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She ate it
I shouldn't laugh. But I did.
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She ate it
I feel a bit bad about the body shaming nature of the comment. But I think she's one of the no-hopers keeping us mediocre so * itI shouldn't laugh. But I did.
Have you ever come the conclusion that the list of players we have had the last 5 years wasn't as good as we all thought? You are on every social media platform bagging the club non stop and hierachy, but not once have you realized that the list of players we had share as much blame as Hinkley, Koch and everyone else.Not a good look that Jonas comes out saying no change to co-captains yet Hamish speaks to the media wanting to be captain. I smell internal problems with the playing group
Hinkley Voss Davies Kochie KT Vanstone have taken us completely backwards
Which crop of senior players do we blame? which of the 50 that we have turned over since he got here do we blame?Have you ever come the conclusion that the list of players we have had the last 5 years wasn't as good as we all thought? You are on every social media platform bagging the club non stop and hierachy, but not once have you realized that the list of players we had share as much blame as Hinkley, Koch and everyone else.
We get it you don't like Hinkley, or Koch etc. No worries but blame the senior players for their failures as well, it isn't all on the coaches and board. The players have had every tool available and achieved nothing.
Nearly all of them basically. Besides Boak, Westhoff and Robbie Gray who have performed consistently and above or to expectation out of the whole heap we've had. You can't really say that about many of the others, they've all had a good season or two but consistently they don't perform, hence we've always been a middle rung side since 2014.Which crop of senior players do we blame? which of the 50 that we have turned over since he got here do we blame?
Have you ever come the conclusion that the list of players we have had the last 5 years wasn't as good as we all thought? You are on every social media platform bagging the club non stop and hierachy, but not once have you realized that the list of players we had share as much blame as Hinkley, Koch and everyone else.
We get it you don't like Hinkley, or Koch etc. No worries but blame the senior players for their failures as well, it isn't all on the coaches and board. The players have had every tool available and achieved nothing.
Gavin Wanganeen is also on the board but let's single out Amanda Vanstone for reasons.
Have you ever come the conclusion that the list of players we have had the last 5 years wasn't as good as we all thought? You are on every social media platform bagging the club non stop and hierachy, but not once have you realized that the list of players we had share as much blame as Hinkley, Koch and everyone else.
We get it you don't like Hinkley, or Koch etc. No worries but blame the senior players for their failures as well, it isn't all on the coaches and board. The players have had every tool available and achieved nothing.
So do the players that's my point. They aren't paid 50 grand a year either....So the same Hinkley that has missed finals in 4 of the past 5 years despite having a fully funded footy department and the players he’s wanted. If you've under performed for 5 years in a row while being on around $800k a year, you deserve to be criticised on every day of the year.
Wanganeen has been on the board since February 2019 so he would have been able to have just as much say in not sacking Hinkley at the end of the 2019 season as Vanstone.So how long has Vanstone been on the board? Gavin five minutes I’d say those I’ve mentioned have far more accountability to be questioned
Wanganeen has been on the board since February 2019 so he would have been able to have just as much say in not sacking Hinkley at the end of the 2019 season as Vanstone.
What about all of the other board members who have been around for years? Why is it that you think Vanstone is the only one who should be held accountable for accepting mediocrity?
Good post. I have Ilias on ignore for that exact same reason.Have you ever come the conclusion that the list of players we have had the last 5 years wasn't as good as we all thought? You are on every social media platform bagging the club non stop and hierachy, but not once have you realized that the list of players we had share as much blame as Hinkley, Koch and everyone else.
We get it you don't like Hinkley, or Koch etc. No worries but blame the senior players for their failures as well, it isn't all on the coaches and board. The players have had every tool available and achieved nothing.
I don't disagree with the sentiment about Hinkley at all. He has under performed as a coach with what he's had to work with, and the recruits we have given him and everything else. That's not my issueEvery tool available?
How about a competent coach?
If we change coaches and then we still struggle I will be willing to put more heat on the players.
Just like I do with Ken as he has changed players and is still getting the same result.
Who has let them get away with consistently underperforming for the last five years?...
My point is the senior players get away with what they've dished up the last 5 years. ....
When do players push themselves? The top level of players are coached well to a degree but they have personal drive and elite standards in themselves to get to the top and stay there. Besides Boak, Robbie and Westhoff who amongst our senior group has that drive and determination you can see? The list after those three drops off significantly.Who has let them get away with consistently underperforming for the last five years?
Whose job is it to make the players accountable?
"we're coached by Hinkley," - The constant throughout. Alyx's list of players in and out shows it's not a lingering core of slackers. Sure the players aren't faultless or the best in the AFL, but have been top 4 (end of Home and Away season) worthy more than once and should have been in the 8, even if the bottom part, every season.When do players push themselves? The top level of players are coached well to a degree but they have personal drive and elite standards in themselves to get to the top and stay there. Besides Boak, Robbie and Westhoff who amongst our senior group has that drive and determination you can see? The list after those three drops off significantly.
It seems it's always someone or something else's fault with this group. Oh we had ASADA suspensions this year, we've had injuries that year, we're coached by Hinkley, the fans are to hard on us and whatever else has been used and said over 5 years. That's as big of a part of the reason we are middle of the pack, on top of Hinkley. But it's never mentioned.
I never saw Hawthorn in their run whinge about anything, they had elite standards amongst the playing group and in their leaders on field that drove them, on top of Clarkson, ditto Geelong, Sydney were the same.
We've failed in that regard.
I'm not disputing any of that, I agree with the whole Hinkley sentiment."we're coached by Hinkley," - The constant throughout. Alyx's list of players in and out shows it's not a lingering core of slackers. Sure the players are faultless or the best in the AFL, but have been top 4 (end of Home and Away season) worthy more than once and should have been in the 8, even if the bottom part, every season.
Players push themselves when they know that anything less is not acceptable. The players certainly aren't blameless but a culture were coasting along and being gifted games and new contracts is the norm is not the players fault.When do players push themselves? The top level of players are coached well to a degree but they have personal drive and elite standards in themselves to get to the top and stay there. Besides Boak, Robbie and Westhoff who amongst our senior group has that drive and determination you can see? The list after those three drops off significantly.
It seems it's always someone or something else's fault with this group. Oh we had ASADA suspensions this year, we've had injuries that year, we're coached by Hinkley, the fans are to hard on us and whatever else has been used and said over 5 years. That's as big of a part of the reason we are middle of the pack, on top of Hinkley. But it's never mentioned.
I never saw Hawthorn in their run whinge about anything, they had elite standards amongst the playing group and in their leaders on field that drove them, on top of Clarkson, ditto Geelong, Sydney were the same.
We've failed in that regard.
Good post. I have Ilias on ignore for that exact same reason.
No one said we should ignore Ken. Not everyone that doesn't share your opinion is a Hinkley apologist or something of that ilk.Hinkley hasn't accomplished anything and his choices are baffling. 2015-2019: Five years without a finals win yep we should ignore Ken? We should just accept excuses of player blaming
No one said we should ignore Ken. Not everyone that doesn't share your opinion is a Hinkley apologist or something of that ilk.
There's other factors there on top of Hinkley as well, that's the point.