Pickett = Cheat

[Macca19]

Sounds like the new tribunal works than , hope i haven't spoke too soon, am i correct in thinking that Wizard cup games are no longer taken off as regular season games in terms of suspensions?

Its been like that for a couple of years now anyway.

Stiffy - Apparently because its gone to the tribunal there is no oppurtunity for him to plead guilty so minimum is 6 games.

 

[Stiffy_18]

6 weeks?
FFS that is crap.
The new tribunal system is supposed to be for the good of the game not to totally stuff it up and mix up severely bad cases with ones that are nowhere near it.
Out of interest, how would Lynch have fared with this system?
I do not know enough about it to work it out.

Personally I think Pickett should definetly get suspended but like you I think 6 weeks is a bit rich. I think AFL are just making an example out of him so no one else is stupid enough to do what Pickett did last night.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Its been like that for a couple of years now anyway.

Stiffy - Apparently because its gone to the tribunal there is no oppurtunity for him to plead guilty so minimum is 6 games.

Yeah just realised that. This new system will take time getting used to.

I do think 6 games is a bit rich though.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

I think 6 weeks is a bit over the top as stated earlier I think he should get 3-5 but I am 100% content with what the tribunal might do.
I think it was a low act and he will get whats coming to him.

 

[jo172]

If he gets suspended he can still play Wizard Cup but serve the suspension in regular season. So if he goes for 6 weeks he won't be back before round 7 of this year. Those were the rules last year and I am not sure if they got changed with the new tribunal.

Harsh but fair, Will also make sure he doesn't mutilate Begley again till Round 19!

Stiffy in your opinion what is worse, Farmers loose knee connecting to Doughty's head or Pickett's little incident!

I was screaming bloody murder when farmer had his little kick, but Pickett had no intention of bumping or even going for the ball! Then again i'm still spewing over the Wiz getting off

 

[*PAF]

Personally I think Pickett should definetly get suspended but like you I think 6 weeks is a bit rich. I think AFL are just making an example out of him so no one else is stupid enough to do what Pickett did last night.

I am down as saying that IMO he will go, but 6 weeks?
I really would like to know how Lynch and Bickley would have gone. It could be argued that what he tried to do is part of the game, what Lynch and Bickley did is not.

 

[Sheeds]

To be fair to Mark Williams he made the point he had only quickly seen the incident as it unfolded and had not seen the replay. I was in the same boat, at the time I did not think it was too bad, but on reflection it does not look convincing at all.

Im not going to defend Byron and say nothing in it because clearly there was. But people saying Byron is a thug and that is all he is are unfortunately making unfair judgments based upon emotion. Byron is a wonderful footballer, played in a couple of premierships, All-Australian, Norm Smith etc you have heard it all before. The bump is a huge part of his game, the fact he has up until this game not been suspended for one of these supposed acts of thuggery would suggest he has done nothing wrong.

Byron would be the first to admit he has made a mistake and it was poor on his part. He has made a mistake and the Tribunal will act accordingly. I hope Pickett learns from this but I would not want to change the way he plays his footy, tough and hard, this was an unfortunate islolated incident.

I await to be flamed for bringing up the Bickley incident but a lot of Port supporters still carry on about this. Mark Bickley was one of the most honest and fairest players you could ever wish too see play the game. While that incident with Wakelin was a poor one I see it as one poor moment in a brilliant career and it should not be hung over the career he had. I suppose I see this and think on the other side of the coin Byron is copping a little treatment unfairly when only the incident needs to be judged.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

I am down as saying that IMO he will go, but 6 weeks?
I really would like to know how Lynch and Bickley would have gone. It could be argued that what he tried to do is part of the game, what Lynch and Bickley did is not.

With respect but can we move on from the Bickley and Lynch incident. what is the relevance?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

6 weeks?
FFS that is crap.
The new tribunal system is supposed to be for the good of the game not to totally stuff it up and mix up severely bad cases with ones that are nowhere near it.
Out of interest, how would Lynch have fared with this system?
I do not know enough about it to work it out.

