News Pyke Gone

[Betts are off]

The AFL will be all over our "not a termination payment" either way. There is zero chance we can get away with it

As I said in another post, Chapman's not actually telling a lie, its a misdirection. By the terms of a contract if a person in Pykes position chooses to resign it means he voluntarily gives up his right to the payments for the remainder of that contract, as opposed to being fired in which he would be owed monies stipulated by the termination clauses in said contract.

The question is, why would someone contracted for probably in excess of a million dollars, and whose club is going through a review which may well see him terminated (giving him legal rights to pursue that termination payment), and is known to be a shrewd business man outside of footy, voluntarily make such a poor personal business decision?

And the most logical answer is; he hasn't!

The problem is the reporters are not pressing Fagan or Chapman about what they promised Pyke if he was publicly seen as resigning rather then being fired. It may well be nothing, but personally i'm finding it harder and harder to trust these guys about anything now. They've showed their hand, and its always misdirection and 'nothing to see here'

 

[jenny61_99]

Which just makes me think, how the fu** did Trigg survive costing us 6 first and second round draft picks?

There's our premiership. That's where it went.

SIX???

 

[CrowMan90]

SIX???

Im assuming that includes any hypothetical picks for Tippet.

 

[Scorpus]

As I said in another post, Chapman's not actually telling a lie, its a misdirection. By the terms of a contract if a person in Pykes position chooses to resign it means he voluntarily gives up his right to the payments for the remainder of that contract, as opposed to being fired in which he would be owed monies to the stipulation of termination clauses in said contract.

The question is, why would someone contracted for probably in excess of a million dollars, and whose club is going through a review why may see him terminated (giving him legal rights to pursue that termination payment), and is known to be a shrewd business man outside of footy, voluntarily make such a poor personal business decision?

And the most logical answer is; he hasn't!

The problem is the reporters are not pressing Fagan or Chapman about what they promised Pyke if he was publicly seen as resigning rather then being fired.

Yes but there's no way the incentives we offer are going to be outside the soft cap. The AFL are probably investigating us already

 

[slice]

You have a go at me for picking people up on things (Nanny mode you call it) where all you seem to do is pick people about minute s**t they got wrong, and you don't let it go. It's all about ******* point scoring. At least if I'm picking people up it's because i'm expecting them to be half decent human beings with a modicum of respect. All you want to do is argue until you win a ******* point. It's bloody tiresome.

 

[arrowman]

So... did he jump, was he pushed, was it because of the early feedback from the review?

I believe Pyke knew he had lost the trust / confidence of the playing group, and that he would not be able to recover from that. And that therefore he was not the right person to lead the club in 2020. I also believe that he would have worked this out for himself, and would not have needed the review feedback to tell him that (although maybe that feedback might have been a bit stronger than he was expecting.

I think he knew these things because he's not stupid, or arrogant/blinkered. (Some might say that doesn't show in his coaching / selection policy, but I think this is a different thing.)

He may also have had some frustration with the people around him in a sense of "I can't work with these turkeys any more".

Therefore, because he is an honourable man (and quite honestly because he doesn't need the money), and perhaps a little to protect his reputation, he resigned. (And also because it would be in the best interests of the club and the players to get this sorted early.)

I also suspect he wouldn't mind the review being clear to focus on some other targets

In short, I don't think "did he jump, was he pushed, was it the review?" is really much of an issue. I think it's pretty much what you see is what you get - an honourable man, doing the right thing, and especially the right thing by his players. I know that's not what you expect in the AFL but there it is.

 

[Betts are off]

Yes but there's no way the incentives we offer are going to be outside the soft cap. The AFL are probably investigating us already

Mate, when its all said and done, no outcome would surprise me considering the arrogance of this club's board.

I hope you are right. I really do!

 

[Vader]

SIX???

Adelaide "voluntarily" handed back their 1st and 2nd round picks in 2012 and were stripped of them in 2013. That's four picks accounted for.

We also lost the Pond Scum for nothing. The expectation was that he was worth a 1st and 2nd at the absolute minimum. If you choose to include those then it's 6x 1st and 2nd round picks.

 

[Elite Crow]

None so blind as those that refuse to see. That argument had nothing to do with you. But by god you were going to get in the last word. You are the biggest hypocrite of them all.

I can’t be the biggest hypocrite when that mantel is yours.

Let’s look further.

You accuse me of bullying Cap, I made 4 posts on the subject and let him have the last word. I stopped posting on it.

Then you chimed in to bully me to stop when I already had and on a topic that didn’t involve you, see the hypocrisy?

Then instead of stopping the argument with me, you had to have the last word, see the hypocrisy again?

And let’s see if you let this go now, or will that Nanny nagging doo goody hypocritical Jenny take over and you will have to have the last word?

