Our forward line

[crowsarethebest]

I see that someone started a thread about our backline so i thought i'd start a one about or forward line. We have been great this season so far with us kicking alot of goals. The only querie i have is that we lack a key forward that will win us a premiership. Also if you look at who kicked the goals against only 2 permanent forwards kicked goals in Welsh (2) and Perrie (4). We cannot rely on our midfield to kick goals!

 

[SBR_04]

Definately something we need and are working on fixing, We cannot rely on our midfield to continuelly run up the ground and kick these great goals... well i guess we can but it aint healthy lol.

Our boys up forward just have to be confidence in there kicking and ability of marking the ball, we don't have a lack of forwards as people say... they just lack form.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Our forward line is the most concerning area. We need a fit & firing Stevo. However, we must have even contributors, as we don't have a go-to gun like some other sides.

 

[outback jack]

perrie may be that forward he is getting better every wk. Welsh cant be our FF though, thats where we need to either get a gun like fev or keep rotating guys through like roo.

 

[Cap]

would Meeson help up forward this year ? he has proven that he can take a mark in the forward 50 ? maybe Craigy can try to get some new blood in the forward line ? it has worked in the backlines and midfield maybe its time to try something new up forward

 

[crowsarethebest]

would Meeson help up forward this year ? he has proven that he can take a mark in the forward 50 ? maybe Craigy can try to get some new blood in the forward line ? it has worked in the backlines and midfield maybe its time to try something new up forward

I heard he kicked somthing like 3 goals and 5 behinds last week in the seniors last week.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Our forward line has more holes than swiss cheese

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot. However, our key forward positions are as weak as ********. Sarge is a solid battler but if you are building a forward line around him you are in big trouble. He is by no means useless but he is a workhorse and not much more.

Welsh is a brilliant 3rd forward but he is not a FF. I feel that we deseprately need to either recruit or develop a couple of very good key forwards. Hopefully the likes of Watts and Hentschel develop into those players.

We also desperatly need a crumbing goal sneak.

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

 

[SBR_04]

With our forward, it seems they have there main teams in which they have confidence to perform against. I think that's the case with Welsh aswell, He definately has the capability to kick big scores but just doesn't believe in himself enough sometimes when he goes at the ball.

Anyway, so far so good...these are all things in which will get worked on throughout the year and hopefully our forwards will become more confident as it goes on.

 

[slappy]

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot.

exactly and if we develop/recruit a key forward that could get 60+ goals a year then we could have a serious tilt at a premiership. no doubt about it.

 

[slappy]

With our forward, it seems they have there main teams in which they have confidence to perform against. I think that's the case with Welsh aswell, He definately has the capability to kick big scores but just doesn't believe in himself enough sometimes when he goes at the ball.

i dont think its a question of belief, i think its more that welsh and perrie struggle on the very best defenders period. however they are still both really good players on their day.

 

[AlwaysCrows]

With a potent forward line imagine how many goals we would be kicking considering how much contribution our midfield already add to our goal count

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

exactly and if we develop/recruit a key forward that could get 60+ goals a year then we could have a serious tilt at a premiership. no doubt about it.

Deja vu 2002 - We need a lot more that a KPP forward before we consider ourselves a top 4 team. Some depth would be nice. Let's not forget at least 25% of our list are inconsistent afl footballers at best.

 

[RooDog]

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

I remember watching Thompson as a junior playing for Port when i use to go to games with my dad and hes been doing this since his junior days, they aint out his backsides he has done it too many times, the bloke has skill and im pumped to have him in our team.

Perrie is serviceable but if he keeps going and kicks 3-4 goals a game on average hes going to end up with 60-80 goals which is a fair effort from someone who is serviceable and as you said he is getting better. As Dermott said he is a confidence player and after the last 3 games i think his confidence would be on the way up for sure. Dont worry about the Sarge he will do a job for us this year.

 

[SBR_04]

Let's hope the Sarge can continuelly kick bags of 4 for us, would help ALOT!

On Thompson, you gotta love him aayy... pull those things out of ya backside any time Scotty

 

[macca23]

Our forward line has more holes than swiss cheese

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot. However, our key forward positions are as weak as ********. Sarge is a solid battler but if you are building a forward line around him you are in big trouble. He is by no means useless but he is a workhorse and not much more.

Welsh is a brilliant 3rd forward but he is not a FF. I feel that we deseprately need to either recruit or develop a couple of very good key forwards. Hopefully the likes of Watts and Hentschel develop into those players.

We also desperatly need a crumbing goal sneak.

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

We have one Stiffy.

They just won't play him there.

Brett Burton.

 

[iceman21]

We have one Stiffy.

They just won't play him there.

Brett Burton.

Perhaps they will now that Reilly & Mattner are doing o.k on the wings?

surely Burton has proved in the past that he is a more than capable forward,
How about the current group of youngsters? Will Fergus get another shot this Year?

