Our sydneycentric Rodent PM at it again

[Cap]

By using misleading information during the lead up to elections is cheating, the children overboard affair is one example, he knew it was lies, but he still used it.

I dont agree that he went out to mislead the public, but the issue was a big one in the prevoius election, I think yes it was blown out of proportion but to say that he won that election due to the children over board is a bit rich, your basiacally saying that the voting public makes it mind up over one issue

if that was the case the labour would never lose with all the story telling they do with there policies

 

[butterflykiss]

That rodent was voted in for a record term by 51% of Australians with big swings to him in Victoria. Be proud of a man that will go down in history of a great Aussie and get over your hangups.

Im lucky to be one of the smart and lucky 49% that DIDNT vote for the lying little swine and proud of it.
I saw through the arrogant Sydney bastard(just like Kennett did) a long time ago pity the rest of the electorate are so misinformed -just like you.

 

[Cap]

Im lucky to be one of the smart and lucky 49% that DIDNT vote for the lying little swine and proud of it.
I saw through the arrogant Sydney bastard(just like Kennett did) a long time ago pity the rest of the electorate are so misinformed -just like you.

ah the joys on the informed voters (please don't miss the sarcasm)

this is why labor wont support non-compulsory voting

 

[MightyFighting]

Sydneycentric? I don't think anyone else in the country gives 2 sh*ts about Eureka either and it's certainly not something to celebrate so the PM is entirely justified IMO. It's just another one of those weird lionisations that Victorians give to something that's fairly shameful,

"Shameful"??? The captured miners were found innocent of treason by a court of law. Do you understand that? The only thing that's disgraceful were the actions of the colonial government.

 

[Bombers 2003]

and fair enough too. The Eureka renegades were a pack of trouble makers with all the common thuggery of Ned Kelly. No wonder they are lionised by the union movement. Also violently anti Chinese, something lefties tend to gloss over.

What would someone who lives in London know?.And yes anti-Chinese sentiment on Gold fields was quite common in the 19th century.I have never claimed to have said i agree with that sentiment,i DONT.

 

[Bombers 2003]

Sydneycentric? I don't think anyone else in the country gives 2 sh*ts about Eureka either and it's certainly not something to celebrate so the PM is entirely justified IMO. It's just another one of those weird lionisations that Victorians give to something that's fairly shameful, the other main example being that murderer & robber Ned Kelly.

Strange people those Victorians

At Least we can tell South from North,east or west.South Australia,what a ridiculous name for a state.

 

[medusala]

Going by that logic, we should stop celebrating Australia (invasion) Day as well & stop flying the Union Jack at Parliament house.

Invasion Day, what a joke. You want Germany to apologise for the Angles and Saxons invading Briton, the Teutonic knights invading Lithuania etc? Ditto Norway for the vikings? I am sure Lestat will apologise personally on behalf of the Caliphate for having invaded Andalusia.

Logic escapes you.

 

[medusala]

1. I thought you Tories would love the story about an uprising caused by an oppressive tax regime!
2. Read the John Moloney's Book "Eureka" published by MUP. They were anti- Chinese but were not alone in that: A cursory read of the first ten years of the Bulletin will confirm that
3. It would have saved us a lot of embarrasment if we had of thrown off the English Monarchy then - God now we are stuck with them!

The Libs would never send anyone to a celebration like this - the uprising signifies independent thinking, throwing off colonial oppressors and republicanism - Howard's pet hates.

So you think a true tory would be happy to throw off the English monarchy then?

The queen is hardly an embarrassment. Name the last time she interfered or even commented on Australian politics.

 

[pazza]

Would at bare minimum seem disrespectful, given that the Eureka Stockade was actually the birth of Australian Democracy and that Peter Lalor is honoured as the father of our democracy.

Only sending the Governor-General and a "representative" of the Government is the height of disrespect.

He goes on about our democratic system of government being a great pillar of our society...this would seem to be a funny way of showing it.

 

[Frodo]

And the other 49% didn't vote for the lying little rodent.

Be proud of him, I wouldn't even waste my energy to spit on him.

sooky, sooky,sooky

 

[Frodo]

Im lucky to be one of the smart and lucky 49% that DIDNT vote for the lying little swine and proud of it.
I saw through the arrogant Sydney bastard(just like Kennett did) a long time ago pity the rest of the electorate are so misinformed -just like you.

sooky, sooky

"Look, my son is the only one marching in step"

 

[Contra Mundum]

So you think a true tory would be happy to throw off the English monarchy then?

The queen is hardly an embarrassment. Name the last time she interfered or even commented on Australian politics.

SHE IS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND YOU NONG!!!!! THAT IN ITSELF IS AN EMBARASSMENT

 

[DaveW]

How long will it take Victorians to see through this arrogant sydney swine.The rat only comes to Victoria when he is forced to or trawlling for votes
Victorian voters have to be the biggest suckers for still not seeing through Howard for what he really is! That is no lover of anything Victorian.

Actually Victoria generally has voted against Howard.

2004 was, believe it or not, the first time the Howard-led Coalition won the two party preferred in the state. And even then the ALP captured more seats - 19 to 18.

