Toast Quinton Narkle

[thecatattack]

No one did.

Wouldn't say he's better around the goals either. He has 10 career goals.

He can definitely turn into a mid that can kick goals, but not yet.

 

[Seeds]

This is just not true
Narkle has kicked 10 goals in 17 games, that's 0.6 per game. Higgins went at 0.6 from midfield in 2019 while also averaging 28 touches

You are right. My calc was wrong. missed the 5 games from this year he played as a pure mid. still When i count those he is 0.6 per game which puts him above all the others.

over the same period higgins has averaged around 0.5 and his last year was only 0.25.

 

[Seeds]

Wouldn't say he's better around the goals either. He has 10 career goals.

He can definitely turn into a mid that can kick goals, but not yet.

He averages more goals per game then any of the others over the last 3 years despite having more midfield time then all bar higgins. he is certainly in the conversation as best around goals admittedly from a group of players who are all now pretty poor at finding the goals.

 

[gaz love x]

The most telling stat to me: Narkle 17 games, 9 wins 8 losses. Any Geelong player on the 2020 list to play say 10 games for the club have a worse winning percentage than that? The maligned Atkins is 23-12. Zuthrie 11-1-8. Parsons 20-1-14. Players who've basically played in the same era. His offensive output is pretty good but lacking the defensive side so far means we don't win as often when he plays.

 

[Seeds]

The most telling stat to me: Narkle 17 games, 9 wins 8 losses. Any Geelong player on the 2020 list to play say 10 games for the club have a worse winning percentage than that? The maligned Atkins is 23-12. Zuthrie 11-1-8. Parsons 20-1-14. Players who've basically played in the same era. His offensive output is pretty good but lacking the defensive side so far means we don't win as often when he plays.

So constable should be captain then?

ps. Narkle averaged more tackles per game this year then atkins and close and higgins and dalhaus.

 

[gaz love x]

So constable should be captain then?

Constable's 9 games is a fairly small sample size. But yeah it would appear the team has been better able to carry Constable's weakness (endurance) so far than Narkle's. Makes sense because we have a number of good athletes but not many great defensive players in midfield. Narkle is the better prospect for me but he doesn't work in the current side with his current skillset

 

[AM]

What was told to Clark? Conditioning related?

Clark ready to knuckle down for the club he loves

Jordan Clark was disappointed with his 2020 season but is ready to earn back his Hoops

www.geelongcats.com.au

 

[cats_09]

Goals per game.

narkle 0.8
close 0.25
higgins 0.4 (last 2 seasons)
dalhaus 0.5 (last 2 seasons)
atkins 0.25

saying narkle is better at finding the goals then these players is not a controversial statement. He is way ahead and thats even despite the fact he probably spends more time up the ground then all bar higgins.

If we look at just the last 2 seasons, Higgins & Dahlhaus both average 0.5 goals per game compared with Narkle at 0.45

Close is in his first season, and not sure him & Narkle are competing for the same spot in the team - seems a weird comparison

Atkins averaged 0.25 goals across the past 2 seasons, but not sure of his goal kicking credentials & not sure that's why he was selected in the team

Also not sure Narkle has ever been selected for his goal kicking abilities, especially as he's an inside mid

So you may not deem that "saying Narkle is better at finding the goals than those players is not controversial" - and not sure anyone ever said it was controversial, but the reality is that he's not better at finding the goals than the 2 experienced players, though he (as a 4th year player) is marginally better than the first & second year player you choose to compare him to

 

[AM]

Quinton has the talent. Application is where he is wanting.

 

[Spearman]

The most telling stat to me: Narkle 17 games, 9 wins 8 losses. Any Geelong player on the 2020 list to play say 10 games for the club have a worse winning percentage than that? The maligned Atkins is 23-12. Zuthrie 11-1-8. Parsons 20-1-14. Players who've basically played in the same era. His offensive output is pretty good but lacking the defensive side so far means we don't win as often when he plays.

interesting stat

as far as stats go

 

[Seeds]

If we look at just the last 2 seasons, Higgins & Dahlhaus both average 0.5 goals per game compared with Narkle at 0.45

Close is in his first season, and not sure him & Narkle are competing for the same spot in the team - seems a weird comparison

Atkins averaged 0.25 goals across the past 2 seasons, but not sure of his goal kicking credentials & not sure that's why he was selected in the team

Also not sure Narkle has ever been selected for his goal kicking abilities, especially as he's an inside mid

