Review R6: The Good, Bad and the Ugly vs. GWS Giants

[Southerntakeover]

Can we knock off all the apologising and being gracious towards each other nonsense, its really bringing down the tone of the thread.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Not me. I love the Frogster.

I was time-travel-posting ie I was a few pages behind, responding to posts on that page and new (later) posts coming in at the bottom of the page.

I'm just taking the piss.

 

[George CantStandYa]

The Good:

Barossa Fine Foods Porchetta Roll. Best thing I’ve eaten at the footy and well priced, $12 by memory, only a couple of dollars more than their hotdog which is no comparison.

 

[AFC1990]

Has anyone mentioned, here or in the media, that stain of a player - the self proclaimed Package- and his late, late attempted spoil on Curtin (post concussion test) that ended up being a glancing head blow after DC had marked on hbf. Third quarter I think. Was obvious to us at the ground….

 

[cmndstab]

Nank gave away silly frees, and poor decisions at times. Needs to improve his IQ but still hasn’t played many games yet - that attempted spoil could have been a game changer

Just on this, I had twenty minutes to kill so watched the Kayo mini of the game, and in that moment it's not really Nankervis at fault. Murray goes up and has the sit to spoil the ball, Nankervis is also coming from a different angle but Murray has the prime spot. It's hard to tell on the replay, but it looks like Murray gets just a tiny bit of fist on the ball which sends it over Nankervis' hand. Or maybe Murray just clean misses the ball and it gets through to (and past) Nankervis. Either way, Murray had a clean jump at it and is obviously the one who should be spoiling the ball in that scenario. His mistake.

 

[Captain Furious]

Just on this, I had twenty minutes to kill so watched the Kayo mini of the game, and in that moment it's not really Nankervis at fault. Murray goes up and has the sit to spoil the ball, Nankervis is also coming from a different angle but Murray has the prime spot. It's hard to tell on the replay, but it looks like Murray gets just a tiny bit of fist on the ball which sends it over Nankervis' hand. Or maybe Murray just clean misses the ball and it gets through to (and past) Nankervis. Either way, Murray had a clean jump at it and is obviously the one who should be spoiling the ball in that scenario. His mistake.

Yes but Nank should’ve stayed down with his man in case the ball went over the back - 101 defence; don’t have two players doing one thing. Just like in a 2v2 you don’t have both defenders tackle the one player with the ball, leaving one attacker free to receive the handball. Trust your teammate to do their job but be prepared for if they don’t.

 

[Crows I Am]

ROB reaction games tend to be good.

After his spot is questioned or he's dropped or he comes under some media scrutiny he generally responds with a good display. Was very good today. Controlled the stoppages, took a few decent marks.

The trouble is that he soon settles into his comfort zone again and dishes up pitiful, meek, nothingness.

He's obviously loved at the club, highly respected and admired. Friends with everyone. Is that part of the problem? Reciprocal niceness.

When ROB dishes up one of his blancmange efforts, does he get hauled off at the 15 minute mark of the first quarter and have strips torn off him? Do Baulderstone or VB or Nicks grab him by the collar and shake him, Blight-style?

He'd perhaps benefit from some tough love at times, the occasional rocket. Comfortable ROB sucks. On edge ROB can play the game.

I think having McAndrew in the SANFL will be good for ROB. He knows we now have someone who can legitimately come in and take his spot. The last few years it has just been Strachan as the back up and ROB knew he was only going to come in as the last resort.

He needs that motivation to play well, you heard the comments in the media during the week that McAndrew should come in and take his spot, and then ROB comes out and plays one of his better games this year.

Hopefully McAndrew keeps playing well and keeps the pressure on. Either it will force ROB to continue to play at the higher level, or it will then force the selectors to drop him and give McAndrew an opportunity.

 

[Pugsley]

Faaaaark you must have been a good player ! What level did you play at ?

Div 3 amateurs against clubs like Ethelton and Rosewater.
I grew up hating Port. These clubs made me hate them more.....oh

 

[GreyCrow]

Div 3 amateurs against clubs like Ethelton and Rosewater.
I grew up hating Port. These clubs made me hate them more.....oh

Hawk boy?

