Pavlich

[NikkiNoo]

A first rounder and Scott Stevens... would they be silly enough? Oh wait... it's Fremantle.

nah make it even better and offer them Matthew Smith too

 

[jo172]

A first rounder and Scott Stevens... would they be silly enough? Oh wait... it's Fremantle.

Nah we'll just give them Chris Groom

 

[macca23]

nah make it even better and offer them Matthew Smith too

Don't weaken the offer Nikki!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Comments are unwarranted and Walls is stirring the pot methinks. If I was Walls I'd have a look at their game strategy first. After all, the player is under instructions, isn't he?

IMHO we are a big chance to get Pavlich home at seasons end.

The Dockers are a rabble ATM and most likely will lose their coach this year as well if they keep playing as they are.

Nothing like an unhappy and disillusioned Pavlich




(come home Son, we'll look after you)

Happen to agree 100% with Walls - his thoughts of Pavlich are well warranted - he doesn't use his body, doesn't take contested marks, he's quite frankly another Biglands all size and no substance.

Ignore Walls views at your peril is my opinion.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I'm with Walls to some extent. He certainly has the body and the ability. He lacks the rock solid determination that is required to be in the elite group. Has all of the attributes of a bloke like Wayne Carey except he lacks one major component. I'm trying to think of a nice way of saying that he just doesnt have enough c (i.e c word) in him.

my view exactly

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He is a super player but you need someone to get it out of him and I think someone like Craig could. Would I go after him if he was to declare he wants to come home at the end of the year? I most certainly would.

Rubbish ! - he's never played physical footy - Never!!!

Not going to change now, not under any coach.

Once again we confuse size with playing style - Biglands "Meh"!

 

[macca23]

Happen to agree 100% with Walls - his thoughts of Pavlich are well warranted - he doesn't use his body, doesn't take contested marks, he's quite frankly another Biglands all size and no substance.

Ignore Walls views at your peril is my opinion.

Year Games Marks Disp Goals Tack
2000 18 78 217 14 17
2001 21 114 289 28 27
2002 22 124 412 10 49
2003 23 112 449 37 58
2004 22 118 466 19 67
2005 4 31 55 7 4
Totals 110 577 1888 115 222
High 13 32 5 8

Yep, definitely the stats of a dud!!

Are you having a bad day WW?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Year Games Marks Disp Goals Tack
2000 18 78 217 14 17
2001 21 114 289 28 27
2002 22 124 412 10 49
2003 23 112 449 37 58
2004 22 118 466 19 67
2005 4 31 55 7 4
Totals 110 577 1888 115 222
High 13 32 5 8

Yep, definitely the stats of a dud!!

Are you having a bad day WW?

Absolutely not - life has never been as crystal clear

Rewind back to the replay Fremantle V Richmond, commentators comments were ignore Fremantle stats they simply play to rack up possessions !!!

So these possessions mean didly sqwat

 

[outback jack]

Its funny how quick some are here to put the knives into the great man. Pav tore chad to bits in the first round, and is clearly learning his position, to call him soft is pathetic too. He is no softer than tredrea. It cant be easy when your in a shi tey team, and rely on their delivery. And to base his whole career on one game, in which the whole team under performed is flawed anyway. If Walls is using this assumption then he can say the same about tredrea after the showdown, he exerted no pressure either. Walls would do best to go watch round one again.

 

[just maybe]

Happen to agree 100% with Walls - his thoughts of Pavlich are well warranted - he doesn't use his body, doesn't take contested marks, he's quite frankly another Biglands all size and no substance.

Ignore Walls views at your peril is my opinion.

Trashing Pavlich and backing Walls?

Again - you're an idiot.

 

[macca23]

Its funny how quick some are here to put the knives into the great man. Pav tore chad to bits in the first round, and is clearly learning his position, to call him soft is pathetic too. He is no softer than tredrea. It cant be easy when your in a shi tey team, and rely on their delivery. And to base his whole career on one game, in which the whole team under performed is flawed anyway. If Walls is using this assumption then he can say the same about tredrea after the showdown, he exerted no pressure either. Walls would do best to go watch round one again.

jack - I thought I'd never say it - quality post!!

