Not again, McDermott.

[kirky]

I know I shouldn't things get to me, but this blokes columns get right up my nose. He is at it again today - I don't know but the recruitment of McGuinness, Mickan, Rhode and Williams to me ain't that grand. Still, time will tell. I wouldn't have thought that Stewart would have left Port and come to Adelaide coz he thought it was a basket case.

And another thing, has anyone noticed how Port's list has a significant no who are or will be 30 this year (Bishop, Primus, Francou, James, Kingsley, Wanganeen, Montgomery and Wakelin - a fair swag of their backline) and yet no mention of it as an ageing list as we have had to put up for the past couple of years.

 

[outback jack]

they're aging a bit, but they've got heaps of good youngsters coming through though. Pretty much the opposite to our list. Port will be up there for a few more years u'd think and they have already wasted three years, so their list strength is so much better than ours. Its true though McDermott seems to jump on the crows every chance he gets, he was even going on how we should have gone for ottens, lucky that didnt happen..........

 

[Sheeds]

Am I aware that the Power have some players over the age of 30? Yes im well aware.

Im also aware the club has planned brilliantly, drafted and traded very soundly and have quality youngsters to come into the side when need be. People are well aware of guys like Damon White but youngsters like Symes will be very capable, someone like this does not get much of a mention. In the years to come Pettigrew, Salopek, Ebert, Surjan etc etc there is quality all the way through the squad. Obviously at some stage there will be a rebuilding phase, it will not involve us having to drop dramatically down the premiership ladder.

 

[macca23]

I know I shouldn't things get to me, but this blokes columns get right up my nose. He is at it again today - I don't know but the recruitment of McGuinness, Mickan, Rhode and Williams to me ain't that grand. Still, time will tell. I wouldn't have thought that Stewart would have left Port and come to Adelaide coz he thought it was a basket case.

I thought McDemott's article today in the Sunday Mail demonstrated where he really sits in the football world.

He states very definitely that Port have improved their football department significantly with the appointment of McGuinness (failed SANFL coach, never coached at AFL level, certain personal and moral failings) Stephen Williams (never coached at AFL level) Mark Mickan (non-required AFC asst coach) and Peter Rhode (disastrous AFL coach). In fact he goes as far as to describe this as being a huge coup!!

WTF??

Then we get on to the newbies for the Crows coaching panel. While he definitely doesn't put them down, his comments there are that it will be interesting, and that they need to get it right because it's a big job. We know that, but collectively I wouldn't swap them for the load of old cobblers that Port have appointed, with the exception of Stephen Williams

IMO Port have gone backwards with their panel collectively, while we have gone forwards, having got rid of dead wood like the one that went to Port.

In addition, on the one hand for Port he includes Peter Rhode, who is not a football coach, but fails to mention Alan Stewart who we now have as a development officer.

Poor sick McDermott. Will he ever get over his sacking from the AFC by Blighty??

 

[Jerome]

Poor sick McDermott. Will he ever get over his sacking from the AFC by Blighty??

Nah. He's gonna be bitter and twisted for a while yet.

I think his issues with AFC started before Blighty tho. 10 years ago Shaw came in and asked him to stand down as Captain. I think that's where the problems start.

I recall he was'nt too happy about it...cant blame him tho. I mean if I had lead the charge to sack the previous coach, told the club who they should select as the new coach and the first thing the new bloke did was sack me as Captain, I'd be pretty dark too.

 

[Fergus]

I thought McDemott's article today in the Sunday Mail demonstrated where he really sits in the football world.

He states very definitely that Port have improved their football department significantly with the appointment of McGuinness (failed SANFL coach, never coached at AFL level, certain personal and moral failings) Stephen Williams (never coached at AFL level) Mark Mickan (non-required AFC asst coach) and Peter Rhode (disastrous AFL coach). In fact he goes as far as to describe this as being a huge coup!!

WTF??

IMO Port have gone backwards with their panel collectively, while we have gone forwards, having got rid of dead wood like the one that went to Port.

In addition, on the one hand for Port he includes Peter Rhode, who is not a football coach, but fails to mention Alan Stewart who we now have as a development officer.

Poor sick McDermott. Will he ever get over his sacking from the AFC by Blighty??

