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I think senior leadership may sit him down. Having a cig when you're on $200,000 a year with the main part of your job is to set elite practice standards with elite fitness. And that's pretty much why you're there.

Plus, 12 weeks away from a game.

I hope he gets reamed by his peers.
 
I think senior leadership may sit him down. Having a cig when you're on $200,000 a year with the main part of your job is to set elite practice standards with elite fitness. And that's pretty much why you're there.

Plus, 12 weeks away from a game.

I hope he gets reamed.

In 2 years he has come from a nobody worrying about a paycheck to earning 200k+ a year at 24.

No doubt he will get a talking to but smoking within the AFL is more common than you think.
 

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I think senior leadership may sit him down. Having a cig when you're on $200,000 a year with the main part of your job is to set elite practice standards with elite fitness. And that's pretty much why you're there.

Plus, 12 weeks away from a game.

I hope he gets reamed by his peers.
Has he gone and bashed or shot someone, get over it. If he doesn't perform fair enough.
 
I think senior leadership may sit him down.

They would have to sit quite a few other players down. He's not the only Swans player that likes the odd puff.
 
Personally I find smoking an absolutely disgusting and dangerous habit. It's killed people close to me and deserves the distain and most negative image possible. Vile, putrid, disgusting and harmful... There is actually no point to smoking apart from thinking it's relaxing you (it's not - The deep breaths are, the nicotine and other chemicals are raising your blood pressure) or thinking it's "cool" or a necessary part of a social situation (vanity they call it).

HOWEVER, even given my massive dislike of smoking I believe every person (Dane included) has the absolute right to smoke or do whatever they see fit with his/her body. So long as they aren't breaking any rules/laws (e.g. Player group imposed etc) or producing negative outcomes (e.g. passive smoking with those not wanting to inhale such stuff) then so be it. Why not let his hair down before the season proper begins again. If he wasn't playing at such a level it wouldn't be a problem with most people.
 
Personally I find smoking an absolutely disgusting and dangerous habit. It's killed people close to me and deserves the distain and most negative image possible. Vile, putrid, disgusting and harmful... There is actually no point to smoking apart from thinking it's relaxing you (it's not - The deep breaths are, the nicotine and other chemicals are raising your blood pressure) or thinking it's "cool" or a necessary part of a social situation (vanity they call it).

HOWEVER, even given my massive dislike of smoking I believe every person (Dane included) has the absolute right to smoke or do whatever they see fit with his/her body. So long as they aren't breaking any rules/laws (e.g. Player group imposed etc) or producing negative outcomes (e.g. passive smoking with those not wanting to inhale such stuff) then so be it. Why not let his hair down before the season proper begins again. If he wasn't playing at such a level it wouldn't be a problem with most people.

I agree that people should be allowed to smoke if they want but there is a reason why an Olympic marathon runner does not smoke or any kind of endurance athlete because it kills a persons endurance.

By means of a 12-minute field test, the effect of cigarette smoking on endurance performance was measured in 419 airmen before and after six weeks of basic training. In 47 airmen, cardiopulmonary indexes also were obtained during maximal treadmill performance. Field testing showed that endurance performance was inversely related to the number of cigarettes smoked daily and the duration of smoking. The training response also was impaired significantly in the smokers. During treadmill studies, smokers had a decrease in respiratory minute volume and a lower oxygen consumption at equivalent heart rates than nonsmokers. Further statistical studies demonstrated not only the independent effect of smoking, but also the effect of prior athletic history and physical characteristics on endurance performance. The latter effects become less significant as physical training progressed.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=337378

What is the impact of smoking on runners?
Now on to the more important topic: how does running impact your performance as a runner. Smoking cigarettes does several things that runners will want to avoid. Smoking increases airway resistance in the lungs, it lowers oxygen absorption by the blood, and it reduces physical endurance. Taken in combination, all of these factors are limiters to performance in running.

Runners need healthy lungs to pull as much oxygen as possible out of the air around them. Oxygen is transferred in the lungs to the blood, which then transports it to working muscles. The muscles need the oxygen to produce energy. By constricting the airways in the lungs and lowering blood absorption of oxygen, the muscles are supplied less of what they need to do their job. This diminishes performance, adds to fatigue and decreases endurance.

