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'Peter Dutton knew before he called his colleagues to Canberra that he would oppose the Voice. The party room meeting was a stunt, like almost everything else in his career. Dutton is the ugly person who makes true the old joke about politics and show business.'

'In describing the Voice, Dutton continually refers to “city-based academics”. He claims they would hijack decision-making. The dog whistle has peculiar harmonics: it suggests that education makes an Indigenous leader less Black and reprises the false division of “urban Aboriginals".'

Excellent editorial today in the Saturday Paper:

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

Plastic spiders

Peter Dutton knew before he called his colleagues to Canberra that he would oppose the Voice. The party room meeting was a stunt, like almost everything else in his career.
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Watching Dutton's press conference and he is actually blaming the ALP and Albanese for a member of HIS own party and one of his closest allies within the Federal Liberal Party leaving the Shadow Cabinet because of HIS decision to oppose the Voice.

He is visibly shaking with anger and getting increasingly shrill as the presser continues - stumbling over words (I've been 'a police offer') and dead set lying about the Referendum and what it means - bringing up threats to Australia's security and the economy FFS.

The beginning of the end for this hollow divisive rotten core of a human being. And he knows it.
 
Festerz said:
Watching Dutton's press conference and he is actually blaming the ALP and Albanese for a member of HIS own party and one of his closest allies within the Federal Liberal Party leaving the Shadow Cabinet because of HIS decision to oppose the Voice.

He is visibly shaking with anger and getting increasingly shrill as the presser continues - stumbling over words (I've been 'a police offer') and dead set lying about the Referendum and what it means - bringing up threats to Australia's security and the economy FFS.

The beginning of the end for this hollow divisive rotten core of a human being. And he knows it.
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He survives until after the referendum. The fall out either way could hurt him - either the no vote wins and he's seen as a drag on progress (killing the urban vote for the Libs) or the yes vote gets up, and he's seen as a drag on what many of his own party campaigned for.
 
Festerz said:
Watching Dutton's press conference and he is actually blaming the ALP and Albanese for a member of HIS own party and one of his closest allies within the Federal Liberal Party leaving the Shadow Cabinet because of HIS decision to oppose the Voice.

He is visibly shaking with anger and getting increasingly shrill as the presser continues - stumbling over words (I've been 'a police offer') and dead set lying about the Referendum and what it means - bringing up threats to Australia's security and the economy FFS.

The beginning of the end for this hollow divisive rotten core of a human being. And he knows it.
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I wish he was one.
 
Mofra said:
He survives until after the referendum. The fall out either way could hurt him - either the no vote wins and he's seen as a drag on progress (killing the urban vote for the Libs) or the yes vote gets up, and he's seen as a drag on what many of his own party campaigned for.
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he'd be gone by now if there was a viable alternative that suits rupie and the alt right.
 

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Mofra said:
He survives until after the referendum. The fall out either way could hurt him - either the no vote wins and he's seen as a drag on progress (killing the urban vote for the Libs) or the yes vote gets up, and he's seen as a drag on what many of his own party campaigned for.
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A No win would definitely be a benefit for Dutton, he’s suffered the Fed, NSW, Vic and Aston losses and knows without a run on the board he’s in deep danger. If No does get up it means that the Voice failed in outer suburbia, which is where Dutton needs a win. While I don’t think a loss on the Voice would be fatal for Albo it certainly will harm him, and re-invigorate Dutton.

If it’s a Yes then Dutton’s gone, no question. But the conservatives who are the majority will only replace him with one of their own, a more friendly and polite conservative.

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Actually the Voice doesn’t really need to fail in outer suburbia, to could get up in the suburbs of every capital and still fail.

Brisbane’s suburbs will be counteracted with a strong No from regional Qld so unlikely there. WA has a lower regional percentage but Perth isn’t exactly tolerance friendly when it comes to Indigenous. There’ll be a big push for Yes, with the WA Libs and Nats supporting it, the West Australian being very pro Indigenous looks like they’ll support it along with a lot of WA Footy players. So WA a battleground.

And then Tasmania, with it’s older, semi urban and more Anglo population, may lead the No side to think they can score a win there.

And that’s all they need.
 
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schneebly111 said:
A No win would definitely be a benefit for Dutton, he’s suffered the Fed, NSW, Vic and Aston losses and knows without a run on the board he’s in deep danger. If No does get up it means that the Voice failed in outer suburbia, which is where Dutton needs a win. While I don’t think a loss on the Voice would be fatal for Albo it certainly will harm him, and re-invigorate Dutton.

If it’s a Yes then Dutton’s gone, no question. But the conservatives who are the majority will only replace him with one of their own, a more friendly and polite conservative.

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Actually the Voice doesn’t really need to fail in outer suburbia, to could get up in the suburbs of every capital and still fail.

Brisbane’s suburbs will be counteracted with a strong No from regional Qld so unlikely there. WA has a lower regional percentage but Perth isn’t exactly tolerance friendly when it comes to Indigenous. There’ll be a big push for Yes, with the WA Libs and Nats supporting it, the West Australian being very pro Indigenous looks like they’ll support it along with a lot of WA Footy players. So WA a battleground.

And then Tasmania, with it’s older, semi urban and more Anglo population, may lead the No side to think they can score a win there.

And that’s all they need.
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Why are you hitched on the idea that white people of British descent are more likely to vote no than other non-indigenous groups? Have I missed some polling on the matter or something?
 
Mofra said:
He survives until after the referendum. The fall out either way could hurt him - either the no vote wins and he's seen as a drag on progress (killing the urban vote for the Libs) or the yes vote gets up, and he's seen as a drag on what many of his own party campaigned for.
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You may well be right - he has certainly thrown all his chips in over the Referendum issue and no credible alternative candidate will dare challenge for the leadership now as it would be akin to taking over the driver's seat as the car heads over the cliff.

But his own appointed shadow Attorney General and Indigenous Affairs spokes-person stepping away from him at this vital time says to me that his leadership is doomed whatever the outcome given that very few in his front bench are openly supporting his NO stance.

Dutton has cynically tried to use the Referendum as a political wedge issue on the government and the reality is that wedge has split his own party in two.

I could be wrong but I would not be surprised to see Leeser replace Dutton as Liberal leader by year's end regardless of the referendum result.
 
Festerz said:
You may well be right - he has certainly thrown all his chips in over the Referendum issue and no credible alternative candidate will dare challenge for the leadership now as it would be akin to taking over the driver's seat as the car heads over the cliff.

But his own appointed shadow Attorney General and Indigenous Affairs spokes-person stepping away from him at this vital time says to me that his leadership is doomed whatever the outcome given that very few in his front bench are openly supporting his NO stance.

Dutton has cynically tried to use the Referendum as a political wedge issue on the government and the reality is that wedge has split his own party in two.

I could be wrong but I would not be surprised to see Leeser replace Dutton as Liberal leader by year's end regardless of the referendum result.
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With the knives out for Lesser at the moment from the hard right of the LNP, I'll be very surprised if they're that quick to turn around and walk back the past ten years of progressively nastier politics that quickly.

Some of the comments (wailing) from LNP volunteers on social media in the wake of the Aston by-election loss were telling; lots still don't think they're quite right wing enough. Those people would see it as LNP duty to oppose the voice on principle and I doubt Lesser will be their man.
 

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