Pickett = Cheat

[Mong]

Mark Bickley is not a sniper. It was Wakelin's fault that he didn't run away from Bickley. Instead he ran into Bickley's forearm. It was Wakelin's fault that he had his face smashed in, not Bickleys

Gold.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Burton did not get his black eye at that point. Go and look at the tape and see for yourself. I did work with his sister at that time and that is exactly what she told me. Whether AFC told him to say what he did at the tribunal or whether he sought to justify his lying I can't judge, but lie he did!

I actually watched that game a couple of days ago and he got up with a black eye from that incident. You lot are seriously delusional if you think Monty was innocent there.

 

[Mong]

No it is not a coincidence! There is bad blood between the two of them since Burton jumped into Montgomery's back during the game Wakelin was injured by Bickley. Montgomery retaliated by trying to hit Burton while they were still on the ground. Burton lied at the tribunal stating that Monty had punched him in the face. Again look at the tape of the incident. Montgomery told the truth at the tribunal stating he had tried to hit Burton but missed.

Haha....let me guess, the Crows runner went out with black paint and paint brush and painted Burton's eye black straight after that incident.

You guys are hilarious.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

I actually watched that game a couple of days ago and he got up with a black eye from that incident. You lot are seriously delusional if you think Monty was innocent there.

Wrong. And yet again I remind you that Burton's sister acknowledged to me that he had lied at the tribunal.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Wrong. And yet again I remind you that Burton's sister acknowledged to me that he had lied at the tribunal.

So tell me genius how did he get a black eye???? He ran into Monty's fist??????

And the sister story as as belieavbe as the scenario I posted earlier.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Haha....let me guess, the Crows runner went out with black paint and paint brush and painted Burton's eye black straight after that incident.

You guys are hilarious.

Gold

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Tell me if you remember the Smart incident on Salmon whether you think he was not guilty of intent.

I posted in cold blood and am adamant in my view of Smart's action. I raised it at this point because of SpringChokes cheap shot about Port needing to find another sniper. I'm saying look in your back yard before implying that this is Ports approach. It's a body contact sport, occasionally players step over the line. I believe Pickett did that in that he was reckless and caused danger of serious injury. But when someone like SC starts heading down the path he did with that post well then it's time to look at other incidents involving your own players. If you are going to make those assertions about Port's approach the same standard should be applied to your own club.

Yeah it was a snipe but a snipe that has a fair amount of truth to it.

I find it hard to see how a guy who wrote on the Port board "a crows supporter is a Port supporter who has had the ******** kicked out of him" should be so offended by my comment??

 

[rooboy]

Just wondering why these pious port jerks have not mentioned Shaun Burgoynes hit on Basset, or for that matter their teams impeccable past with players like Carr, Hardwicke, Montgomery, not to mention in years gone by....Dave Grainger, Ray Hayes Bomber Clifford, Keith Spencer, Chicken Hayes etc etc. Let's face it they are dirty pricks and have always been so.Pickett just adds to a long honour roll.

Keerist, they are the most hypocritical ********ers alive.

 

[lozstar]

Just wondering why these pious port jerks have not mentioned Shaun Burgoynes hit on Basset, or for that matter their teams impeccable past with players like Carr, Hardwicke, Montgomery, not to mention in years gone by....Dave Grainger, Ray Hayes Bomber Clifford, Keith Spencer, Chicken Hayes etc etc. Let's face it they are dirty pricks and have always been so.Pickett just adds to a long honour roll.

Keerist, they are the most hypocritical ********ers alive.

their memory must only go up to bickley's hit on wakelin..

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Just wondering why these pious port jerks have not mentioned Shaun Burgoynes hit on Basset, or for that matter their teams impeccable past with players like Carr, Hardwicke, Montgomery, not to mention in years gone by....Dave Grainger, Ray Hayes Bomber Clifford, Keith Spencer, Chicken Hayes etc etc. Let's face it they are dirty pricks and have always been so.Pickett just adds to a long honour roll.

Keerist, they are the most hypocritical ********ers alive.

You forgot to add Primus, Wilson, P Burgoyne, Francou.....

 

[arrowman]

As I said in an earlier post I responded to SpringChoke going down the path of labelling Port's approach as sniping. He said he was wondering to whom Mark Williams would turn to do the job. I made the point with two concrete examples that Adelaide has some skeletons rattling in the closet.

And your point is? You accused Bickley and Smart of being snipers, I (and others) have challenged that, and you have come up with nothing except to repeat the assertion and talk about the one incident each has been involved with.

No I didn't bring up Smart's trash talking and Bickley's attitude in showdowns when challenged, I brought them up in my original post.

