Paddy Ryder

[chickentendies]

I know I'm hijacking your post a bit here REH, but I'd like to request that all of those who have spent the last two years expressing their short-sighted opinions that we should have gone for cheaper options rather than spending the necessary draft picks and salary cap room to recruit Ryder and/or Dixon have a long hard look at the top two players on that leaderboard.

I was one of those people for the Ryder pick-up. Absolutely 100% incorrect in every sense of the word.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

All I remember of the 80s are shoulder pads, big hair and Duran Duran

And getting your period obviously.

Wasn't there a Graeme Teasdale rumour at one stage as well?

Just after he won the Brownlow iirc?

 

[Andre]

Wines, Powell-Pepper, Atley

Blitzkrieg football!

When do we have away games in Poland, the Low Countries and France?

 

[Power Raid]

I was excited when we got both and figured you need to give up a decent player or 2 decent draft picks to get either one of them. I was excited about getting Ryder because I thought if Lobbe could play like he did in 2014, you had Lobbe do the bash and crash stuff against the big dinosaur types and then Paddy's athleticism would come over the top when that number 1 ruck is tired and he could kick a couple of goals a game while waiting to take over from Lobbe do his stuff. But Lobbe went backwards and luckily Paddy has progressed having his best year ever. I thought we paid a touch too much for Ryder because the Essendon case was unresolved and I expected him to get a decent suspension as I knew the Essendon case was always going to end up in Switzerland at CAS. I expected a 12 month suspension with backdating to mean about half a season out depending on timing of the ruling and not a full season out. Big Dix was the player I was hoping we would draft or recruit, since about 2002 when it became obvious Lockwood wasn't going to ever overcome his back injury and Tredders needed help, and then that Butch wasn't going to make it.

I have no idea what happened to Lobbe. His mobility and second efforts in 2014 were fantastic.

I feel an injury or two and then getting too big turned him into a dinosaur.

 

[Deep]

Didnt know where to post this but can't help but feel for him. His cousin has just passed away.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...r/news-story/432988cf4f336635318d29bfff89b603

Condolences

 

[OneGreatClub]

Didnt know where to post this but can't help but feel for him. His cousin has just passed away.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...r/news-story/432988cf4f336635318d29bfff89b603

Condolences

terrible news

 

[Hellgood]

And before that, Ben McEvoy.

For some reason have seen a bit of Hawthorn this year and one thing that has struck me is how well McEvoy has been playing this year.

Absolutely no question though that right now if you took a snap poll of AFL ruckmen as to who you'd least want to see on the other side of the circle at the opening bounce it's be Paddy.

 

[SureBuddy]

You would think that right now he would be fighting Kruezer for that AA spot. As Kruezer is from Melbourne, you would expect he wound get it...

 

[OneGreatClub]

He could possibly miss this weekend's game depending on when the funeral is in WA

 

[Ando39]

It's a bit of a sidestep, but I firmly believe if our administrators have any spare minutes for the next 6 months they should fill them lobbying to the AFL to get rid of the bounce. It's actually scary to think of how dominant Paddy could be if going into every ball-up he knew pretty much exactly how high and where the ball was going to be. He'd be damn near unstoppable.

 

[OneGreatClub]

It's a bit of a sidestep, but I firmly believe if our administrators have any spare minutes for the next 6 months they should fill them lobbying to the AFL to get rid of the bounce. It's actually scary to think of how dominant Paddy could be if going into every ball-up he knew pretty much exactly how high and where the ball was going to be. He'd be damn near unstoppable.

Which is why they won't do it. Unthinkable that Port, of all teams, should have any advantage. It would be a beautiful thing though and would reward skill and talent.

 

[Steve Dore]

It's a bit of a sidestep, but I firmly believe if our administrators have any spare minutes for the next 6 months they should fill them lobbying to the AFL to get rid of the bounce. It's actually scary to think of how dominant Paddy could be if going into every ball-up he knew pretty much exactly how high and where the ball was going to be. He'd be damn near unstoppable.

