North the guy that most of us want out of the team, is being rumoured as being the next test captain, however the rumours are denied.

I think this just furthers shows how safe he is in the team and that we will be picked for all 5 ashes tests :(. England must be loving it, unless he does something drastic to prove me wrong.

All a rumoured team rift before the Ashes is a great thing......
 
Haha, The Dos, what a legend.

That's what I think Clarke's problem is, he does seem to have a holier-than-thou attitude.

I've said before, I think the making of Ricky Ponting was the shit he got himself into as a young player; he learnt how fleeting it all is and how quickly you could lose it forever, and he realised that being a freakish talent isn't going to be enough.

Clarke has (to his credit, I guess) never had to deal with too much controversy or bullshit, and I think it shows.

Ricky, even if you don't like him, you'd follow him - Clarke, I wouldn't.

And Siddle ahead of Dougy?

FMD.
 

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mattymac said:
the poms will have a massive hard on if we front up with siddle and johnson
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I follow Michael Vaughan on Twitter and he seems to think if Siddle is fit he will trouble the Poms. I laughed and called him a pommy ****.
 
Siddle in form and phyiscally fit is a bit of an enigma - once the tail is up he starts nicking the 150 mark and gets the ball to move around, totally different look about him when it happens. See: Boxing Day test against the Saffers in 2008. Warne made the call that he would be the best bowler in the world within 2 years following that performance. Injury put pay to a crucial summer of development for him though.

Personally my thoughts on him are mixed. He's an unusual cricketer - he'll spend half the day throwing them down with the pace hovering in the high 130s, then something; god knows what; is set off in that skull of his and he produces this outrageously good 150kph fare to rip through a few. If we could bottle that he'd be a world beater, but he's produced it only in fits and spurts. And therein lay the comparisons to Johnson.
 
Clarke has some batting talent even if he isn't a leaders ass. performed better than I thought he would, I thought low to mid 40s, and now looking at high 40s career average.

North can't bat or bowl, and how have WA been going in the various domestic competitions...

Might be a really nice guy, but good ordinary batsman, and average leader.

looking at leadership, katich and white stand out as the FC leaders (Its a burn saying katich but there you go...)
 
NMFC 1811 said:
Clarke folds under pressure most times. But yeah, let's make him Captain.

The truth is we don't have anyone else.
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LOL yeah because that is true, you just don't like or rate Clarke so you would never want him to be captain.
 

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bloodstainedangel5 said:
I'm taking it Watson doesn't have any captaincy skills? Because he's perfect in every other respect. He's an allrounder, so he's always involved. He bleeds for his country (to the point that he can come off as a douchebag when things go right). He's a slips fielder, so he's close to the action. He speaks well. He's recognisable. And right now, he's our best player.
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I don't like it. As you say, he's already carrying the team in so many ways that I think it would be tantamount to England giving Flintoff the job. Let's face it - whoever takes over is going to be under a shedload of pressure, because in all likelihood things are going to get worse before they get better. Watson's the one person in the team who's working pretty much perfectly, I'd rather not mess with him too much.

Someone mentioned Haddin. I know he comes off as a flog, but outside of Katich (who doesn't seem like he'll be in the team long enough to take over) he honestly seems like the best option - mentally sound, experienced, hard-nosed and determined. My only concern is that Paine is making his position in the side look less than safe right now.

Really, we're looking for the least worst candidate here. There is nobody with the right combination of cricketing ability, age, intelligence and experience in the side right now to make a good captain.

Which is why even though I don't like Ponting's captaincy I want him to stay in the side whilst he's still averaging over 40 on a month-to-month basis. Renew the rest of the side, demote him down the order if you like, but we really need him leading the team for the foreseeable future.
 
Bucking Beads said:
LOL yeah because that is true, you just don't like or rate Clarke so you would never want him to be captain.
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Correct, i do not like or rate Clarke. He has not been able to elevate his batting to the place where it needs to be. He crumbles when he needs to fight out an innings.

But unless someone stands up in the next few months to a year, i will be stuck watching this clown skippering the Country.
 
NMFC 1811 said:
Correct, i do not like or rate Clarke. He has not been able to elevate his batting to the place where it needs to be. He crumbles when he needs to fight out an innings.

But unless someone stands up in the next few months to a year, i will be stuck watching this clown skippering the Country.
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Do you watch cricket?? Clarke averages high 40's and has saved our bacon on many occasions... Lords test in the ashes just to name 1. He was also one of the few batsmen that turned against the Saffers 2 years ago. You wouldn't know that because your head is so far up your A$$.
 

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Bucking Beads said:
Do you watch cricket?? Clarke averages high 40's and has saved our bacon on many occasions... Lords test in the ashes just to name 1. He was also one of the few batsmen that turned against the Saffers 2 years ago. You wouldn't know that because your head is so far up your A$$.
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Relax Joycey.
 
This is a ridiculous comparision, there is NO chance in hell that the selectors will leave Clarke out of the 11 for Brisbane. However, North is on very shaky ground against the likes of Steve Smith etc.
 
pogix said:
This is a ridiculous comparision, there is NO chance in hell that the selectors will leave Clarke out of the 11 for Brisbane. However, North is on very shaky ground against the likes of Steve Smith etc.
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And Smith is on shakey ground against the vics :D
 
North shouldn't even be in the side.


No one can captain Australia well because we keep selecting spud bowlers like Johnson who you can set fields for and can't bowl to plans.
 

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