Pickett = Cheat

[CaptainDangerfield]

We've still got Shattock and Surjan.....

Shattock and surjan - the competition trembles in unison

 

[portentous]

Shattock and surjan - the competition trembles in unison

As you would.....

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

What a load of crap. If a player has his eyes on the ball but has zero peripheral vision and absolutely zero awareness around him then they should not be playing any sport except for maybe darts. All bar one of his bumps in a Port jumper the "victims" would have seen him coming as he came from either directly in front or diagonally from in front.

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I dont think Fletchers loading will be too bad. He has been reported quite a few times but from memory hes either gotten off or only gotten one week.

Brown on the other hand, at the moment, is looking at 130% added onto whatever sorta charge he gets. So if he loses the plot just once in the next 2 years and hits someone reasonably bad (like what he did to Grant for example) then he could be gone for close to half a season.

Face it Macca the guys a sniper. Look at posts on the main board the majority of supporters think he is a gutless coward. But then again that's the PAFC way isn't it - cheap shots and blind hits?

 

[Leaping Lindner]

1. Who was the last player reported for attepted striking - I can't remember?

2. Back to the injury factor which I maintain that the guy gets off only because he failed to connect - thats wrong IMO - but we'll continue the discussion during the year I'm sure

Peter Carey got 2 matches for attempting to strike during the 84 finals series. There are some that still say it cost the Bays the flag that year.

 

[crowie]

So its 6 weeks

I don't think they can complain about that, Port wanted the tribunal to be shaken up as most of us have been wanting for some time. The way they are now explaining the sentance with a points system is definatley a lot better than the old system. Lets just hope that they're consistent from now on, the precedent has been set.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Peter Carey got 2 matches for attempting to strike during the 84 finals series. There are some that still say it cost the Bays the flag that year.

Didn't think you would go back that far - but it does illustrate my point

 

[Leaping Lindner]

Didn't think you would go back that far - but it does illustrate my point

Can't help it WW. I'm a member of the old farts club

 

[maccas_no1]

Port Adelaide football manager Peter Rohde .

There's a HUGE problem to start with

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Can't help it WW. I'm a member of the old farts club

 

[tinman]

Brown on the other hand, at the moment, is looking at 130% added onto whatever sorta charge he gets. So if he loses the plot just once in the next 2 years and hits someone reasonably bad (like what he did to Grant for example) then he could be gone for close to half a season.

I think the theoretical calculation of half a season for Brown was for a hit in the grand final.

1. Brisbane have got to make it to the GF
2. He has to be available to play (ie. not under suspension for an earlier indiscretion).

I reckon odds of him playing in another GF are shrinking

 

[Doddy]

Its a shame Pickett got six weeks, frankly I enjoyed seeing Monty smash Burton which should be worth a best on ground right there and definately worth a week. Begley is a pretty boy sook anyway and if he had half an ounce of skill he wouldve picked the ball up and been off. The only thing Picketts guilty of is underestimating how bad your skills actually are, just a shame Begley could still walk of the ground.

 

[Macca19]

I think the theoretical calculation of half a season for Brown was for a hit in the grand final.

1. Brisbane have got to make it to the GF
2. He has to be available to play (ie. not under suspension for an earlier indiscretion).

I reckon odds of him playing in another GF are shrinking

Correct it was for a Grand Final hit.

But...he now has 130% added onto whatever charge he gets. If he gets a level 5 striking charge (worth 550 points) then you gotta add 130% onto that (1265) before the 25% discount for a guilty plea. Thats still 9 games suspension.

Even so...he faces missing 4-5 games for some tiny misdemeanour if hes not careful.

I can see what the tribunal is after. They are after players getting big suspensions so to stop them for doing something reportable again.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Its a shame Pickett got six weeks, frankly I enjoyed seeing Monty smash Burton which should be worth a best on ground right there and definately worth a week. Begley is a pretty boy sook anyway and if he had half an ounce of skill he wouldve picked the ball up and been off. The only thing Picketts guilty of is underestimating how bad your skills actually are, just a shame Begley could still walk of the ground.