 

[marty36]

So... did he jump, was he pushed, was it because of the early feedback from the review?

I believe Pyke knew he had lost the trust / confidence of the playing group, and that he would not be able to recover from that. And that therefore he was not the right person to lead the club in 2020. I also believe that he would have worked this out for himself, and would not have needed the review feedback to tell him that (although maybe that feedback might have been a bit stronger than he was expecting.

I think he knew these things because he's not stupid, or arrogant/blinkered. (Some might say that doesn't show in his coaching / selection policy, but I think this is a different thing.)

He may also have had some frustration with the people around him in a sense of "I can't work with these turkeys any more".

Therefore, because he is an honourable man (and quite honestly because he doesn't need the money), and perhaps a little to protect his reputation, he resigned. (And also because it would be in the best interests of the club and the players to get this sorted early.)

I also suspect he wouldn't mind the review being clear to focus on some other targets

In short, I don't think "did he jump, was he pushed, was it the review?" is really much of an issue. I think it's pretty much what you see is what you get - an honourable man, doing the right thing, and especially the right thing by his players. I know that's not what you expect in the AFL but there it is.

No one knows now do they

Could he already have another Job in Perth lined up?

 

[Doc_]

So no one else decided the time was also right when Pyke said he was out the door?
Thought we might have got another one today.

 

[1991firstgamer]

Ultimately Sando was correct, with the Crows outperforming Hawthorn in a preliminary final.

Yep if not for one of the most criminal umpire displays in history would have gone to a granny
I think this alone rules out Burns

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[1991firstgamer]

It has to be players leaking to her, based on players talking to each other about what they’ve been saying. There can’t be any other leaks.

If that's the case they are doing it to force changes

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[Big Gazoongas]

Which just makes me think, how the fu** did Trigg survive costing us 6 first and second round draft picks?

There's our premiership. That's where it went.

Because we have the same spineless cowards running the show now as they were back then.

 

[1991firstgamer]

I don't think Burton will be there in 2020.

I agree
The new coach will insist on Burton and Campo given their marching orders

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[Samcro24]

Because we have the same spineless arse-covering unaccountable clueless cowards running the show now as they were back then.

EFA

 

[Big Gazoongas]

It has to be players leaking to her, based on players talking to each other about what they’ve been saying. There can’t be any other leaks.

I'm hoping its the players and I'm hoping they are unloading with both barrels to Pav and Chief to the point the spineless running the club have no choice than to move them on.

Its great news that this is whats coming from the media.

 

[Coopers]

SIX???

Also whatever we would have got in a trade for Tippett. Another first rounder.

 

[subaru]

I hate Chappy as much as the next bloke, but if we take it on face value that it was Don's decision, it's entirely possible that it would still shorten the review. If a big portion of the review was "Find out whether current coach's position is tenable", they can scratch the whole exercise because the decision is already made. You'd hope they're still reviewing the coaches as a whole, but no need to spend time on "Is Pyke right for the job?"

Exactly

No, a poster loosely quoted Chapman and you responded with a quote of your own to disprove their quote and had a crack at them while doing it. And you were wrong, just accept that you're a fully blown apologist, we know it anyway, it's not news, and move on.

You’re doing some excellent doubling down here yourself just quietly

You have a go at me for picking people up on things (Nanny mode you call it) where all you seem to do is pick people about minute s**t they got wrong, and you don't let it go. It's all about ******* point scoring. At least if I'm picking people up it's because i'm expecting them to be half decent human beings with a modicum of respect. All you want to do is argue until you win a ******* point. It's bloody tiresome.

Isn’t it

Jumping @ shadows, conspiracy theory narratives are their forte.
Nothing the club does will ever be enough or right

You can just say I'm right, it's fine.

Your simpleton assessment of things really isn't needed.

Subaru likes this

 

[Elite Crow]

Hey did anyone see what the Port board said today, it was sooo

 

[Big Gazoongas]

Hey did anyone see what the Port board said today, it was sooo

Go on

 

[CrowinNT]

Hey did anyone see what the Port board said today, it was sooo

What in reference to ?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Which just makes me think, how the fu** did Trigg survive costing us 6 first and second round draft picks?

There's our premiership. That's where it went.

Chapman protects the incompetent...

 

[CrowMan90]

Chapman protects the incompetent...

The incompetent protect the incompetent. Not surprisingly.

 

[subaru]

None so blind as those that refuse to see. That argument had nothing to do with you. But by god you were going to get in the last word. You are the biggest hypocrite of them all.

Normal poster - “ I think blah and my opinion is blah based on X Y Z “

Bitter twisted poster “ nah you’re wrong “
- complete with failure to provide any evidence at all other than their opinion

It’s rinse and repeat with these “supporters “