 

[kirky]

That rodent was voted in for a record term by 51% of Australians with big swings to him in Victoria. Be proud of a man that will go down in history of a great Aussie and get over your hangups.

Explain by what you mean record term???? It was his fourth election win which equals what Bob Hawke achieved but less than Menzies who had 7 election wins. Menzies is the longest serving PM, at 17 years, so again I ask what do you mean by record term????

 

[kirky]

I dont agree that he went out to mislead the public, but the issue was a big one in the prevoius election, I think yes it was blown out of proportion but to say that he won that election due to the children over board is a bit rich, your basiacally saying that the voting public makes it mind up over one issue

Hello, the fear of rising interest rates was the BIG ISSUE and it scared enough of those with mortgages that they really can't afford.

 

[MGREG]

Hello, the fear of rising interest rates was the BIG ISSUE and it scared enough of those with mortgages that they really can't afford.

Scare campaigns?

Oh, like the one that said if you vote for Howard you are really voting for Costello.

WHose campaign was that again?


The best part of that campaign was that it delivered more votes to the winners and less to the loser Labor Party.

Beuatiful to watch. No wonder Trades Hall agrees with the majority of Australians who know Assaulter Latham is a dud of the biggest proportions.

That carbon rod would have had more hope.

 

[kirky]

Scare campaigns?

Oh, like the one that said if you vote for Howard you are really voting for Costello.

WHose campaign was that again?

Yes, both ran scare campaigns however people's sensitivity to potential interest rate rises (because they have over committed and borrowed to the hilt) had more effect. People are more concerned with the "I'm all right jack" factor than the possible moral and ethical issues (ie stretching the truth - children overboard - didn't happen/war in Iraq - just where are those WMDs?).

 

[MGREG]

Yes, both ran scare campaigns however people's sensitivity to potential interest rate rises (because they have over committed and borrowed to the hilt) had more effect. People are more concerned with the "I'm all right jack" factor than the possible moral and ethical issues (ie stretching the truth - children overboard - didn't happen/war in Iraq - just where are those WMDs?).

It is more track record of Labor in power than fear factor.

Have a read of Michelle Grattan's article in The Sunday Age today. It shows that Labor are at the cross roads politically.

 

[butterflykiss]

Yes, both ran scare campaigns however people's sensitivity to potential interest rate rises (because they have over committed and borrowed to the hilt) had more effect. People are more concerned with the "I'm all right jack" factor than the possible moral and ethical issues (ie stretching the truth - children overboard - didn't happen/war in Iraq - just where are those WMDs?).

Thats your average "Aussie' for you, selfish, racist, bigoted, homophobic,hypocritical and easily scared.
Sort to sums up the Libs and the rodent PM as well dosent it?

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Sydneycentric? I don't think anyone else in the country gives 2 sh*ts about Eureka either and it's certainly not something to celebrate so the PM is entirely justified IMO. It's just another one of those weird lionisations that Victorians give to something that's fairly shameful, the other main example being that murderer & robber Ned Kelly.

Strange people those Victorians

At least he didn't chuck it .

 

[MGREG]

Thats your average "Aussie' for you, selfish, racist, bigoted, homophobic,hypocritical and easily scared.
Sort to sums up the Libs and the rodent PM as well dosent it?

Ever worked on a building site where most of the Loser Party's fans come from? All those things exist there.

Thankfully we dont have an assaulting wife abusing manboobing coward as PM which we would have ihad f Australia had voted for Mark "I did nothing wrong" Latham.

Even the Unions have turned against him.

 

[medusala]

Would at bare minimum seem disrespectful, given that the Eureka Stockade was actually the birth of Australian Democracy and that Peter Lalor is honoured as the father of our democracy.
.

Peter Lalor is not the father of our democracy and has never been honoured as such. He was just a trouble maker from a family of trouble makers who simply didnt want to pay for a mining licence. Its similar to Ned Kelly, he was just a thug but the Irish tried to mytholigise them both as some sort of heroes fighting for the common man.

 

[3rdEchelon]

By using misleading information during the lead up to elections is cheating, the children overboard affair is one example, he knew it was lies, but he still used it.

Well IMO that is what politics is about, using anything to gain an advantage. Cheating? Dirty tricks? Lying? Spin doctoring? It's all a part of politics, and anyone who claims otherwise or any politician who take the moral high ground by saying they do't do that stuff are all full of crap.

With this snub, the i did read that it was in Ballarat, so perhaps Howard is avoiding the political risk of being photographed with Suzi Olsen, who will go on to claim Howard as a 'personal friend'.

 

[Bombers 2003]

Peter Lalor is not the father of our democracy and has never been honoured as such. He was just a trouble maker from a family of trouble makers who simply didnt want to pay for a mining licence. Its similar to Ned Kelly, he was just a thug but the Irish tried to mytholigise them both as some sort of heroes fighting for the common man.

In your opinion ,who is the 'father of our democracy'?.I'm not saying Lalor is,though i disagree with your view he was a trouble-maker,why should he have to pay for a overly expensive mining licence,when SOME miners were allowed to fossick without one.

 

[medusala]

Not so sure we have a "father of democracy", surely Henry Parkes was more important in the greater scheme of things than Lalor.