As OneGreatClub posted above, this is exactly why the AFL would not want to get rid of the centre bounce. Remember the Matthew Primus rule that was introduced in 2003 to stop Primus from dominating ruck contests?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

And getting your period obviously.

Wasn't there a Graeme Teasdale rumour at one stage as well?

Just after he won the Brownlow iirc?

I was just very observant

Start of 1979, Chris Natt announced he was quitting to play for Torrens and Port had no rucks. Jack Spry had retired, Murrie Batt had disappeared back into country Victoria, Pancho Gonsalves from the VFL was a bust.

Port were desperate and had a big checkbook. We were linked with Teasdale, Mick Nolan and I think Barry Round. Crackers Keenan was given a mention too, although that was a mid 1970s rumour recycled.

In the end we signed third string Norwood reserves ruckman Robert Dolan which was a bit of a letdown after all the other names that were mentioned. But he played a heroic 1979 grand final against the imposing South Adelaide ruck battery of Peter Hines and Robert Doyle.

We wouldn't clear Chris Natt to Torrens and he returned to the fold during the season. He lead the ruck after his return but was suspended for the grand final, opening the door for Dolan's moment in the sun - or the driving rain considering the climatic carnage of the 1979 grand final.

Dolan and Natt teamed for the 1980 grand final, making Dolan a dual premiership ruckman.

 

[melanChronic]

Type Ryder into search bar to get the uncensored version.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Rooch must be reading this thread. First paddy is on the cover of today's Tsier




Then Rooch writes about him in the editorial page

Port’s easy Ryder
THE return to football of Port Adelaide ruckman Paddy Ryder has been one of the AFL’s feel-good stories. Ryder, of course, was one of 34 current and former Essendon players who were banned from football for the 2016 season due to the Bomber’s illegal supplements program. In an interview with SA Weekend earlier this year, Ryder admitted he had struggled at times during his year of banishment.

“The footy club structure is something you get very used to and it’s so good for you,” he said. “When you haven’t got that, you are like a lost puppy.” One of the unknowns of the 2017 season was how Ryder would bounce back after a year out of the game. The answer has been – with career-best form. Coach Ken Hinkley believes he is the best ruckman in the AFL. Others are touting him for selection in the year-end All Australian team. It’s no coincidence Ryder’s return has prompted an uptick in Port’s form and the club is again a premiership contender. It’s clear Ryder is enjoying his football again and Port fans are loving having him back.

He gets the front cover of the Game On section

.......How Port Adelaide's...... is the bit I cut off


Then a couple of stories covering almost all of pages 32 and 33

From Exile to Number 1

DENNIS Cometti will watch the Brownlow Medal count in late September with greater interest this year because of Patrick Ryder. If Ryder does not command the best-afield three votes for his dominant performance against West Coast at Subiaco Oval on Sunday, Cometti’s case that a ruckman cannot win the AFL’s highest individual award will be made.

Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley will go to the All-Australian dinner expecting Ryder to be leading the ruck in the AFL’s team of the year. Some would say Hinkley would naturally advocate his own. So the glowing testimony of West Coast mentor Adam Simpson — after watching Ryder set the tone for Sunday’s game with his 39 hit-outs — must carry more influence. “Patrick Ryder is the No. 1 ruckman in the comp at the moment,” says Simpson. “He would be an All-Australian straight-up, walk-in selection in my eyes.”

Ryder’s return to the AFL after a year on the sidelines with a WADA-imposed ban he carried from Essendon — and his dominance in the demanding role of lead ruck — is one of the grand stories of the season. There are Ryder’s personal-best numbers in hit-outs and contested football. “He’s playing sensational footy,” says Brisbane hero Jonathan Brown. There also is the Ryder factor that has significantly contributed to Port Adelaide’s rise from also-ran last season — when it ranked last in hit-outs — to this year’s top-four ranking with the AFL’s most productive midfield (by inside-50s)........