If I remember correctly he also said that Port undoubtedly now has the best coaching panel in the AFL. That's an outrageous statement and one that he isn't qualified to make. He would have no idea of the effectiveness of other coaching panels, and the new Port one has no runs on the board yet.

You could feed entire nations with the chip on his shoulder

 

[maccas_no1]

I thought McDemott's article today in the Sunday Mail demonstrated where he really sits in the football world.

He states very definitely that Port have improved their football department significantly with the appointment of McGuinness (failed SANFL coach, never coached at AFL level, certain personal and moral failings) Stephen Williams (never coached at AFL level) Mark Mickan (non-required AFC asst coach) and Peter Rhode (disastrous AFL coach). In fact he goes as far as to describe this as being a huge coup!!

WTF??


Poor sick McDermott. Will he ever get over his sacking from the AFC by Blighty??

The 'chip' on his shoulder just continues to get bigger, he is now in the same basket as Rucci a downright egocentric moron.

IMO those are possibly the worst assistant coaches going around and Port have them all, if i was a Port supporter/member I would be very disapointed

 

[maccas_no1]

If I remember correctly he also said that Port undoubtedly now has the best coaching panel in the AFL. That's an outrageous statement and one that he isn't qualified to make.

That is downright crap, they would now have the worst, got wingeing and bigmouth Senoir Coach and a bunch of hacks no other club wants.

 

[noddy]

I think his issues with AFC started before Blighty tho. 10 years ago Shaw came in and asked him to stand down as Captain. I think that's where the problems start.

Well that's something i was never aware of & that's all the more reason i guess for his continuing anti Crow propaganda.

In any case don't be at all surprised to find that McDermott becomes the latest addition to Mark Williams coaching panel this time next year.

As for the Port Powers present coaching panel well if they are successful this year then McDermott can feel justified some what to his statements of yesterday but as i have said on the Paps board if they happen to go belly-up in 05 well their supporters have 2 fine targets to lay the blame on.

As for all the super recruits/replacements the paps are supposed to have in their back pocket ready & primed to take over from their "well known" aging list well once again as with all clubs time will tell if any at all of the young guns will be good enough to take over from those that will fall away due to age or recurring injury problems.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

And another thing, has anyone noticed how Port's list has a significant no who are or will be 30 this year (Bishop, Primus, Francou, James, Kingsley, Wanganeen, Montgomery and Wakelin - a fair swag of their backline) and yet no mention of it as an ageing list as we have had to put up for the past couple of years.

When Brisbane went back to back in 2002 they only had 6 players on their list over 28, Port have 13. Mind you if the likes of Wakelin, Wanganeen, Monty, Bishop etc etc do decide to retire they have "promising youngsters" in Pettigrew ( 2 games ), Symes ( 1), Chaplin ( 1 ), White ( 6 ) who will do the job just as effectively - laughable.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I thought McDemott's article today in the Sunday Mail demonstrated where he really sits in the football world.

He states very definitely that Port have improved their football department significantly with the appointment of McGuinness (failed SANFL coach, never coached at AFL level, certain personal and moral failings) Stephen Williams (never coached at AFL level) Mark Mickan (non-required AFC asst coach) and Peter Rhode (disastrous AFL coach). In fact he goes as far as to describe this as being a huge coup!!

WTF??

Then we get on to the newbies for the Crows coaching panel. While he definitely doesn't put them down, his comments there are that it will be interesting, and that they need to get it right because it's a big job. We know that, but collectively I wouldn't swap them for the load of old cobblers that Port have appointed, with the exception of Stephen Williams

IMO Port have gone backwards with their panel collectively, while we have gone forwards, having got rid of dead wood like the one that went to Port.

In addition, on the one hand for Port he includes Peter Rhode, who is not a football coach, but fails to mention Alan Stewart who we now have as a development officer.

Poor sick McDermott. Will he ever get over his sacking from the AFC by Blighty??

Spot on Macca. Most astute footy people would say that an off field team of McGui, Micka, Rhode, S Williams is looking very ordinary but not MCDermott. I think he is losing credibility fast. His "we should trade high draft picks for an overrated Brad Ottens" statement shows he knows abosulelty nothing when it comes to steering a club out of troubled waters.