It was a reckless act by Pickett & not for the 1st time ... but 6 weeks seems overly harsh. He should at least have an opportinity like the others to plead guilty for a set penalty like the rest of the players heading to the tribunal.

 

[maccas_no1]

Bickley smashed Wakelin's jaw.....got 5 weeks.....That was dirty, reakless and malicious. You have lost the plot macca.....but then again, you never had it!!!

So what Pickett did wasnt???

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

To be fair to Mark Williams he made the point he had only quickly seen the incident as it unfolded and had not seen the replay. I was in the same boat, at the time I did not think it was too bad, but on reflection it does not look convincing at all.

Im not going to defend Byron and say nothing in it because clearly there was. But people saying Byron is a thug and that is all he is are unfortunately making unfair judgments based upon emotion. Byron is a wonderful footballer, played in a couple of premierships, All-Australian, Norm Smith etc you have heard it all before. The bump is a huge part of his game, the fact he has up until this game not been suspended for one of these supposed acts of thuggery would suggest he has done nothing wrong.

Byron would be the first to admit he has made a mistake and it was poor on his part. He has made a mistake and the Tribunal will act accordingly. I hope Pickett learns from this but I would not want to change the way he plays his footy, tough and hard, this was an unfortunate islolated incident.

I await to be flamed for bringing up the Bickley incident but a lot of Port supporters still carry on about this. Mark Bickley was one of the most honest and fairest players you could ever wish too see play the game. While that incident with Wakelin was a poor one I see it as one poor moment in a brilliant career and it should not be hung over the career he had. I suppose I see this and think on the other side of the coin Byron is copping a little treatment unfairly when only the incident needs to be judged.

Well said, the only problem I have with Pickett is he has done this before in reference to not making the ball his sole objective. RE: the Krummel incident.
I know what Choppy did in that instance was technically inside the rules but for mine I left a bad taste in mouth in regards to him.
He went after the player before the ball, I cant remember if Krummel was seriously hurt and I think everyone agrees that Begley was very lucky to escape serious injury.
I dont know, I think I am just mumbling now

 

[maccas_no1]

I wouldn't be so ********y

With the new rules the lowest he will get is 4 weeks if he pleads guilty. If he doesn't plead quilty he could get as many as six so before you mouth off again get your facts straight.

Couldnt have said it better myself

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Compare the tribunal records before you make yourself look stupid in future!

And you should look at past Pickett incidents before you make yourself look stupid. The guy has been cowardly skirting the packs looking to take out ball players for years now. About time the AFL did something about it. But knowing the reactiveness of the AFL he will get off. Then when and if he does serious damage to someone they will say "********e we didn't see that coming".

BTW Under the current rules, he will get at the very minimum of 5 games.

 

[kirky]

The last word on Bickley - it cost him 5 games which included finals and his departure may have cost the Crows an AFL GF spot in 2002. This incident will cost Pickett only minor round games.

The intelligence of Power supporters on 5AA tonight further consolidates my view that some have absoultely no idea. Some even blamed Begley for not picking the ball up. Thank god you don't need a mensa test to have a membership ticket.

You do the crime, and this could have been a lot worse, you do the time. Remember, at no stage was his eyes on the ball and yes, he could have changed tact if he wanted to but decided to go in without any thought. Unnecessary and reckless and we await the outcome.

 

[MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl]

Byron Pickett is a moron on and off the field.

He'll get his just deserts.

Brett Montgomerie is no better....he got reported for the 3rd time in 4 showdowns for striking Brett Burton.

k
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[*PAF]

With respect but can we move on from the Bickley and Lynch incident. what is the relevance?

Plenty of relevance IMO, BUT only from the point of view that we know what they got, and now it would be interesting how this incidence stacks up against them.
I will not go into any of those my daddy is meaner than your daddy debates.

What we have is supposedly a new system that will take out the uncertainty of the old system.
So far so good.
How does it stack up? That is the question.
Let's pick a few examples from the past.
2 that are bad and got weeks. Lynch and Bickley.

Then let's look at late bumps such as McLeod and Wanganeen from the past.
Then there is the Crawford one from last year.