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...i/news-story/de359ce2f81033535cedc9d28290dc74

Paddy is right back where he belongs

Port Adelaide rucks-forward coach Brendon Lade is searching for wood to strike even before the question is complete: Is the Power surprised by Patrick Ryder’s sound comeback to the AFL? “Touch wood,” says Lade, “it continues. “We did think there would be setbacks ... but it has not happened. No niggles, no strains, nothing ... touch wood it continues.” Ryder has played 14 of Port Adelaide’s 15 games this season in his comeback from the year-long WADA-imposed sanction from the Essendon supplements saga in 2012.

His only miss was by the order of the AFL match review panel from his moment of striking Crows forward Riley Knight off the ball in a tense Showdown at Adelaide Oval on April 8. “Paddy’s been really good physically,” says Lade, “and that is a credit to him; he kept himself in good shape.” Lade can appreciate the physical demands on Ryder from his own experiences in 2000 and 2001, where he missed a year due to a broken leg, then re-broke it and missed the following season. But there are very few who can understand the mental strain put on Ryder by the WADA order forcing him away from his football club, his coaches and his teammates. “That is why we have kept it simple from the start with not too much (material on opposition players and game notes),” Lade said. “We add a bit more each week, but we’re careful to not put too much there. “We’ve let Paddy enjoy being out there again — enjoy being in the game again.”

The spin-offs from Ryder’s return — the “Ryder factor” — are emerging both on and off the field.....

Paddy is right back where he belongs

THE RYDER FACTOR
How Port Adelaide has improved with Patrick Ryder’s return to lead the ruck.
Team hit-outs
2016 — ranked 18th (last)
2017 — ranks seventh
Clearances
2016 — ranked second (average 39)
2017 — ranks second (average 40)
Centre clearances
2016 — ranked seventh (average 12.7)
2017 — ranks fourth (average 13.9)
Inside-50s
2016 — average 55 (ranked fifth)
2017 — average 61 (ranks first)

PERSONAL BESTS
Where Patrick Ryder has rewritten his records this season
HIT-OUTS: 48 in round 3 (previous best, 46 in 2012 and 2015)
HIT-OUT AVERAGE: 35 (previous best, 26 in 2014)
CONTESTED Possessions: 13 in round 1
CONTESTED AVERAGE: 9.36 (previous best, 7.82 in 2013)
CLEARANCE AVERAGE: 3.86 (equals 2014 count)

THE ALL-AUSTRALIAN RACE
Hit-outs
Rankings Name Club Games Hit-outs Average
1 Sam Jacobs Adel.............. 15 602 40
2 Shane Mumford GWS........ 15 583 39
3 Jarrod Witts GC................ 15 566 38
4 Brodie Grundy Coll............ 15 547 36
5 Stefan Martin Bris............. 15 528 35
6 Ben McEvoy Haw.............. 15 521 35
7 Patrick Ryder Port............. 14 484 35
8 Todd Goldstein NM............ 15 464 10

To advantage
Rankings Name Club Games Hit-outs Average
1 Shane Mumford GWS........ 15 198 13
2 Jarrod Witts GC................ 15 177 12
3 Sam Jacobs Adel.............. 15 174 12
4 Stefan Martin Bris............. 15 161 11
5 Ben McEvoy Haw.............. 15 151 10
6 Todd Goldstein NM............ 14 149 11
7 Patrick Ryder Port............. 14 144 14
8 Brodie Grundy Coll............ 15 142 10

 

[Dave Omsby]

 

[RossFC]

Dat tap.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Paddy knew what he was doing

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-07-30/ryder-explains-we-knew-what-to-do
BY THE END of Saturday night, Port fans were comparing the great Lade-Burgoyne midfield partnership of the late 2000s, to Paddy Ryder and Robbie Gray. For at least one ruck contest on Saturday night, the comparison was fitting. The synergy between Ryder and Gray in the dying moments of Saturday night’s Round 19 game was incredible. With 18 seconds left on the clock, Ryder deftly tapped the ball from a boundary throw-in to a sprinting Gray...............