 

[Sheeds]

You really continue to demonstrate why you are a clown SpringChoke. It is all well an easy to say these players have not played a lot of AFL football but we groom them through the SANFL, they get a taste of AFL footy and they will make a smooth transition into AFL footy when the time is right. Unlike the Crows we do not need to throw our youngsters into the deep end because we have a lack of players up to the level.

We will get another year out of Wakelin, yes I forogt we have Thurstans waiting in the wings, he has only played 1 AFL game hasnt he. Wanganeen will play for another 2, Bish will play for another 2, Monty will go at the end of the year. We have a variety of candidates to come in for a Monty type role, whether it be one of our quality youngsters or someone like Poulton, who in case you need the statistics has also played more than 1 AFL game. But you are the expert, who am I to want our squad when the Corws have talent to burn with guys like Bock who will lead the revivial.

Maybe your also unaware of how AFL squads work, but let me tell you that fortunately you are allowed more than 13 players. Not all our players are over 30 but if you want to think Port are in for a mjor slide then whatever makes you feel happy. Feel free to join us in reality.

 

[Rach]

I know I shouldn't things get to me, but this blokes columns get right up my nose.

I remember quite a few weeks ago now, he wrote in his column something like "buckle up Crows fans, because 2005 is going to be a bumpy ride ..." I haven't read anything he's written since.

He is one sour grape.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Am I aware that the Power have some players over the age of 30? Yes im well aware.

Im also aware the club has planned brilliantly, drafted and traded very soundly and have quality youngsters to come into the side when need be. People are well aware of guys like Damon White but youngsters like Symes will be very capable, someone like this does not get much of a mention. In the years to come Pettigrew, Salopek, Ebert, Surjan etc etc there is quality all the way through the squad. Obviously at some stage there will be a rebuilding phase, it will not involve us having to drop dramatically down the premiership ladder.

If Port finish the year as minor premiers then I expect them to go back to back. If they don't, their ageing legs ( oldest list in the AFL ) will work against them if they have to travel come finals. In 2006-2007 they will finish between 4-8 as their old guard in Wangas, Wakelin, Bishop, James, Francou, Primus, Wilson, Lade, Kingsley, Monty are being retired off. Then in 2008 onwards a bottom out ( not bottom 3 ) is not out of the question as the likes of Tredrea, Burgoyne etc enter their footballing twilight years.

 

[Crowked]

C S McDERMOTT

276 games and 184 goals for Glenelg, 1984 - 1990
117 games and 31 goals for Adelaide, 1991 - 1996
Captain of Glenelg 2 years and Adelaide, 4 years
Member of premiership sides for Glenelg, 1985, 1986
Club Champion Glenelg, 3 times and Adelaide, 1992
Played 15 games for South Australia, captain 7 years
Fos Williams Medallist 1987
Simpson Medallist 1987
All Australian 1986, 1987, 1992
Coached North Adelaide, 1997 – 2000


Chip Shoulder McDermott

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

You really continue to demonstrate why you are a clown SpringChoke. It is all well an easy to say these players have not played a lot of AFL football but we groom them through the SANFL, they get a taste of AFL footy and they will make a smooth transition into AFL footy when the time is right. Unlike the Crows we do not need to throw our youngsters into the deep end because we have a lack of players up to the level.

We will get another year out of Wakelin, yes I forogt we have Thurstans waiting in the wings, he has only played 1 AFL game hasnt he. Wanganeen will play for another 2, Bish will play for another 2, Monty will go at the end of the year. We have a variety of candidates to come in for a Monty type role, whether it be one of our quality youngsters or someone like Poulton, who in case you need the statistics has also played more than 1 AFL game. But you are the expert, who am I to want our squad when the Corws have talent to burn with guys like Bock who will lead the revivial.

Maybe your also unaware of how AFL squads work, but let me tell you that fortunately you are allowed more than 13 players. Not all our players are over 30 but if you want to think Port are in for a mjor slide then whatever makes you feel happy. Feel free to join us in reality.

Why am I a clown, is it becuase I don't accept your biased dribble as gospel? At the moment you don't throw your youngsters to the wolves but if you continue to pesist with the old guard past 2005, then that day will come and sooner than you think.

I would like to know how players such as Peel, Gilham, Surjan, Pettigrew, Symes, Chaplin etc will make a smooth transition into AFL footy based on good ( not great ) SANFL form. I can assure Skipworth, Shirley, Ladhams, S Stevens have all played pretty descent SANFL footy at one time or another.