 

[Pugsley]

Hawk boy?

No. The club I played for is now folded. The Kangaroos.

 

[hugecannon]

I think having McAndrew in the SANFL will be good for ROB. He knows we now have someone who can legitimately come in and take his spot. The last few years it has just been Strachan as the back up and ROB knew he was only going to come in as the last resort.

He needs that motivation to play well, you heard the comments in the media during the week that McAndrew should come in and take his spot, and then ROB comes out and plays one of his better games this year.

Hopefully McAndrew keeps playing well and keeps the pressure on. Either it will force ROB to continue to play at the higher level, or it will then force the selectors to drop him and give McAndrew an opportunity.

Just drop ROB every 3-4 games and play McAndrew, that will keep him on his toes and not let his standards drop too far

 

[1970crow]

I think having McAndrew in the SANFL will be good for ROB. He knows we now have someone who can legitimately come in and take his spot. The last few years it has just been Strachan as the back up and ROB knew he was only going to come in as the last resort.

He needs that motivation to play well, you heard the comments in the media during the week that McAndrew should come in and take his spot, and then ROB comes out and plays one of his better games this year.

Hopefully McAndrew keeps playing well and keeps the pressure on. Either it will force ROB to continue to play at the higher level, or it will then force the selectors to drop him and give McAndrew an opportunity.

Something wrong with the culture or ROB if he’s happy to phone it in until public questioning gets too intense.

 

[Rags_118]

Just on this, I had twenty minutes to kill so watched the Kayo mini of the game, and in that moment it's not really Nankervis at fault. Murray goes up and has the sit to spoil the ball, Nankervis is also coming from a different angle but Murray has the prime spot. It's hard to tell on the replay, but it looks like Murray gets just a tiny bit of fist on the ball which sends it over Nankervis' hand. Or maybe Murray just clean misses the ball and it gets through to (and past) Nankervis. Either way, Murray had a clean jump at it and is obviously the one who should be spoiling the ball in that scenario. His mistake.

So it was Murray’s spoil (or attempted mark as there wasn’t a GWS marking opponent). Nankervis should have stayed on his man then.

Hope I’m proved wrong, but I don’t think Nankervis will be a 100 game AFL player. He’s a poor man’s Milera.

 

[Cromulant]

So it was Murray’s spoil (or attempted mark as there wasn’t a GWS marking opponent). Nankervis should have stayed on his man then.

Hope I’m proved wrong, but I don’t think Nankervis will be a 100 game AFL player. He’s a poor man’s Milera.

He'll have a better and longer career than Milera

 

[George CantStandYa]

Something wrong with the culture or ROB if he’s happy to phone it in until public questioning gets too intense.

Yep or he’s dropped. How many times has it happened now? It’s pretty poor that a leader of the club needs being dropped or the threat of being dropped to lift.

Preseason he’s beaten by McAndrew, he’s then brought on to the list, first 2 games played ok to well. Next 2 games are downhill. Media questioning his position and plays his best game for the year.

What’s next, another good game followed by another couple of poor ones as he’s complacent again?

 

[Crow_Magnon]

Good...our defensive game. Interesting to note that not a single goal from GWS was from a set play or mark on the lead etc. - they were all snaps / scraps from general play. Muzz makes a heck of a difference back there.
Bad - Disposal
Ugly - Disposal

 

[triggyscrewedus]

Not sure if previously mentioned..
Just watching the kayo mini and noticed Dawson give ROB a fair mouthful after one of his typical half ass attempts to mark/spoil on the members wing.
Watching the vision it looked like Dawson was trying to set ROB up for the mark from a back half kick from Muz (set play maybe) and obviously expected a better effort at the contest.
Small thing but hopefully the heat is starting to get put on ROB internally.

 

[Crows I Am]

Something wrong with the culture or ROB if he’s happy to phone it in until public questioning gets too intense.