Speaking to portadelaidefc.com.au after the game, Ryder explained the impromptu plan hatched by the pair at the stoppage. “I knew there was less than 30 seconds to go,” Ryder said. “Me and Robbie both looked at each other at that last stoppage, and we both said at the same time where he wanted to put it, and where I wanted to hit it to him. “It was just connection between myself, Robbie, I just knew I had to get it there. “Once I got it in his hands, we have so much confidence in the bloke – he’s a superstar – I knew he was going to kick the goal.”
...........
Blind to what was immediately behind him, Ryder needed faith in not just his own work, but Gray’s ability to collect the ball in space and evade potential tacklers. It was a fear Ryder admits he had in the immediate aftermath of making contact with the ball. “I felt like I put it in the right spot first, and then I’m turning to see if he got the ball - whether he was being tackled, or had been bumped out of position,” Ryder said. “He just got there at the right time, and took off… From then on it’s a bit of a blur.” Ryder’s return to ruck supremacy after a tough battle against Melbourne’s Max Gawn last week was among the better displays in a rain-affected match..........
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2017-07-30/ryder-explains-we-knew-what-to-do

and the interview
https://audioboom.com/posts/6154874-paddy-ryder-talks-about-that-hit-out

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Look how Longer grabs Paddy's right wrist but he still can't stop Paddy getting the right amount of purchase and power onto ball to tap it over his shoulder to Robbie.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

From front on

 

[Hellgood]

Longer didn't touch his arm until it was too late.

Great bit of manouevering by Gray to shake off Ross (though somewhat of a lapse from Ross and the multiple players around who failed to guard behind the stoppage) and position himself in the most dangerous spot possible.

 

[1954]

I was just very observant

Start of 1979, Chris Natt announced he was quitting to play for Torrens and Port had no rucks. Jack Spry had retired, Murrie Batt had disappeared back into country Victoria, Pancho Gonsalves from the VFL was a bust.

Port were desperate and had a big checkbook. We were linked with Teasdale, Mick Nolan and I think Barry Round. Crackers Keenan was given a mention too, although that was a mid 1970s rumour recycled.

In the end we signed third string Norwood reserves ruckman Robert Dolan which was a bit of a letdown after all the other names that were mentioned. But he played a heroic 1979 grand final against the imposing South Adelaide ruck battery of Peter Hines and Robert Doyle.

We wouldn't clear Chris Natt to Torrens and he returned to the fold during the season. He lead the ruck after his return but was suspended for the grand final, opening the door for Dolan's moment in the sun - or the driving rain considering the climatic carnage of the 1979 grand final.

Dolan and Natt teamed for the 1980 grand final, making Dolan a dual premiership ruckman.

Geez `Pancho' Gonsalves is a blast from the past, from memory he only lasted a couple of training sessions before Jack sent him back to Melbourne because he wasn't professional enough.

That was an incredible effort by `Sticks' Dolan in the 1979 gf, Hines had been (I think) a WA state representative, and I reckon Doyle had played for South Melbourne.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Longer didn't touch his arm until it was too late.

Great bit of manouevering by Gray to shake off Ross (though somewhat of a lapse from Ross and the multiple players around who failed to guard behind the stoppage) and position himself in the most dangerous spot possible.

I hope we send that footage to AFL house anyway and request they keep an eye on ruckman grabbing Paddys wrist trying to nullify him.

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[Harlott]

Siren Blown

 

[mic59]

Dat tap.

At the very start of the youtube relay and just as the ball is being thrown in St Kilda no 6 (Ross) gives Robbie Gray a little push in the chest. Instead of going goalside and telegraphing his intentions Robbie takes a couple of steps outwards and then runs between Ross and 15(Billings) as Paddy taps the ball.