You just couldn't be more correct!!

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Noone is doubting that, and everyone would love him here but what/who would you give up ? A home grown boy like VB ? draft picks ? A combo of both ?

Van Berlo has played 2 games and we're getting rid of him. So much for developing our own talent??

 

[Crow-mosone]

Nah we'll just give them Chris Groom

Jo,

there was a time when Chris Groom was a helluva of a prospect. Don't let an injury ruined career influence your appreciation of his ability.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Trashing Pavlich and backing Walls?

Again - you're an idiot.

ummm... no he's not. just maybe some quality time in the room of mirrors is called for?

 

[lincsPJ]

dont forget that his shoulders are stuffed. he screwed them at school - dislocations etc. keep an eye on how much they are taped.

this could explain the lack of hip n shoulders and even some overhead marking capabilities.

so is the consensus nowadays that the crows were right in picking kenny instead of pav?

 

[outback jack]

dont forget that his shoulders are stuffed. he screwed them at school - dislocations etc. keep an eye on how much they are taped.

this could explain the lack of hip n shoulders and even some overhead marking capabilities.

so is the consensus nowadays that the crows were right in picking kenny instead of pav?

he can get them above his head though, and carey's were worse so i dont think it will stop him, most forwards get them eventually. If pav was CHB like kenny he would be AA easy, but all the other clubs overlooked him too so you cant say that really. It would be interesting to hear from someone who has had a reco and how it affected them. I think he'll be very good

 

[Crow-mosone]

so is the consensus nowadays that the crows were right in picking kenny instead of pav?

Not sure if you can say that yet, but what is certainly true is that we were not wrong in picking Kenny. A pick in the 70's is a lottery, we came up pretty good.

I for one, could see a time when Kenny might overtake Pav's actual output, but that's just a bit of guesswork at this stage.

 

[lincsPJ]

carey's were worse so i dont think it will stop him

all the other clubs overlooked him too so you cant say that really.

surely careys werent stuffed this early though. and he had more body strength. cant compare 'em at this stage.

everyone did overlook him but he was in our backyard so the afc and pafc scouts would have had a pretty good look at him. his talent at school was so far beyond the rest that it wasnt funny.

 

[outback jack]

surely careys werent stuffed this early though. and he had more body strength. cant compare 'em at this stage.

everyone did overlook him but he was in our backyard so the afc and pafc scouts would have had a pretty good look at him. his talent at school was so far beyond the rest that it wasnt funny.

did you play with him?? Didnt happen to see kenny when he was young either?? what did you think of them.

Did pav dislocate his shoulders often or something, cause i wouldnt think it hold him back that much. Carey had done his left by 19 i think, and played one whole yr with it loose, if your a smart player and use your body right it can be overcome.

 

[Hasus]

Would still make a play for him & believe he would be a big plus for us in our current squad.

But there has to be a realistic trade offered so who knows how it would turn out.

We are talking about Adelaide here. They selected 2-3 years of Wayne Carey over Daniel Wells who would of been around for 10 years... Stupid Ayres..

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Trashing Pavlich and backing Walls?

Again - you're an idiot.

take peoples comments on their merir - nothing wrong with Walls POV

 

[WaynesWorld19]

ummm... no he's not. just maybe some quality time in the room of mirrors is called for?

 

[tribey]

dont forget that his shoulders are stuffed. he screwed them at school - dislocations etc. keep an eye on how much they are taped.

These were the same negatives alongside Judd's name prior to his draft...

 

[outback jack]

These were the same negatives alongside Judd's name prior to his draft...

very different types of players and cant even be compared.

Only possible point is their reason for slipping, maybe thats why kenny was chosen over pav. And maybe thats why Judd slipped, but i think ball was considered number 1 anyway.

 

[Crow-mosone]

lol sorry. I meant 'Just Maybe' should have a good hard look at himself.