That is where IMO the relevance is, and it would be good to compare outcomes.
Nothing to do with my opinion of any of these incidents at this stage.

 

[*PAF]

And you should look at past Pickett incidents before you make yourself look stupid. The guy has been cowardly skirting the packs looking to take out ball players for years now. About time the AFL did something about it. But knowing the reactiveness of the AFL he will get off. Then when and if he does serious damage to someone they will say "********e we didn't see that coming".

BTW Under the current rules, he will get at the very minimum of 5 games.

Hey Springy, shouldn't you be in the other SA at the moment?

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Plenty of relevance IMO, BUT only from the point of view that we know what they got, and now it would be interesting how this incidence stacks up against them.
I will not go into any of those my daddy is meaner than your daddy debates.

What we have is supposedly a new system that will take out the uncertainty of the old system.
So far so good.
How does it stack up? That is the question.
Let's pick a few examples from the past.
2 that are bad and got weeks. Lynch and Bickley.

Then let's look at late bumps such as McLeod and Wanganeen from the past.
Then there is the Crawford one from last year.

That is where IMO the relevance is, and it would be good to compare outcomes.
Nothing to do with my opinion of any of these incidents at this stage.

But thats just the point, we cant compare outcomes because it is a new system designed to get different outcomes.
People were not happy with the old system everyone agreed that this was needed.
Why then compare outcomes, IMO we need to start a fresh, hence why we have the new system.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I love it the way some Port supporters are bringing up Roo and Bicks. I would like to compare the amount of times Bickley and Roo have put their head over the ball regardless of the oncoming traffic as opposed to Pickett. Cowardly effort.

 

[MrAaron]

Pickett shoul dbe in jail by now anyway only for the fact that the judge that was in his court case is a Port fan and would never think of sending him to jail for either battery or driving without a license while under the influence !

Any normal person and he would be in jail for 2 years.

 

[Crow]

Bickley smashed Wakelin's jaw.....got 5 weeks.....That was dirty, reakless and malicious. You have lost the plot macca.....but then again, you never had it!!!

Think your intelligence level screams through in this post alone.

Bickley played hard fair football for 98% of his career and was the kind of captain coaches only dream about. The incident with Wakelin was completely isolated and so far out of character it's not funny.

Bickley smashed Wakelin's face anyway, big deal, face the facts- The Wakelins have the perfect faces for being broken. I can't think of any brothers in the history of the game who have had their faces mashed, trashed and smashed more than Darryl and Shane Wakelin. It's a fact of football, you feel like smashing someones face in you find a Wakelin...

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Hey Springy, shouldn't you be in the other SA at the moment?

Thursday morning mate.

 

[blackdiamond]

With respect but can we move on from the Bickley and Lynch incident. what is the relevance?

It has plenty of relevance.

Just like when we talk about our 2004 premiership and the best reply you have got is 2>1.

Relevance???

 

[*PAF]

But thats just the point, we cant compare outcomes because it is a new system designed to get different outcomes.
People were not happy with the old system everyone agreed that this was needed.
Why then compare outcomes, IMO we need to start a fresh, hence why we have the new system.

No no no no no.
Still not where I was coming from.

All I was asking, and now rephrase again, is :
if say the McLeod incident would end up with a similar sentence as Bickley or Lynch, then the new system would be stuffed wouldn't it.
That is all that my question was asking to anyone that knows how the sentencing works.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

The last word on Bickley - it cost him 5 games which included finals and his departure may have cost the Crows an AFL GF spot in 2002. This incident will cost Pickett only minor round games.

The intelligence of Power supporters on 5AA tonight further consolidates my view that some have absoultely no idea. Some even blamed Begley for not picking the ball up. Thank god you don't need a mensa test to have a membership ticket.

You do the crime, and this could have been a lot worse, you do the time. Remember, at no stage was his eyes on the ball and yes, he could have changed tact if he wanted to but decided to go in without any thought. Unnecessary and reckless and we await the outcome.

Bad sentence to use in a thread relating to Port players.