 

[- PC -]

The only problem being is that BB cant be your go to forward and your crumber. He will fly for everything..but will he mark them all? Thats when you need a crumber..is Thompson that man? Or is Welsh the go to ground man if BB flies?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Our forward line has more holes than swiss cheese

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot. However, our key forward positions are as weak as ********. Sarge is a solid battler but if you are building a forward line around him you are in big trouble. He is by no means useless but he is a workhorse and not much more.

Welsh is a brilliant 3rd forward but he is not a FF. I feel that we deseprately need to either recruit or develop a couple of very good key forwards. Hopefully the likes of Watts and Hentschel develop into those players.

We also desperatly need a crumbing goal sneak.

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

The club has recruited these KPP we just have to be patient whilst they develop and come through the system.

Now the small crumbing forward is another thing - why are clubs so loathe to recruit them these days? Rodin, Eddie Betts - all taken late in drafts yet they have made such a positive impact to their teams forward line???
I just don't understand the reluctance ? - I understand they present lack of flexibility but IMO we should recruit one that CAN also go into the midfield as well.

 

[drakeyv2]

Our forward line has more holes than swiss cheese

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot. However, our key forward positions are as weak as ********. Sarge is a solid battler but if you are building a forward line around him you are in big trouble. He is by no means useless but he is a workhorse and not much more.

Welsh is a brilliant 3rd forward but he is not a FF. I feel that we deseprately need to either recruit or develop a couple of very good key forwards. Hopefully the likes of Watts and Hentschel develop into those players.

We also desperatly need a crumbing goal sneak.

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

Can't disagree with any of this.

I think it shows that we have to play Hentschel up forward as much as possible. We need his cool head & bit of class up there. His forward work will only improve with more experience.

 

[Cap]

The club has recruited these KPP we just have to be patient whilst they develop and come through the system.

Now the small crumbing forward is another thing - why are clubs so loathe to recruit them these days? Rodin, Eddie Betts - all taken late in drafts yet they have made such a positive impact to their teams forward line???
I just don't understand the reluctance ? - I understand they present lack of flexibility but IMO we should recruit one that CAN also go into the midfield as well.

I think the reluctance is due to the fact that most crumbing forwards have limited scope in what they can do, a lot of clubs try to move away from a player that can pretty much do nothing for a whole game and kick a few at the end of the game (ala Neon Leon - but i admit he has improved of late)

so crumbing forwards are generally resting midfileders instead of guy that runs around trying to kick screamers all game (like that ********er from freo)

 

[Cap]

Can't disagree with any of this.

I think it shows that we have to play Hentschel up forward as much as possible. We need his cool head & bit of class up there. His forward work will only improve with more experience.

I agree with this also Hentcshel needs to stay up forward if he is to develop he has already shown his footy brains up back, let him develop up forward, his is by far the best lead and thinker up forward we have (well apart from tommo almost the only guy that leads on a regular basis)

 

[Cove Cobra]

I agree.



He needs to develop up forward so he can learn the tricks of the trade in time to work with Pavlich in the forward lines when he comes home at the end of the year!!

 

[AdelaideFan]

I agree.



He needs to develop up forward so he can learn the tricks of the trade in time to work with Pavlich in the forward lines when he comes home at the end of the year!!

Wishful thinking.

I am sick of the crows trying to trade/recruit a mature forward line fix. Let me see who comes to mind. Adam Richardson, Daniel Schell, Ryan Fitzgerald, Wayne Carey. I am sure there are others feel free to remind me. All of these blokes were meant to be the answer but none proved to be anything but a band aid solution.

We need to develop key forwards ourselves. Through out a lot of these players coming and going one bloke has shone and that is Perrie. He may not be classy but he is hard working and his body seems to hold together well. stevens has also provided good service but unfortunately his body has let him down.

Late last year I was thinking Ottens could be our answer but I now believe we need to develop these players. From Watts, Hentschel, Gibson, Hinge, Meeson, Maric we need to start one of these blokes now developing into a star forward recruit.

 

[Mad Dog]

Our forward line has more holes than swiss cheese

We are doing very well to kick big scores because we get it in there a lot. However, our key forward positions are as weak as ********. Sarge is a solid battler but if you are building a forward line around him you are in big trouble. He is by no means useless but he is a workhorse and not much more.

Welsh is a brilliant 3rd forward but he is not a FF. I feel that we deseprately need to either recruit or develop a couple of very good key forwards. Hopefully the likes of Watts and Hentschel develop into those players.

We also desperatly need a crumbing goal sneak.

For now we have Thompson to kick goals out of his backside like he did against the swans

yep....I think in the absense of a gun or 2....we just need to keep plugging away with what we've got....hopefully Perrie and Welsh can contribute - but we will be heavily reliant on the midfielders kicking goals until either Kroogs, Gibbo, or Watts come on.........or we release the Meese...

 

[Mad Dog]

I agree.



He needs to develop up forward so he can learn the tricks of the trade in time to work with Pavlich in the forward lines when he comes home at the end of the year!!

Robert Walls had some interesting comments on "Mrs. Tredrea and Cornsey" last night about Pav at CHF against Richmond on the weekend...........doesn't work hard enough apparently....