Nice dodge, and irrelevant. Original post, after challenge - whatever - see above.

In fact when I mentioned Smart's trash talking I described him as a clown...

And yet, the words of this "clown" (ie not to be taken seriously) reveal him to be a sniper.

and then went on to discuss his very serious offence against Salmon.

And I have not disputed the seriousness of that offence, that still doesn't make Smart a "sniper".

You are wrong in your assertions about Pickett showing "a reckless disregard on may occasions"...

...OK, let's leave Pickett out of this, to keep it clear.

Bottom line - you acuse Bickley and Smart of being snipers, you produce no evidence to support that claim (unless it is true that every player who has ever been reported is a "sniper") and you resort to pedantry about which post is which, to avoid the challenge.

Once again, I made it very clear that my post was in response to the rubbish wheeled out by SpringChoke. People in glass houses....

OK, so - it's OK to accuse Bickley and Smart of being snipers, without evidence, and it's OK to refuse to back up that accusation when challenged - because SpringChoke said some bad things about Pickett and Port. Oh, OK....

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

And your point is? You accused Bickley and Smart of being snipers, I (and others) have challenged that, and you have come up with nothing except to repeat the assertion and talk about the one incident each has been involved with.
Nice dodge, and irrelevant. Original post, after challenge - whatever - see above.
And yet, the words of this "clown" (ie not to be taken seriously) reveal him to be a sniper.
And I have not disputed the seriousness of that offence, that still doesn't make Smart a "sniper".
...OK, let's leave Pickett out of this, to keep it clear.

Bottom line - you acuse Bickley and Smart of being snipers, you produce no evidence to support that claim (unless it is true that every player who has ever been reported is a "sniper") and you resort to pedantry about which post is which, to avoid the challenge.
OK, so - it's OK to accuse Bickley and Smart of being snipers, without evidence, and it's OK to refuse to back up that accusation when challenged - because SpringChoke said some bad things about Pickett and Port. Oh, OK....

Game Set Match Arrowman.

Take a hike Toots, Arrowman has just bent you over.

 

[Macca19]

Exactly.

To those pap supporters that are crying "not fair" well if you are honest with yourselves you will admit that Pickett's only purpose in this incident was to do as much damage to the body of Begley as he possibly could, not once did he change target in spite of the ball being some distance in front of Begley & he has now in my opinion received his just deserts.

Pickett wanted to hip and shoulder him. You wont find many people that disagree that he lined up a hip and shoulder from a fair way away and that was his sole intention. However, the ball was not metres in front of Begley. Some clowns here have suggested the ball was 10 metres away. It was only about a metre and a half away from Begley. This is not some excuse, its a fact of what happened. I strongly disagree with the view that many hold here that Picketts sole intention was to hit Begley as hard as possible in the head and cause as much damage as he could.

If Picketts sole intention was to hit Begley as hard as he could on top of his head and want to put him in a wheel chair then he would not have apologised straight after the game and he would have pleaded not guilty at the tribunal.

 

[Macca19]

Toots, if you want to talk about snipers and player attitude changes for Showdows what about Montgomery?

3 times he has been reported for striking vs the Crows and all three times against Burton! You think this is a coincidence? I dont think so.

Once in the Bickley Showdown. This showdown. When was the other time?

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Once in the Bickley Showdown. This showdown. When was the other time?

Im not sure as I was overseas for a while and missed a fair old chunk of the footy in recent times.

I was just mentioning what was stated on the news.

 

[Macca19]

On a further note I think its a joke that the Wizard cup games can be used as suspension on a player.

I think its a joke that suspension SHOULDNT be able to be played out during the pre season. If you get reported in the pre season, its only logical that you should then miss the following games....not be able to play the rest of the pre season matches but then miss the first few rounds of the normal season.

This is not limited to the Pickett case but I think it highly disadvantages the bad sides like Hawthorn losing Mitchell for round one whilst Carlton will have Camporeale.

I think a player suspended throughout the Wizzer should be able to finish the Wizzer but then their suspension counts when the season starts.

See i find that defies all sorts of logic. If you can get reported and suspended in the pre season cup then you should be able to play out that suspension in the pre season cup. If this means that players can play out suspensions in the country trials as well then so be it. If that means that thr tribunal has to enlarge suspensions so they still miss part of the regular season then so be it.

 

[arrowman]

Take a hike Toots, Arrowman has just bent you over.

Thanks, but ... Eeeewww....

 

[Macca19]

Just wondering why these pious port jerks have not mentioned Shaun Burgoynes hit on Basset, or for that matter their teams impeccable past with players like Carr, Hardwicke, Montgomery, not to mention in years gone by....Dave Grainger, Ray Hayes Bomber Clifford, Keith Spencer, Chicken Hayes etc etc. Let's face it they are dirty pricks and have always been so.Pickett just adds to a long honour roll.