Airway resistance –Inhalation of smoke from a cigarette can cause a two to three-fold increase in airways resistance, the rate at which air moves in and out of the lungs. Smoking also causes chronic swelling of the mucous membranes of the airways, which adds to airways resistance. The tar in cigarette smoke adds to airways resistance. This tar coats the lungs, reducing the elasticity of the air sacs and resulting in the absorption of less oxygen into the bloodstream.

Lowered oxygen absorption — oxygen is transported in the blood by attaching to the hemoglobin within red blood cells. Oxygen has a great affinity for hemoglobin. However, carbon monoxide has a much greater affinity (200 to 300 times greater than oxygen) and so binds preferentially to hemoglobin. Raised levels of carbon monoxide in the blood also impair the release of oxygen from the blood into the cells. This has a significant effect on heart and other muscle cells where there is a high demand for oxygen.

Reduced Endurance — While exercise training can increase maximal oxygen uptake by up to 20%, smoking can reduce this effect by up to 10%. In a recent study adolescents who had smoked for five days had an 8% reduction in endurance time compared to controls. A US study of more than 3,000 naval personnel found smoking was detrimental to physical fitness even among relatively young, fit individuals. The study also found smokers have lower physical endurance than non or ex-smokers.

All of these factors together should be enough to tell you that if you are interested in increasing your performance as a runner, then quitting smoking is going to be a positive decision for you. As you push your body harder and faster, you need to supply more oxygen to your muscles and smoking cigarettes just diminishes your body’s ability to do that. If you really want to take it to the next level, then you should quit smoking.

https://coachjoeenglish.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/training-what-is-the-impact-of-smoking-on-runners/

With how professional the AFL is and how every single percent in extra performance matters someone who smokes is letting down the rest of the team as far as I am concerned.
 
If they like to smoke then they do not deserve to be AFL players.
What gives you the right to say he doesn't deserve to be an AFL player. I know many Swans who have smoked or even drunk on a Friday night, not overboard but just a couple of beers to settle the nerves and a couple doesn't hurt anyone.
 

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I like the T-Shirt just as much as the smoke hanging from his mouth at this time off year but seriously what can they say , not much when you keep finishing in the top 5 in the time trails ( 3k etc ) and a good performer when on the track. Different story if he came back in shit shape and keep on with the booz/smoking etc.
Seen far worse from AFL players many of times , only a few weeks back in the toilets of CQ nightclub lol
 
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I like T-Shirt just as much as the smoke hanging from his mouth at this time off year but seriously what can they say , not much when you keep finishing in the top 5 in the time trails ( 3k etc ) and a good performer when on the track. Different story if he came back in shit shape and keep on with the booz/smoking etc.
Seen far worse from AFL players many of times , only a few weeks back in the toilets of CQ nightclub lol

1. Smoking is addictive. You can't just stop smoking when the season starts proper
2. His time trial time may be good but it would be better if he stopped smoking
 

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Look obviously if a player was serious about being the best footballer that they can be, you'd expect that they would keep smoking or drinking to a minimum, but there is nothing wrong with it once in a while if it doesn't affect their performance. Even elite athletes can indulge occasionally.
 
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Having a few low carb beers, vaporising some herb what have you.

Neither compares to the ignorance of a well paid athlete who is still establishing him having a dart for the hell of it.
 
It is very very tough for most people. I have never smoked before but of the people that do I do not get the impression they could quit any time they want.

I didn't ask if quitting smoking after being addicted is tough. I know it is, my best friend has tried and failed numerous times. The thing is here is that you seem to be assuming that he smokes regularly (i.e. quitting smoking after being a regular smoker is very, very difficult) when we have no information that states he does. You've seen a couple of photos on one random afternoon that shows him smoking.

As I said before, it's a real overstatement.
 
Well i spoke to soon lol.. honestly i can understand his career and more importantly his life has changed so much in 2yrs.

It's not a massive deal he hasn't hit or gone on a drunken rampage just probably needs a quiet word in his ear.


Must be the C Grade Porno star moustache that does it for him because his status as a footballer is ordinary at best so that makes him an F Grade celeb at best. Just as a matter of interest, Would not wear the Blonde as a broach.
 

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