Training Pre-season Training 2017

[flamingEMBERS]

I hear the 100m sprint is still going

I wonder how many days it took Selwood to run the London marathon? Did they even give him a time?

 

[Eaglespur]

So aside from the knee injury to Tunbridge, the seriousness of which is TBA :

• No Waterman on the training track today, same as Friday. Naitanui the only other player not to put in an appearance.
• Rotham left training early but didn't look to be in any discomfort
• Barrass didn't do any running again but did some marking practice instead which was stopped when Nico called out something along the lines of that's enough, you haven't been well. Others like Karpany and Snadden didn't do the end of session runs either so maybe there's a bit of a bug going round. That's purely a guess though
• More contested drills today then previous sessions - there weren't anymore done after Tunners injury. That may have just been coincidence though.
• Rioli did very well in the contested work getting the ball out to a team mate
• Conversely Lamb copped a rebuke from Simpson for sticking one arm out at the ball
• Jetta voluntarily did some extra running at the end - looked like he had to ask permission from one of the trainers first though
• Venables didn't participate again but it looked like they were stepping up his running. He's a pretty fit looking dude and looks like he'll build up a strong body once he has a couple of preseasons under his belt
• Mitchell left training about 15 minutes before the rest so there was no after school class for Duggan today. (Mitchell has his brownlow thing tomorrow which might explain his slightly earlier departure)

Not much else of note to report without repeating myself from previous sessions

Gotta feel for Tunbridge - it won't surprise me if it does turn out to be an ACL, hopefully it isn't, because it's hard to see how he keeps his spot if it is. I still think there's a half decent footballer there and he's a good size but it looks like his body isn't going to allow him to find out what he's capable of. I didn't see exactly what happened but it just looked as simple as one of the other players taking him to ground in a tackle and as they were finishing up the drill the players started walking back to the middle Tunbridge was lying on the ground holding his leg

Thank you kind sir. Brilliant stuff

 

[boondy]

Sad to hear Tunners done his AFL joint .

 

[Eagle got a win]

Sad to hear Tunners done his AFL joint .

I heard that when the AFL joint goes, that's it and it will never grow back leaving him unable to play AFL

Might still be able to play WAFL because WAFL joints grow a lot easier.

 

[EagleShore]

Sad to hear Tunners done his AFL joint .

Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.

 

[boondy]

Vit C is good

 

[Eaglespur]

Vit C is good

I love tonguing back a good orange juice

 

[swooshacummings]

Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.

In a professional and controlled environment where players are doing the same thing as prescribed by the club....

Genetics is the only factor

 

[swooshacummings]

Vit C is good

Only liposomally

 

[Eaglespur]

In a professional and controlled environment where players are doing the same thing as prescribed by the club....

Genetics is the only factor

You really think sinking piss on the weekends and doing pingas is prescribed by the club docs? They all (most) do it.

I'd say during season they'd be pretty on point with the diets. Off season pingas galore.

 

[SpaceClef]

Pretty much. Not sure if you meant the AFL joint bit, but it works.

As sad as it is for Tunners who we know is injury-prone - and I'm sure we all feel for him and wish him the best in his recovery - it is sobering to again be reminded that an ACL injury can happen at any time, to any player.

In terms of Tunbridge as an injury-prone player - someone should study some of these players who are particularly prone to injury in order to identify whether there are any significant factors of difference in their diets and routines as compared to a control group of relatively soft-tissue-injury-free players.

Yes, genetics is one factor, but I believe the significance of diet is underplayed specifically in terms of collagen formation/maintenance and bone strength...it's unlikely that any player would be vitamin D deficient given their relatively high sun exposure, but perhaps certain individuals are lacking an adequate intake of vitamin C rich foods.

Vitamin C has an important role in collagen synthesis and hence tissue strength and repair. One of the reasons smokers are prone to developing a poor appearance and general health is the fact that smoking strips the body of all available vitamin C ---> poor collagen synthesis = poor wound healing and premature appearance of wrinkles.

Tunners should donate his body to science. Cut him open and dissect his AFL joint

 

[boondy]

Only liposomally

liposomal vit c .
I did that too with acerola cherry and sunflower lecithin to battle cancer . Cancer is in remission . I did have chemo which The liposomal was complementary to . I also juiced 2.5 kg of carrots a day . It kept me so well no one knew I was having 5 days solid chemo every 3 weeks for 6 months . The haemotologist said I was the Chemo king .

 

[FatPizza]

A race for the ages

Yarran still won.