So you may not deem that "saying Narkle is better at finding the goals than those players is not controversial" - and not sure anyone ever said it was controversial, but the reality is that he's not better at finding the goals than the 2 experienced players, though he (as a 4th year player) is marginally better than the first & second year player you choose to compare him to

You look at the last 2 seasons for higgins and dalhaus cos they are aging. what they did when they were much younger is not representative of who they are now. Although dalhaus was even a worse goal scorer 3-4 years ago kicking only 2 goals in one season. But i didnt count that year.


narkle was a pure mid this year. Spent basically no time up foward. But sure go and overweight his midfield games to try to show he isnt great at finding goals. Thats not biasing the results at all.

ps. I was only comparing them on ability to find goals. Someone said he is no motlop at finding the goals. He isnt. But he is better at finding the goals then all our other small fowards bar miers. I was not making a statement about their other abilities as a foward. So all those other points are mute as I wasnt making a statement about them.

 

[Lana]

The most telling stat to me: Narkle 17 games, 9 wins 8 losses. Any Geelong player on the 2020 list to play say 10 games for the club have a worse winning percentage than that? The maligned Atkins is 23-12. Zuthrie 11-1-8. Parsons 20-1-14. Players who've basically played in the same era. His offensive output is pretty good but lacking the defensive side so far means we don't win as often when he plays.

That's attributing way too much influence to Narkle

 

[Tackle_happy]

I would take Narkle over Dahlhaus if you could pick a team.
He's got creativity and makes things happen more so than Dahlhaus.
Would also pick him over Atkins and Close.

Higgins a champion though and has been for over a decade. Probably would have booted 400+ goals if he was a permanent forward pocket.

Dalhaus does the one percenters way better than Narkle. It was evident this year in quite a few games where Narkle couldn't hold on in a tackle and would not push to contests where Dalhaus regularly does. That's not to say that Narkle doesn't have what it takes, but for what is required in the forward line for the cats ... he definitely is not there yet.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Geez, turn it up.

He's not in the same league as Dahlhaus or Higgins.

Though he might be. Some day.

Narkle has never shown anything as a forward, saying hes better than Higgins and Dahl is genuinely laughable.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If the quality of Quinton Narkle

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0.6

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11.4

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5.4

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2.4

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2.4

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0.8

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as a player is seen as a list issue we can't have many other problems...

 

[Drunkcat]

Mite be playing forward in the WAFL still not signed

 

[David the Cat]

Just can't find a place for Narkle as it stands.

Needs a hot pre-season and some stand out performances in 2021 to retain his list spot. Going to be tough for him...but I hope he steps up.

Its 2021 break out, or traded/delisted at season's end I suspect..

 

[Seeds]

Just can't find a place for Narkle as it stands.

Needs a hot pre-season and some stand out performances in 2021 to retain his list spot. Going to be tough for him...but I hope he steps up.

Its 2021 break out, or traded/delisted at season's end I suspect..

Atkins, dalhaus, abletts lost spot, simpsons and maybe even higgins if he continues to deteriorate.

 

[cats_09]

Atkins, dalhaus, abletts lost spot, simpsons and maybe even higgins if he continues to deteriorate.

Has Higgins actually started to deteriorate though?

I know that theoretical all players start to deteriorate at a point, but not sure Higgins is on a clear downward trend at this stage

By the end of last season Atkins lost his spot to Simpson, so technically that's only 1 spot. And having lost his spot up forward, Atkins is now training with the defensive unit,

Ablett has retired but would think that Higgins is slotting into his spot

Cameron & Smith will also slot into the 22 - but who's spot they're taking may be up for debate; one takes the spot vacated by Taylor, but someone else misses is we are to play all 3 recruits

Narkle is coming from outside the 26 as he couldn't even get an emergency spot towards the end of last season, and besides - how many of the above is he actually competing with for a spot?

Considering that Narkle is primarily a midfielder, isn't he more likely to be competing with the likes of Parfitt, Guthrie, Selwood, Menegola, Duncan & Dangerfield for a spot in the final 22? With a Dangerfield currently not 100% there may be a spot open, but otherwise, there's a bit of work for the likes of Narkle & Constable to push themselves from outside the best 26 to having a spot in the best 22, and against younger guys like Stephens who are also going to be pushing for a spot

Hopefully they get a clear run at things and put pressure on the incumbents - but don't think it's going to be an easy team to break into

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Clark ready to knuckle down for the club he loves

Jordan Clark was disappointed with his 2020 season but is ready to earn back his Hoops

www.geelongcats.com.au

Niiice, the first "_______ is training the house down!!" piece for Season 2021. At last some normality is restored to our plague-addled world

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Has Higgins actually started to deteriorate though?

