pick 8,24,28,40,56

[ferguswatts]

here is the best combo:

8. monners
24. hartlett
28. polo
40. griffin
56. fisher

 

[macca23]

here is the best combo:

8. monners
24. hartlett
28. polo
40. griffin
56. fisher

Apart from the very obvious choices, we're absolutely guessing in the dark, because we're not only guessing what the Crows might like to take,but also what the other 15 teams will take.

I have virtually no idea, but that won't stop me from having half a go!!

8 Monfries
24 Maric
28 One of Bartlett, Egan, Redden, Polo - the best of those who's available (there has to be a slider here, maybe even Eckermann)
40 Same rule as for#28
56 McGough

If we start off with the quinella of Monfries and Maric, we will be set up for a damn good draft.

 

[BulldogMike]

Which pick has Neil Craig commited to Ackland?

 

[crowsarethebest]

pick 8- monfries/wood
pick 24- maric/mcqualter depends on pick 8
pick 28- jarred moore/redden/pattison depends what we do with pick 8 & 24 whos available
pick 40- jon griffen - i think we can afford to give him a go
pick 56- left for pre season draft pass

 

[crowsarethebest]

Which pick has Neil Craig commited to Ackland?

shut up and you guys might be the 1 who picks ackland up

 

[PAfolwr]

Polo hey?
I'd be very careful before drafting anyone with that name.
Chances of playing out his career with only one club may be somewhat slim if genes come into it.

 

[silky-smooth]

These are just aspirations... not what is going to happen. There is pretty much no way you can predict a draft. A player can go anywere!

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

All I ask is that we finally draft some players with a bit of natural aggression. I just hope there are not too many timid players like S Stevens and Jericho in the AFC's sights.

 

[noddy]

All I ask is that we finally draft some players with a bit of natural aggression. I just hope there are not too many timid players like S Stevens and Jericho in the AFC's sights.

Amen to that brother amen to that.

 

[macca23]

While it was good to see that the Sunday Mail had a lash at a phantom draft today courtesy of McDermott and that clueless Jasper what's his name, it didn't seem to have a lot of credibility.

They say themselves that Ryan Griffen is a certain top 4 pick, yet pick him going at 5. Everyone else seems to regard him as a certain top 3 selection. Why that is important is because that determines the type of player that is selected after that and ultimately affects us.

They had us taking Wood with our first pick and the skinny lad from East Fremantle, Griffin with our 5th. There's no way we will be taking 2 young ruckmen in the draft.

As I said, good to see that they had a go, but I doubt their accuracy.

 

[Eggzoi]

2 ruckmen's not THAT unbelievable. How good would it be to not need to worry about the ruck for another 10-12 years?

 

[Mad Dog]

While it was good to see that the Sunday Mail had a lash at a phantom draft today courtesy of McDermott and that clueless Jasper what's his name, it didn't seem to have a lot of credibility.

They say themselves that Ryan Griffen is a certain top 4 pick, yet pick him going at 5. Everyone else seems to regard him as a certain top 3 selection. Why that is important is because that determines the type of player that is selected after that and ultimately affects us.

They had us taking Wood with our first pick and the skinny lad from East Fremantle, Griffin with our 5th. There's no way we will be taking 2 young ruckmen in the draft.

As I said, good to see that they had a go, but I doubt their accuracy.

Agree with all this - Pick 8 is hard enough for us to determine - never mind having a crack at the others - but - a general comment......the Sunday Mail has never been a favourite of mine......hell if there was an alternative I'd never buy another copy.......but I hope they get rid of McDermott b4 the 2005 season starts up. His blatant parochialism together with the chip on his shoulder completely misleads your average reader. Also - it would be handy if the Editors would check his ravings for contradiction.

 

[crowsarethebest]

While it was good to see that the Sunday Mail had a lash at a phantom draft today courtesy of McDermott and that clueless Jasper what's his name, it didn't seem to have a lot of credibility.

They say themselves that Ryan Griffen is a certain top 4 pick, yet pick him going at 5. Everyone else seems to regard him as a certain top 3 selection. Why that is important is because that determines the type of player that is selected after that and ultimately affects us.

They had us taking Wood with our first pick and the skinny lad from East Fremantle, Griffin with our 5th. There's no way we will be taking 2 young ruckmen in the draft.

As I said, good to see that they had a go, but I doubt their accuracy.

I reckon we should take 2 ruckman in this years draft because clarke is probably going to retire next year. Biglands is 28 and hudson is 26. Then theres andrews on the rookie list. A ruckman takes at Least 3-4 years to mature. This years draft is the strongest ruckman draft i have seen in the last few years. I would like us to take 2 midfeilders and 2ruckman or 1 ruckman and 1 KPP. Then i'd like us to rookie list a few ruckman.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

I was also bemused at something in the Sunday Mail Phantom draft. When they predicted we will pick up Wood they said he should be ready by the time Clarke retires, I would of thought Clarke only has one more year in him, I cannot see Wood being ready for next season, he is way to under developed IMO.

Would not like to pick up Griffin with our NDP much prefer to see him on a rookie list.

