Opinion Open draft, who do you take with pick #1

[JayJ20]

Grundy or Cripps. Tough choice.

 

[master bate]

If you're trying to get absolute value then it has to be someone under 25, ideally right at the start of their prime around 22.

Based on that and value to a side:

1. Harris Andrews
2. Bont
3. Cripps
4. Sicily
5. Charlie Curnow

Oliver, Kelly, McLuggage, Taranto, Tim Kelly, Heeney not far off and would certainly consider Grundy but I'd be worried after 5 great years he might just be a standard ruck.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

^^

I'd be very very tempted to go Hugh McLuggage - something very very special about this kid.

 

[SickQwon]

Jamie Cripps.

 

[Baird]

Tom Mitchell

 

[joop]

Cripps
Grundy
Cameron
Kelly
De Goey

Bont and cogs not far behind.

 

[FISTO]

James Parsons

 

[Madness101]

Fyfe or Cameron.

Since Buddy doesn't play much these days, they are both the biggest match winners in the game ATM.

Having a Lynch, Jack R and Cameron forward would be interesting. You would feel hard done by if you were the 3rd defender in your team.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Fyfe or Cameron.

Since Buddy doesn't play much these days, they are both the biggest match winners in the game ATM.

Having a Lynch, Jack R and Cameron forward would be interesting. You would feel hard done by if you were the 3rd defender in your team.

Why, you’d only be manning Lynch?

 

[demondavey]

Each to their own. I'd never leave Bont on the table for Grundy. I also think you are severely understating Whitfield. He's the best kick and decision maker in the game

Yeah I probably am due to the fact I haven’t seen him enough, which is symptomatic of a lot of decision making bias I guess.

 

[HairyO]

Grundy
Cameron
B Brown
Gawn
Cripps but only if Clarko reckons he can fix his disposals

 

[juss]

At what point do you discount a player's value due to age? Dustin Martin and Nat Fyfe are 28 and dominant. Do you take Jeremy Cameron who is two years younger but not as consistent over his career? Or Patrick Cripps who is 24 but not quite as good in the middle?

I reckon Taranto is a sneaky shout. Killing it for GWS and only 21. Sam Walsh another. Pick 1 last year and is the #1 ball winner for Carlton (Cripps has missed 2 games) in his first year, so teams have got a look at him at AFL level. Other than the obvious stars in their mid 20s (Cameron, Grundy, Cripps) I reckon these are the sort of players clubs would look at because of the longevity factor.

This is a good point, this is why Id be hesitant to take Grundy, 26 next year, does he really have more than 5 maybe 6 years at this form level? Of course Richmond would as he is what we need and we are contending, but you would think a rebuilding side should look to the 22 and under guns of the AFL.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Excluding Carlton players, have to be Grundy. 30 touches last weekend, regularly takes great marks and is a threat for goal too. Oh yeah almost forgot he'll give your midfield silver-service all day. Makes everyone better.

 

[Wallaby]

I think the Bont has the potential to take it up another notch. Cripps is a fantastic contested ball beast - and that's probably what he'll always be. I could see Bont also playing forward for a couple of years and kicking at least 50+ goals in each. (Which is what I thought Fyfe would become pre-broken leg).

To play a game NOW - Cripps. For the next 10 years, and see how things develop - Bont.

 

[Juddernaut08]

I think the Bont has the potential to take it up another notch. Cripps is a fantastic contested ball beast - and that's probably what he'll always be. I could see Bont also playing forward for a couple of years and kicking at least 50+ goals in each. (Which is what I thought Fyfe would become pre-broken leg).

To play a game NOW - Cripps. For the next 10 years, and see how things develop - Bont.

38 touches and 4 goals against a top 2 team. Limited? Foolish!

 

[GhostofJimJess]

1. Grundy
2. Fyfe
3. Gawn
4. Cripps
5. J Kelly

 

[ferrisb]

38 touches and 4 goals against a top 2 team. Limited? Foolish!

Calm down, Juddy.

Guy praised Cripps plenty, but said Bont was a better forward.....That's fair, given Bont has many more runs on the board on that front.

Food for thought... I'd take Cripps over Bont. But I'd take a 22 x Bonts over 22 x Crippseseses (as mentioned earlier).


Note: Cripps continues to add to his trick bag, which MAY see this narrowed/flipped in the coming years.

 

[Mordecai]

1. Oliver
2. J Kelly
3. Cripps
4. Walsh
5. Neale
6. Dangerfield
7. Taranto
8. Bontempelli
9. T Kelly
10. Grundy


This is with age, history at club and injury history all being considered.
Tom Mitchell is not there because of his injury.

Ball winners with potential to explode from the contest are what I've gone with mostly.

 

[Back One Out]

1. Tom Mitchell

(...Cripps, Bont, Fyfe, de Goey)

 

[RedBullRacing]

I think a lot of people forget to acknowledge that in an open draft if you were to go for Grundy or Gawn,

You would certainly miss out on. I would rather take one of those players

I'd go Cripps and stategically pick up a ruck with my fourth or fifth picks. I reckon its better to pick up Cripps and get Lycett, than to get say Grundy and Shiel or Shuey type player as my best mid.

Dangerfield
Cripps
Bont
Dusty
Whitfield
Coniglio
Fyfe.........

 

[Juddernaut08]

1. Oliver
2. J Kelly
3. Cripps
4. Walsh
5. Neale
6. Dangerfield
7. Taranto
8. Bontempelli
9. T Kelly
10. Grundy


This is with age, history at club and injury history all being considered.
Tom Mitchell is not there because of his injury.

Ball winners with potential to explode from the contest are what I've gone with mostly.

Look how many mids you've put up. And then you've got Grundy 10th. The plethora of elite midsi means they're less valuable. There is no-one else but Gawn who is comparable to Grundy. Both the Gs would go top 5

 

[Juddernaut08]

Wouldn't Essendon be crying out for a player like Ben Brown in an open draft, given how prospects like Daniher are only capable of VFL-level football?

If you're starting from scratch, Ben Brown wouldn't go in the first round. IMO

 

[Engimal v3]

If you're starting from scratch, Ben Brown wouldn't go in the first round. IMO

Agreed, just ribbing Bunk. I think he'd go quicker than his actual draft though, given he wasn't picked at all in three of them!

 

[Juddernaut08]

Jamie Cripps.

Try to be original. Half this thread has already voted for him.

 

[KermitJagger]

Do you get them as they are now, or are you getting them as an 18 year old?

If it's as an 18 year old, Luke Hodge.

If it's right now, Brodie Grundy.

Hodge as an 18 year old because he's a generational leader, versatile enough to play anywhere and would set the standard from the start.

Grundy because he's an awesome combination of midfielder and ruckman, and probably the most unique prospect in the game at the moment considering his impact.

Bontempelli is a very very close second.