I think his entire club deteriorated last year, which might skew the view of Higgins himself somewhat.

 

[Seeds]

Has Higgins actually started to deteriorate though?

I know that theoretical all players start to deteriorate at a point, but not sure Higgins is on a clear downward trend at this stage

By the end of last season Atkins lost his spot to Simpson, so technically that's only 1 spot. And having lost his spot up forward, Atkins is now training with the defensive unit,

Ablett has retired but would think that Higgins is slotting into his spot

Cameron & Smith will also slot into the 22 - but who's spot they're taking may be up for debate; one takes the spot vacated by Taylor, but someone else misses is we are to play all 3 recruits

Narkle is coming from outside the 26 as he couldn't even get an emergency spot towards the end of last season, and besides - how many of the above is he actually competing with for a spot?

Considering that Narkle is primarily a midfielder, isn't he more likely to be competing with the likes of Parfitt, Guthrie, Selwood, Menegola, Duncan & Dangerfield for a spot in the final 22? With a Dangerfield currently not 100% there may be a spot open, but otherwise, there's a bit of work for the likes of Narkle & Constable to push themselves from outside the best 26 to having a spot in the best 22, and against younger guys like Stephens who are also going to be pushing for a spot

Hopefully they get a clear run at things and put pressure on the incumbents - but don't think it's going to be an easy team to break into

Narkle Was in red hot form in the vfl at the end of last season After recovering from a hamstring injury early in the year. Clearly politics surrounding his future at the club impacted his lack of selection on the emergency list which was frankly bizarre.

Atkins is in the defensive unit? I doubt he will ever play a game again now without a couple of injuries. Too slow to make it as a small defender. Oconnor, bews, stewart and tuohy have those spots with clark also fighting for it.

narkle is a foward mid. you are right in that its tough to break into those mids (i think he can do it if he is fit) but as a foward who goes through mid rotations there is a spot. He has a good sense for finding the goals which we lack in our small fowards other than miers.

higgins is slowing up And he was never quick to begin with. Classy player. Would of been great 5 plus years ago. Josh walker beat him in the best and fairest last year. i think the decline with higgins will come quick.

 

[cats_09]

I think his entire club deteriorated last year, which might skew the view of Higgins himself somewhat.

I'm more concerned about Tuohy than I am Higgins - been battling knee issues the last couple of seasons; can he have the same impact later in the season as he does earlier if the knee(s) is going to continue to be an issue?

He also doesn't seem to have a set position within the side & at times seems to be in the team based on being in the best 22 players on our list and we then try to find a spot for him in the final side

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I think his entire club deteriorated last year, which might skew the view of Higgins himself somewhat.

It's the question that looms over all 3 of the established recruits. Their output was all down last year, but was that an indicator of overall deterioration or just a result of them all playing in pretty crappy teams? You'd have to back (and hope) that Cameron would bounce back given his age and what we paid for him. Higgins and Smith might be close to the cliff, however. Hopefully not another Steven/Jenkins pair.

 

[cats_09]

Narkle Was in red hot form in the vfl at the end of last season After recovering from a hamstring injury early in the year. Clearly politics surrounding his future at the club impacted his lack of selection on the emergency list which was frankly bizarre.

Atkins is in the defensive unit? I doubt he will ever play a game again now without a couple of injuries. Too slow to make it as a small defender. Oconnor, bews, stewart and tuohy have those spots with clark also fighting for it.

narkle is a foward mid. you are right in that its tough to break into those mids (i think he can do it if he is fit) but as a foward who goes through mid rotations there is a spot. He has a good sense for finding the goals which we lack in our small fowards other than miers.

higgins is slowing up And he was never quick to begin with. Classy player. Would of been great 5 plus years ago. Josh walker beat him in the best and fairest last year. i think the decline with higgins will come quick.

No VFL last year, so VFL form from 2019 really isn't relevant - as for the scratch matches though, was there any genuine indication that he was performing at a level warranting senior selection, because I don't recall too many articles or match reviews that were talking up his performances

And I doubt there was any politics regarding his lack of selection or future at the club - if he's form in the scratch matches was such that he was deserving selection while being overlooked, other clubs would have been well aware of the issue and come knocking at trade time. Instead, there was seemingly no interest from other clubs even though they would have been able to pick him up for free as a delisted free agent (it's not like we had offered him a contract that he rejected and doubt we stand in his way of moving on). Plus, the fact that Narkle said he wanted to stay and fight for his spot would suggest that there's no bad blood between the parties or politics at play