 

[macca23]

I reckon we should take 2 ruckman in this years draft because clarke is probably going to retire next year. Biglands is 28 and hudson is 26. Then theres andrews on the rookie list. A ruckman takes at Least 3-4 years to mature. This years draft is the strongest ruckman draft i have seen in the last few years. I would like us to take 2 midfeilders and 2ruckman or 1 ruckman and 1 KPP. Then i'd like us to rookie list a few ruckman.

IMO our 1st 4 draft picks have to include at least 2 mid-fielders, 1 ruckman and 1 KPP. The 5th one should be for the best and most appropriate player to our needs either in round 5 or the PSD

Any thought of a 2nd ruckman should be contained to the rookie list.

As I've said several times, drafting ruckmen is an even bigger gamble than the average position player because of the length of time it takes them to develop.

 

[Macca19]

28 One of Bartlett, Egan, Redden, Polo - the best of those who's available (there has to be a slider here, maybe even Eckermann)

Id like to think that if Eckermann is avialbe at 11 then Port will pick him up quick smart.

 

[jo172]

How would you guys feel about picking up Juniper? I'm thinking of him of Redden but not both.

 

[Stiffy_18]

While it was good to see that the Sunday Mail had a lash at a phantom draft today courtesy of McDermott and that clueless Jasper what's his name, it didn't seem to have a lot of credibility.

They say themselves that Ryan Griffen is a certain top 4 pick, yet pick him going at 5. Everyone else seems to regard him as a certain top 3 selection. Why that is important is because that determines the type of player that is selected after that and ultimately affects us.

They had us taking Wood with our first pick and the skinny lad from East Fremantle, Griffin with our 5th. There's no way we will be taking 2 young ruckmen in the draft.

As I said, good to see that they had a go, but I doubt their accuracy.

I actually thought that their first round was a very good attempt at it.

We all think that Monfries will be there but I am NOT that confident. There is a chance that he will be BUT there is also a fair chance he gets picked up before.

I can see the rationale is Griffen slipping down a bit. Their idea of WB taking a KPP with pick 3 has a LOT of merit. WB have a fair few midfielders but lack KP class. In picking up Monfires with pick 6 they wouldn't really lose much. If they don't pick up a KPP with pick 3 there is a chance that thaey won't have one to pick at 6.

I think their attempt at first round was a very good one and probably the best I have seen which is a bit surprising.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I am going by my gut feel that Monfries will be picked up by our first pick. The rest of my picks relect my hope

Pick 8: Wood
Pick 24: Eckerman (this is me being hopeful )
Pick 28: Thomas Redden (Me being hopeful again )
Pick 40: Shane Neaves (unlikely to happen but I would do it)
Pick 56: Pass

PSD

Pick 5: Best available but will probably pick up Adam Fisher.

 

[RooDog]

I am going by my gut feel that Monfries will be picked up by our first pick. The rest of my picks relect my hope

Pick 8: Wood
Pick 24: Eckerman (this is me being hopeful )
Pick 28: Thomas Redden (Me being hopeful again )
Pick 40: Shane Neaves (unlikely to happen but I would do it)
Pick 56: Pass

PSD

Pick 5: Best available but will probably pick up Adam Fisher.

I think it will be Wood with 8 now, im more confident of getting him than i am with Monfries, when you look at Monfries was an All Australian, is hard at it and is a great tackler. Would be ready for AFL next season unlike Wood, this would appeal to a few clubs that finished below us and i realistically see him being gone at our pick. Dont think we will get Eckerman either, he will be gone by pick 20 and so will Redden i think, i think Redden will probably go in the top 15.

On Fisher and Griffen i dont expect us to pick either of them up in the draft. I see them both as rookie listers, put them there as back up and if they go all right then we senior list them, especially Griffen, he is unproven and we have a few young KPPs at the moment. Fisher i would be prepared to pick up in the PSD as he looks like a ready made replacement for Roo and could compliment Thomspon nicely in the middle.

for me it will be:

8- Wood
24- a midfielder that has slipped down a little bit
28- Hartlett if brisbane dont take him at 27
40- Pearce: more likely to be here than at 24 as the advertiser suggested, i think he is a good player but not worth a 2nd round pick, i think Hawthorn gambled on a simlair type player last year in Harry Miller and he has really gone backwards in his football and played mainly ressies for Box Hill. I think Pearce is a much better player though and has another dimension to his game in he can play in the midfield too.
56-pass

PSD- best youngster or one of McGough or Fisher

 

[Thunderstruck]

Agree pretty much Stiffy

When I first saw it in the centre spread I thought, hrrrm this is a load of crap but on closer inspection they have done a fairly good job with the 1st round. Picking that first round is a real pain, generally one can get the correct players but the real problem is in what ORDER...Glad its not my job. Heres how I hope NOT to see it go, I want one of Wood or Monfries....its DOES look likely that we are 90% assured of getting one of them...but we dont know how those recruiters and coaches are thinking. Ive got Lewis at 8, he IMO is the best available midfielder there if Monfries is gone.

