QFA Div 2 North

[AllOrNothing22]

Why will the two kids (Proud and Wilson) be 3’s? They have never played senior footy

From the aflq player points document

d) Category 3: Senior Community Player – 3 Points
i) Player who has played the same or more senior games than reserves games in total over the current and or previous three (3) Seasons, in a Category 3 competition.
ii) Player who has played more reserves/colts games than senior games in a Category 4 competition.

QAFL is a Category 4 comp

 

[LaggingBehind]

From the aflq player points document

d) Category 3: Senior Community Player – 3 Points
i) Player who has played the same or more senior games than reserves games in total over the current and or previous three (3) Seasons, in a Category 3 competition.
ii) Player who has played more reserves/colts games than senior games in a Category 4 competition.

QAFL is a Category 4 comp

I disagree that QAFL Colts (ressies yes, no probs) should be ranked 3 points. I’d reckon outside the top 6 most Colts, who’d probably play some ressies at least anyway, wouldn’t play QAFL ressies or seniors.

It then makes it tough to move to local QFA clubs. Most are just having a go to see how it is. Making them 3 points is just another impediment to help send them out of the game imo.

 

[AllOrNothing22]

I disagree that QAFL Colts (ressies yes, no probs) should be ranked 3 points. I’d reckon outside the top 6 most Colts, who’d probably play some ressies at least anyway, wouldn’t play QAFL ressies or seniors.

It then makes it tough to move to local QFA clubs. Most are just having a go to see how it is. Making them 3 points is just another impediment to help send them out of the game imo.

I agree with you there. A lot of the colts coming through will likely never play a senior QAFL game, so it makes sense that they move to a local QFA club for opportunity.

Bowles will be 4 points and colts that have played little or no QAFL reserves will only be 1 point less.

 

[Gone Akers]

We had a returning junior come back from qafl colts. Missed the 40 games by 3. He played 4 ressies games at qafl level so they made him a 3 pointer. So there points would depend if they’d played qafl seniors/ressies or not.

 

[AllOrNothing22]

We had a returning junior come back from qafl colts. Missed the 40 games by 3. He played 4 ressies games at qafl level so they made him a 3 pointer. So there points would depend if they’d played qafl seniors/ressies or not.

The ressies games would not have mattered, as QAFL ressies and colts are valued the same.

ii) Player who has played more reserves/colts games than senior games in a Category 4 competition.

QAFL is a Category 4 comp

 

[Boxo004]

My only guess it deters QFA clubs from chasing QAFL colts recruiting with a few dollars. But other then that it doesn’t really make sense

 

[freddyfudrucker]

Higher standard of footy than seniors in the lower divisions is the line

 

[Miller1971]

Create an environment where a kid has to go to QAFL to play Colts, as its not offered anywhere else - then just to make the kids life difficult, they are a 3 pointer when they want to go back to QFA Senior footy?

Thats a big steaming pile of you know what and needs fixing.

 

[smy1305]

Higher standard of footy than seniors in the lower divisions is the line

Gee whiz - thats a long bow! Possibly Div 2 - definitely not Div 1 from what I've seen

 

[Miller1971]

Simple fix

If you recruit them out of QAFL Colts while they are still eligible to play Colts, then make them 3 pointers

If you recruit them when they age out of Colts, make them 2.

 

[nWo]

So both of those kids (or at least one) was still 17.5 eligible last year, never played any academy stuff and chooses to test themselves at a different environment and they are classified one point less than a QAFL senior player…,both are barely 18 years old (I think) and this seems a tad excessive points wise.

 

[freddyfudrucker]

Rules is rules

 

[Kath Mandu]

So both of those kids (or at least one) was still 17.5 eligible last year, never played any academy stuff and chooses to test themselves at a different environment and they are classified one point less than a QAFL senior player…,both are barely 18 years old (I think) and this seems a tad excessive points wise.

Very good point.
QAFL obviously need to protect the highest level of football and have a constant supply of players, however if a colt or reserves player is leaving a QAFL club they are probably not going to be consistent senior players for a number of years anyway. Why not let these players go and enjoy football, with the possibility of coming back once they are a bit bigger and up for QAFL standard?

Colts is pumped up to be a higher level than it actually is

 

[Miller1971]

Did you watch the Colts Grand Final?

It was a pretty elite standard, reckon both those sides beat any Div 2 team North or South.

Wouldn't get anywhere near the top end of Div 1 though

 

[LaggingBehind]

Did you watch the Colts Grand Final?

It was a pretty elite standard, reckon both those sides beat any Div 2 team North or South.

Wouldn't get anywhere near the top end of Div 1 though

With that logic Sandgate shouldn’t have gone up to Div 1.

 

[smy1305]

With that logic Sandgate shouldn’t have gone up to Div 1.

Possibly the hawks need to top up their current list to compete well in Div 1.
The Colts GF possibly didn't reflect the week to week strength of those 2 clubs I'd suggest too.

 

[stilloutandabout]

Did you watch the Colts Grand Final?

It was a pretty elite standard, reckon both those sides beat any Div 2 team North or South.

Wouldn't get anywhere near the top end of Div 1 though

Big statement there.
Watched a bit of colts this year and yes they are fit and skillful but as a whole group up against men I'd say Sandgate and Alex would easily account for them.

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[freddyfudrucker]

You ever been to a Div 2 game Miller?

 

[Gone Akers]

You ever been to a Div 2 game Miller?

Doesn’t sound like it

 

[LaggingBehind]

You ever been to a Div 2 game Miller?

Why don’t you invite Miller to your next game Freddy……….and buy the first beer for a change?

 

[Miller1971]

You ever been to a Div 2 game Miller?

Doesn’t sound like it

yes, plenty.

Did you watch the Colts Grand Final? While obviously not reflective of the week to week standard, it was absolutely red hot.

Probably 10 kids out there who have already played a bit of QAFL Senior footy, and about 20 that would play regularly if they were at clubs at the other end of the ladder.

 

[stilloutandabout]

yes, plenty.

Did you watch the Colts Grand Final? While obviously not reflective of the week to week standard, it was absolutely red hot.

Probably 10 kids out there who have already played a bit of QAFL Senior footy, and about 20 that would play regularly if they were at clubs at the other end of the ladder.

I get what you're saying but a couple of colts in a senior men's side doesn't compare to a full team taking on men.
Just because I know Sandgate well not one could go with
Fabian
Lovett
Marolla
Lubke
Truffs king
Overington
Westerberg
Sweeny
Murphy
But it's great that the colts comp is of good quality.
Just a shame it's only qafl.

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[Miller1971]

All due respect to Fabian, who is now pretty old.

Overington and Lovett the only blokes on that list who would get a senior game in the QAFL (other than at Mt Gravatt)

Don't want to go down this rabbit hole though, was more just suggesting that the Colts comp is very strong, especially now its exclusively QAFL

 

[stilloutandabout]

All due respect to Fabian, who is now pretty old.

Overington and Lovett the only blokes on that list who would get a senior game in the QAFL (other than at Mt Gravatt)

Don't want to go down this rabbit hole though, was more just suggesting that the Colts comp is very strong, especially now its exclusively QAFL

I wasn't saying they would play qafl just that a young colts lad would struggle big time on those blokes even in div 2.



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[Wardy09]

So if a 'rep side QAFL Colts' team played a 'rep side Men's Division 2 team'.... who wins?