Another ****************

 

[portentous]

Another ****************

Oh hell I gotta agree with you. Don't worry, he won't stay long, just drops in to stir every now and then. He lives elsewhere.....

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Its a shame Pickett got six weeks, frankly I enjoyed seeing Monty smash Burton which should be worth a best on ground right there and definately worth a week. Begley is a pretty boy sook anyway and if he had half an ounce of skill he wouldve picked the ball up and been off. The only thing Picketts guilty of is underestimating how bad your skills actually are, just a shame Begley could still walk of the ground.

Oh just ******** off you dip ********.

 

[macca23]

Its a shame Pickett got six weeks, frankly I enjoyed seeing Monty smash Burton which should be worth a best on ground right there and definately worth a week. Begley is a pretty boy sook anyway and if he had half an ounce of skill he wouldve picked the ball up and been off. The only thing Picketts guilty of is underestimating how bad your skills actually are, just a shame Begley could still walk of the ground.

Fkwit!!

 

[thesouthernend]

The most interesting comment to come out of all of this was from Peter Schwab, he stated that the ball must be the first objective, now in many aspects of play that is just crap. The full forward will as his first move push off the fullback, then lead, players will bump each other to get position to get to the ball, their first objective is to get rid of their opposition, so as to get first use of the ball. And you wonder why the hawks finished where they did.

Basketball here we come.

 

[campbell]

The most interesting comment to come out of all of this was Peter Schwab, he stated that the ball must be the first objective, now in many aspects of play that is just crap. The full forward will as his first move push off the fullback, then lead, players will bump each other to get position to get to the ball, their first objective is to get rid of their opposition, so as to get first use of the ball. You wonder why the hawks finished where they did.

Basketball here we come.

Twit.

Hwne a player has his head over the pill.He is to be protected at all costs, its the fabricc of the game. If you have thugs like Pickett going out to take out the player with his head over the ball, instead of going for the ball. Then we will have severe injuries and no juniors playing within 5 years.

 

[portentous]

Fkwit!!

How astute of you......

 

[thesouthernend]

Twit.

Hwne a player has his head over the pill.He is to be protected at all costs, its the fabricc of the game. If you have thugs like Pickett going out to take out the player with his head over the ball, instead of going for the ball. Then we will have severe injuries and no juniors playing within 5 years.

Just look at what happens in every game, first you remove the opposition's threat then you get the ball, very simple, happens every minute of every game. What game are you watching?
I do not understand what HWNE is, fabricc is spelt fabric,

 

[relapse]

Get over it people. Byron has done the crime and now he will do the time.

Ruthlessness wins Premierships. Nothing should stand in the way. If there is a head over the ball - knock it clean off. Nobody remembers suspensions - but they sure remember who lifted the cup.

And what an intelligent football support you must be

 

[tapestry]

The most interesting comment to come out of all of this was from Peter Schwab, he stated that the ball must be the first objective, now in many aspects of play that is just crap. The full forward will as his first move push off the fullback, then lead, players will bump each other to get position to get to the ball, their first objective is to get rid of their opposition, so as to get first use of the ball. And you wonder why the hawks finished where they did.

Basketball here we come.

Sorry to invade your board/thread Crows fans, this stuff is just really getting my goat. Is this the way Port folk generally are? You've got my sympathies if it is.

Now, southernend. If you believe that you also must believe that grass is pink with yellow stripes and not green like the rest of us think.

If you were correct that would mean that at any time, any given day, at any place, we could put a FF and FB in goal square somewhere with no other players or umpires or even a ball in sight, and the first thing that would happen is the FF would physically dispose of the FB. ********ing ridiculous that that isn't it?

Or that during a game while the ball is down the other end the same would be going on. Again that is ridiculous.

Now in reality when this does actually happen it is because THE FF WANTS THE BALL. That is their FIRST objective, the jostling is action they create to reach their objective.

By all accounts getting the ball was the bye-product of removing Begley for Pickett and not the other way round like it should have been. That is why those comments were made by Schwab.