1) Deleido
2) Tambling
3) Griffen (despite the logic in the article, I cant quite see a guy of his talent slipping below the top 3.
4) Roughead
5) Franklin
6) Wood (gripe)
7) Monfries (gripe)
8) Lewis
9) Deluca
10) Grundy
11) Meyer
12) Willetts
13) Meesen
14) Eckermann
15) Sharp
16) Kirkby
17) Williams
18) Murphy
19) Redden

To be frank that could be completely wrong, but the top lot is my fear.

Be nice if it went something like

1) Deleido
2) Tambling
3) Griffen
4) Roughead
5) Franklin
6) Williams (he is being touted as a roughie...not sure about him)
7) Meesen
8) MONFRIES
9) Wood

etc

My number one hope is for Angus Monfries...if he is gone I'll be privately spewing, but be delighted all the same if we pick up Wood, assuming he is still there.

Overall as I said Im 90% confident about getting one of them.

With the other picks heres what I'd do:

#8 Monfries
#24 Maric
#28 Van Berlo (top kid)
#40 Thomas (cant help myself)
# 56 pass

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Wallace plots a premier dream
14 November 2004 Sunday Herald Sun
JON RALPH

TERRY Wallace is under no illusions when it comes to Richmond's draft requirements -- he knows the Tigers need to select talent on every line.

Wallace says Richmond will be ruthless in only selecting draftees who fit into a pre-ordained blueprint for premiership success.

It is a formula Wallace has honed in his two years out of football and one he hopes will take him to premiership success.

"I have a blueprint that has every position on the ground and what I reckon the requirement is of every position," he said.

"That is what I believe a premiership team should look like and I am trying to fill the spots on that.

"We (have had) a discussion about making sure the players we are recruiting to the club actually fill this blueprint.

"It is something I have developed while I have been out of the game -- just sitting back and thinking about the bigger picture stuff."

Chief among the priorities for the Tigers' list are young key position players, even if their first picks are ultimately midfielders.

"I think when you are coming from 16th, you need a bit of everything," he said.

"When you see our side at the moment, we have got uncertainty down the spine, that is fair to say.

"We have got a couple of developing players. (Kyle) Archibald, who no one has seen yet, might be a player, and (Jay) Schulz, I think, can be a player, so we have got a couple of them who we see developing in the future.

"We would like another one or two of those types, we need some real genuine excitement in the midfield.

"We need some inside players who also have speed and ability to run the lines and overlap. We need a little bit of that, and also a developing ruckman (to go) with Stafford, who is 30.

"In which order, we have to decide. Which is the priority?"

Richmonds 3rd pick is 12 - a Ruckmen is a distinct possibility - does this force Hawthorn, Carlton & possibly the Bulldogs to take a ruckmen early as possible - Hawthorn have declared they'll take a tall at 7 and hinted it's a choice between Deluca and Meeson, Carlton also at 9.

Meeson is getting the strongest support of all the ruckmen in Melb because of his aggressiveness and ground play.

Kevin Sheehan last night really talked Williams (QLD)up - Todays paper also reiterated the Bulldogs strong interest in Tom Williams at pick 6.

Still of the opinion Franklin may be a slider

Deledio, Tambling and Griffen are just about cast in cement, in that order.
Roughhead to go 4 - Richmond
Hawthorn at 5 is the question marK

 

[mymansyd]

I'm not gonna predict what players I think we'll pick...Too hard for my pea-brain. I reckon I'd have more luck in next week's Powerball.

However, I thought I'd have a crack at the types of players we will probably draft. For the sake of the balance of our squad, I reckon we need 1 more ruckman, 1 more key possie and 3 more midfielder types.

Pick 8 - Wood or Monfries.
Pick 24 - If we pick Wood at 8, then I think we'll pick the best midfielder available. If we pick Monfries at 8, then I think we'll pick the best ruckman available.
Pick 28 - Probably a key position player here. Our young KPP stocks are pretty good (eg. Rutten, McGregor, Watts, Krueger, Hentschel), so I doubt we'll pick up a key possie player with picks 8,24. Would take a KPP at 28, coz' doubt there be many good ones left by 40.
Pick 40 - Best midfielder-type still available.
Pick 56 OR PSD - Best midfielder-type still available.

This plan-of-attack would obviously get adjusted if a "steal" became available.

Then again, maybe we just pick the best 4/5 players available and to hell with the balance of the squad. Just kinda' talking out loud.

 

[crowsarethebest]

For pick 28 i'd like us to take one of Wilkes, gibson or a player that has slipped down.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Still of the opinion Franklin may be a slider

I am not disagreeing with that as I have the same belief that Franklin is the one most likely to be a bit of a slider and Williams the most likely to be the smoky selection in top 6.

The question has to be asked though, if Franklin does slide, will Adelaide work towards its blueprint and select either midfielder or a ruckman with pick 8, or do they go for Lance Franklin who on pure ability is top 4 material??????

I still get the feeling that Monfries will get snatched up earlier than our pick and I am thinking Hawks with pick 5 or Bulldogs with 6.

I just get this feeling that Wood will be the one we pick up