Keerist, they are the most hypocritical ********ers alive.

just about every poster on this board has had a go at us for 'bringing up the past which has nothing to do with this incident', yet you bring up stuff and players from 25-50 years ago. Hypocricy at its best.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

I think its a joke that suspension SHOULDNT be able to be played out during the pre season. If you get reported in the pre season, its only logical that you should then miss the following games....not be able to play the rest of the pre season matches but then miss the first few rounds of the normal season.



See i find that defies all sorts of logic. If you can get reported and suspended in the pre season cup then you should be able to play out that suspension in the pre season cup. If this means that players can play out suspensions in the country trials as well then so be it. If that means that thr tribunal has to enlarge suspensions so they still miss part of the regular season then so be it.

Seems we will have to agree with disagree on this one, I dont think a premiership game should equal a trial game, if this is the case then trial games should count towards a players career games.

 

[jo172]

I'm just wondering, i no longer think Pickett is a cheat, he's just a raging drunk idiot.

The REAL cheat is .......
















Montgometry

You cannot hit the sam player in 3 of your last 4 encounters by accident, any off season indescretions about him we should know about?

 

[noddy]

Pickett wanted to hip and shoulder him. You wont find many people that disagree that he lined up a hip and shoulder from a fair way away and that was his sole intention. However, the ball was not metres in front of Begley. Some clowns here have suggested the ball was 10 metres away. It was only about a metre and a half away from Begley. This is not some excuse, its a fact of what happened. I strongly disagree with the view that many hold here that Picketts sole intention was to hit Begley as hard as possible in the head and cause as much damage as he could.

If Picketts sole intention was to hit Begley as hard as he could on top of his head and want to put him in a wheel chair then he would not have apologised straight after the game and he would have pleaded not guilty at the tribunal.

I definitely did not say he aimed for the head but what i did say & i'll say it till the horses come home is that Pickett's main intention was to do as much damage to an opponents body as he could while that player was in a very vulnerable position, & that Macca is a cowardly act in anyones language.

Thank god it was just the upper shoulder he hit & not the head/neck region.

 

[Macca19]

When was this third Monty hit on Burton everyone is going on about??

FOr the life of me I can only think of the obvious two -
The one in the bickley game
The one on the weekend.

When was the other one? It wasnt Round 22 last year. So it must have been Round 22 the year before. I must get out the video of that game because I cant remember Monty getting reported in that game.

 

[tredders16]

Spare me the pathetic crap.

You all rubish Bickley for one indisgression of which he was as guilty as sin. Well how many times has bickley been suspunded in his entire career??????

Some of you lot need some serious phsychological help because your reasoning stinks of hypocrisy.

Hmmmmm!!! I was a Crows season ticket holder from 1991 to 1996 and the record of No.26 is not as squeaky clean as most people would expect. I haven't got the stats in front of me(I have looked everywhere) but I do remember him getting suspended a couple of times for striking. He would probably head the list for most games lost due to suspension at Adelaide, but he has also played the second most amount of games(272) as well. So it probably evens out to Eddie Hockings career of games out suspended/played.

Can you fill me in Stiffmeister? Where is that damn Millers Guide when you need it?

As I have said before Byron was guilty and should have got four, but six makes him a bit of a tribunal scapegoat, I believe.

If only Begley had picked up the ball and took off without fumbling Byron would have missed him and the siren would have sounded about sixty seconds later.

Life's like that sometimes.

 

[Mong]

When was this third Monty hit on Burton everyone is going on about??

FOr the life of me I can only think of the obvious two -
The one in the bickley game
The one on the weekend.

When was the other one? It wasnt Round 22 last year. So it must have been Round 22 the year before. I must get out the video of that game because I cant remember Monty getting reported in that game.

I can't tell you either but on SEN some Victorian radio announcer said it's happened three times all against Burton.

 

[Mong]

Hmmmmm!!! I was a Crows season ticket holder from 1991 to 1996 and the record of No.26 is not as squeaky clean as most people would expect. I haven't got the stats in front of me(I have looked everywhere) but I do remember him getting suspended a couple of times for striking. He would probably head the list for most games lost due to suspension at Adelaide, but he has also played the second most amount of games(272) as well. So it probably evens out to Eddie Hockings career of games out suspended/played.

Bickley has been suspended before. It was a long time ago in a wet game where the opposition player went to his knees and Bickley ran past and his arm caught him across the face. Very similar to Sam Mitchell's incident this round.