 

[Godfather32]

I hear the 100m sprint is still going

Should finish any day now

 

[swooshacummings]

You really think sinking piss on the weekends and doing pingas is prescribed by the club docs? They all (most) do it.

I'd say during season they'd be pretty on point with the diets. Off season pingas galore.

Didn't realise Tunners only gets injured during the off season?

How do you know Tunners isn't a devout follower of some religion?

Many probably do take drugs but I would like to know how that affects injuries when a player such as Ben Cousins can spend a career on these types of drugs and never quite be injured to the extent of a Tunbridge etc..

 

[Eaglespur]

Didn't realise Tunners only gets injured during the off season?

How do you know Tunners isn't a devout follower of some religion?

Many probably do take drugs but I would like to know how that affects injuries when a player such as Ben Cousins can spend a career on these types of drugs and never quite be injured to the extent of a Tunbridge etc..

I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all

 

[Biggie]

"I stand up here and get the glory, but without a supportive wife, I wouldn't be up here" -Sam Mitchell

"She said let's just do it. Let's go." -Sam Mitchell on his wife's reaction to moving west to the Eagles.

"I don't take her for granted. I did the four-hour flight on my own with the kids yesterday, appreciated her then!" -Sam Mitchell

"I've been so fortunate to have people in my life that have really been in my corner." -Sam Mitchell

"I was doing the best I could. They were the toughest years of my career, no doubt. It was a pretty good effort by my family." Sam MItchell

It's a great club. We just had a huge Christmas party for the kids. I couldn't be happier with the club and where I've landed." -Mitchell

"I'm so rapt about the good news for Roughy. His return is going to be a great moment for next season." -Mitchell

"We've been through some pretty tough stuff. Thank you for everything you've done for me. I'm really proud to share this with you."

Sam Mitchell has concluded his speech - thanking his wife, family, friends, junior footy club and @HawthornFC

 

[swooshacummings]

I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all

I see...

 

[DanWCE]

I think you're missing the point, you said "genetics is the only factor" as if every single player is anal with their training and diet ect which just isnt true. I think there is definitely some merit behind doing research on players diets, pre game rituals, sleeping paterns ect.

Also i instagram tells all

Yep. Look at how Priddis has recovered from his surgery, how durable he has been. Some of the less gifted blokes take nothing for granted and they are the ultimate professionals. They live and breath football and appreciate the opportunity. They devote themselves to their job and bleed for their jumper.

 

[WCErevival]

With Tunbridge I think its the way he plays the game. Bash and crash. Always going at blistering speed. He went through a stage where he played WAFL for a time so he can definitely play but the extra intensity is too much for his body it seems. He's too unconventional.

Priddis is durable due to him being slow. His body isn't quick enough to break itself and he doesn't stress it too much.

 

[ChampRevesby]

With Tunbridge I think its the way he plays the game. Bash and crash. Always going at blistering speed. He went through a stage where he played WAFL for a time so he can definitely play but the extra intensity is too much for his body it seems. He's too unconventional.

Priddis is durable due to him being slow. His body isn't quick enough to break itself and he doesn't stress it too much.

Not really, research suggests that it comes down to genetics. Some people are more injury prone than others.

 

[Xsess]

Its more that the injury gods are arseholes.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Is Mitchell's head photoshopped on here

 

[Dark Sharks]

What's telling, is that l clearly Tunners doesn't take Berocca.

 

[EagleShore]

Not really, research suggests that it comes down to genetics. Some people are more injury prone than others.

Like most other phenomena in this world, it is multifactorial. But I agree that one's genetic code is the biggest factor (nothing will make Priddis run faster).

But the point is, that is an uncontrollable factor. The factors such as dietary composition, sleep habits, social habits etc. which can be controlled warrant further study.

swooshacummings believes everything is controlled by the club (I don't think this is true), including which fruits and vegetables reside in the players' kitchens, and how they consume that produce (ie. do they eat some of the bioflavonoid-rich white pith from citrus fruits?)...

"In 1962, Dr. Robert Cragin used lemon-orange derived bioflavonoids on different groups of athletes in a double blind study. It was found that the athletes taking bioflavonoids experienced less (sic) muscle and joint injuries than the control group. These athletes also recovered quicker from similar injuries than the group of athletes not taking the bioflavonoids. The addition of vitamin C to the bioflavonoids (as seen in citrus fruits) appeared to enhance these effects."

Darling has a unique diet that I'm not sure many others follow. Sure, they'd get advice, but do they heed it? Does the club check? Or do they simply measure outputs (training loads, skin-folds etc.) and retrospectively assess what the player is doing with their diet if there is an issue?