If you have adequate replacements for Wakelin, Bishop, Wangas then why aren't they being played? Surely, a youngester of the same ability should be picked before an over 30 yo player. When the PAFC players I have mentioned have played at least 10 games and have shown something then i'll eat my words but until then I will continue to follow the historical AFL trend that an ageing team spells trouble.

BTW fool, who on here is saying Bock will lead an AFC revival?

 

[Riddler]

I lost respect for McDermott when he lost "Greed" at The Planet to Church

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Where is Rucci when you need him...

 

[JP83]

This is going to be fun season.
You crows supporters live in a dream world.
Mickan has come in to replace pittman. Pittman did a good job, however he was only at the club part time and i would have thought that a lot of what he knew was as a result of what he was taught by mickan.
Mcguinness has replaced clarkson. No doubt clarkson is the better coach, however his role obviously wasnt that important as he was not required for the finals campaign and not replaced and wew still won the flag.
Stephen Williams will do an excellent job without doubt.
Its also important to remember that Phill walsh and Dean Bailey are still there and the Premiership coach Mark Williams is still there.
Now for a look at the who's who of coaching assistants that have made their way to the crows.
Noble-Has shown his ability with the bays.
Hamilton-Would have learnt a lot from laidley.
Don Pyke-good appointment.
Neil Craig- how many of you wanted him as coach??
At the end of the day a coaching panel at the crows is pretty pointless because we all know that the only man who's opinion matters is John Reid's.

 

[maccas_no1]

This is going to be fun season.
You crows supporters live in a dream world.
Mickan has come in to replace pittman. Pittman did a good job, however he was only at the club part time and i would have thought that a lot of what he knew was as a result of what he was taught by mickan.
Mcguinness has replaced clarkson. No doubt clarkson is the better coach, however his role obviously wasnt that important as he was not required for the finals campaign and not replaced and wew still won the flag.
Stephen Williams will do an excellent job without doubt.
Its also important to remember that Phill walsh and Dean Bailey are still there and the Premiership coach Mark Williams is still there.
Now for a look at the who's who of coaching assistants that have made their way to the crows.
Noble-Has shown his ability with the bays.
Hamilton-Would have learnt a lot from laidley.
Don Pyke-good appointment.
Neil Craig- how many of you wanted him as coach??
At the end of the day a coaching panel at the crows is pretty pointless because we all know that the only man who's opinion matters is John Reid's.

Mickan was no good at the AFC why would he be any better at Port

Seem you forgot to mention the appointment of 'failed' AFL coach Peter Rhode

Gee need I continue?????

 

[kirky]

In addition, on the one hand for Port he includes Peter Rhode, who is not a football coach, but fails to mention Alan Stewart who we now have as a development officer.

Thats the thing I can't understand, yes, we are dip in it if we have Alan Stewart as development coach!!! Ah, I don't think so.

Still, be interested to see how Port's so called next line of players go. They might say it ain't an issue now but believe me it will become one.

 

[kirky]

Where is Rucci when you need him...

Yeh, were is the loser????

 

[Stiffy_18]

Yeh, were is the loser????

Somewhere in Italy on his yearly holiday. Wouldn't mind if he stays there for good

 

[macca23]

.
Mcguinness has replaced clarkson. No doubt clarkson is the better coach, however his role obviously wasnt that important .........

Of course not!! That's why Hawthorn thought he was an outstanding candidate and he blew them away with his presentation.

McGuinness couldn't even blow up a balloon!!

You're well down in that department. Plus you've allowed the loser's mentality in Rhode into your club.

You're easily pleased if you think that these two are an improvement on their predecessors.

In spite of that you've still got the important ones in Choco and the players, so of course you'll still go well.

But how that fkwit McDermott could say that you've improved your group and call that a recruiting coup defies all logic.

 

[JP83]

Of course not!! That's why Hawthorn thought he was an outstanding candidate and he blew them away with his presentation.

QUOTE]
No doubt he was an outstanding candidate and im sure he will be an excellent coach, but if our finals performances and the structure of our forward line in those games, when clarkson wasnt there are anything to go by, then he will not be missed.

Why are you all so interested in what we're doing anyway? I thought you would all be getting carried away with the brains trust that you've managed to assemble.