 

[relapse]

The most interesting comment to come out of all of this was from Peter Schwab, he stated that the ball must be the first objective, now in many aspects of play that is just crap. The full forward will as his first move push off the fullback, then lead, players will bump each other to get position to get to the ball, their first objective is to get rid of their opposition, so as to get first use of the ball. And you wonder why the hawks finished where they did.

Basketball here we come.

No he said when the ball is in dispute, fullbacks and full fowards josting is totally different.

The point Schwab made was valid Belgey was down over the ball he did not have possession of the ball, the ball was in dispute an opposition player's main intention should be trying to win that ball not using it as an opportunity to lay a hit on someone.

 

[Stiffy_18]

No he said when the ball is in dispute, fullbacks and full fowards josting is totally different.

The point Schwab made was valid Belgey was down over the ball he did not have possession of the ball, the ball was in dispute an opposition player's main intention should be trying to win that ball not using it as an opportunity to lay a hit on someone.

See but some Port supporters believe its Begley's fault he got cleaned up because he fumbled the ball

Fair dinkum, some of them are as thick as bricks

 

[blighty]

But again. 2 bad bumps in 6 1/2 years isnt that bad when you consider Jon Brown has clocked what? 6 different people in the past 12 months despite seemingly countless warnings from the tribunal, warnings from his coach and countless articles thrashing his name in the media.

From Byrons point of view...before this he had only ever injured one person in his AFL career with a shirtfront, which was 6 1/2 years ago and has laid maybe 20 solid fair bumps since then and had never been reported for one of them so why would he stop? If he was in Browns situation where he had been reported and suspended 5 times in a year for these bumps and been told and thrashed numerous times by the tribunal, his coach and the media then I could see your point of "when will he learn" a lot clearer. Realistically, ive seen just as many people injured from Voss shirtfronts than from Picketts. Thinking back to Alan Richardson at the Gabba in about...94ish on the wing where Richardosn was out before he hit the ground and Peverill at Telstra Dome 3 years or so back where Sheedy opened his mouth before the match that he wanted to see the Bombers hurt some bodies.

After finally having a chance to see the replay of it and rewind and watch it about 20 times over, it did look very bad. Trying to think from Byrons point of view, i dont think he intentionally aimed for his head with the idea of trying to take his head off...i think he expected him to move off even at the last second, which is why he went thru with it. Ive thought about it a lot, but if Begley had one grabbed that ball and Pickett went thru and did exactly what he did anyway, he would have collected Begley in the side, which would have knocked the ball free and given Port a shot at sealing the game. I think Byron was expecting Begley to turn his body either because he had the ball or for bracing for the impact but it never happened. Or maybe im just being too leniant on him.
This isnt the first example of a bump like this. There have been quite similar bumps in the past few years. Two that instnatly come to mind is one of the Scott brothers being knocked out from a similar incident i think last year (got bumped from headon with his head down), as well as Roger James being taken out by Mark Bolton in the 2002 Semi Final with an almost carbon copy bump where Bolton lined him up from 10 metres away and thrust his hip directly on top of James head, yet there was hardly any of the hype that there was around this one. Maybe its because it wasnt Byron Pickett doing those bumps.

I dont know how many times it has to be repeated for you port supporters to wake up....Pickett has smashed about 5 or 6 players in his career...If you can read & comprehend, Walls Parkin & many other well known football experts have stated he's nothing more than a gutless sniper who wont go near a pack because he's ********e scared but picks off blokes who make the ball the object & whose vision is on the ball....in all the cases he's been involved in he's either gone past the ball or hit the player in disposing of the ball as he did with Burton on Sunday night.
I attended the game Sunday night with two 250 game ex SANFL umpires...they were amazed at the number of incidents where Pickett was hitting Crows players with late tackles without the umpires doing anything
about it.
It's been the same in the AFL...spineless umpiring & video reviewing...make no mistake this gutless bastard was on notice...it's going to make the rest of the season fun to watch....any money you like he'll get another serve before the season ends...you think he'll change ...dont kid yourself...he plays as if he's expecting someone to kill him , that's how scared he is....as Parkin said 12 months ago theres lots of blokes with long memories just waiting for him to lose a yard or two....