The fact we have not bothered to recruit any other ruck options has meant ROB had no pressure on him to perform. He knew he could coast along and his spot was safe. Strachan was only ever a break glass option and ROB knew it.

 

[Pugsley]

The fact we have not bothered to recruit any other ruck options has meant ROB had no pressure on him to perform. He knew he could coast along and his spot was safe. Strachan was only ever a break glass option and ROB knew it.

Let's hope McAndrew is applying pressure and ends up better than Strachan.

 

[blighty]

So it was Murray’s spoil (or attempted mark as there wasn’t a GWS marking opponent). Nankervis should have stayed on his man then.

Hope I’m proved wrong, but I don’t think Nankervis will be a 100 game AFL player. He’s a poor man’s Milera.

He's being played out of position ! Should be playing on the wing where he can be creative with his natural ball getting talents. In the coaches obsession with making everyone a defender ( think Pedlar, Dowling, Curtin Jones, Taylor, Murphy, and others) he's been under utilized. He was recruited as a forward, but has never played there. He's on the list of Nick's pigeon holed misfits as above. To think Murphy was able to play 116 games, Jones 92, and Scholl 79 & so many others not preferred ,under developed & denied opportunity is the biggest indictment of the coaching group. Not an ounce of coaching nous in the collective minds of Nicks, Burns, Van Berlo & Godden.. Nankervis has played 27 mostly good games. Much prefer to have him in the team instead of the coach's favourite Murphy who has never played a reasonable game. Given an opportunity to play to his strengths & talents we might discover a very constructive 100 game player !

 

[NSolis]

Yep or he’s dropped. How many times has it happened now? It’s pretty poor that a leader of the club needs being dropped or the threat of being dropped to lift.

Preseason he’s beaten by McAndrew, he’s then brought on to the list, first 2 games played ok to well. Next 2 games are downhill. Media questioning his position and plays his best game for the year.

What’s next, another good game followed by another couple of poor ones as he’s complacent again?

It's definitely a consistent pattern. I don't think ROB is a complete waste of space like a lot of people here but if he played like this week consistently we'd be a better side for sure.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

He's being played out of position ! Should be playing on the wing where he can be creative with his natural ball getting talents. In the coaches obsession with making everyone a defender ( think Pedlar, Dowling, Curtin Jones, Taylor, Murphy, and others) he's been under utilized. He was recruited as a forward, but has never played there. He's on the list of Nick's pigeon holed misfits as above. To think Murphy was able to play 116 games, Jones 92, and Scholl 79 & so many others not preferred ,under developed & denied opportunity is the biggest indictment of the coaching group. Not an ounce of coaching nous in the collective minds of Nicks, Burns, Van Berlo & Godden.. Nankervis has played 27 mostly good games. Much prefer to have him in the team instead of the coach's favourite Murphy who has never played a reasonable game. Given an opportunity to play to his strengths & talents we might discover a very constructive 100 game player !

He is playing on the wing


I personally think he’s better on a half back which is a more prominent role anyway

 

[George CantStandYa]

He is playing on the wing


I personally think he’s better on a half back which is a more prominent role anyway

First time he’s ever played on the wing though isn’t it?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

First time he’s ever played on the wing though isn’t it?

Has played wing before but not very often.

The major issue for me is we should be prioritising our young talented players.

We all know Nankervis should have started the season over Milera.

Nankervis can play wing or half back, so there are no excuses for not finding him a spot in the team.

Crazy that we brought Murphy back into the team before the likes of Nankervis. Yes, they are not like for like, but we have enough flexibility to move players around... or bring in someone like Dowling.

We really need to be getting games into our younger players doing well in the sanfl to develop depth. Edwards should be a good chance this week.

We really missed an opportunity with the 2 games off the shortened break & in warm conditions... particularly as there was a sanfl bye. Out selectors lack foresight & we lost both games & missed an opportunity to manage the squad & keep players fresh.

This week Draper needs a break

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

He is playing on the wing


I personally think he’s better on a half back which is a more prominent role anyway

Reckon Nankervis is suited to either role.

We want to have a few players capable of playing both roles as gives more flexibility.