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Radical best XXII concept; challenging the Wallace mentality

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Whilst there are 1000’s ‘Best 22’ threads, I am using this as a foundation to talk about something more important in the long term. The type of side we play each week and the direction we are attempting to move the club in, on field.

Drawing inspiration from the other best side thread, which has a lot of productive discussion, and being slightly bored in today’s philosophy lecture I did what I regular do when I have a pen and paper handy; I went about drawing up Richmond strongest side.


FB: P Bowden Thursfeild Meyer
HB: Tambling Polak J Bowden
C: Howat Foley Raines
HF: Pettifer Pattison Johnson
FF: Richo Schultz Brown
OB: Simmonds Deledio Newman

I: Tuck Polo White McGaune


Out: Tivendale, Gaspar, Hall
Make or break: Hyde, Krakouer, Kingsley, Knobel, King (r), Hartigan, Moore, Jackson
Young: Reiwoldt, Hughes, JON, Edwards, Connors, Casserly, Graham (r),

*Cogs = left out

(did I forget anyone?)

It’s a simply philosophy; if we ever are going to win GF’s it is going to be with the highly rated young bridge in the future and not the middle tier players who are proven as not being up to scratch.

It’d rather come 14-12th and get a few spankings along the way if it meant our younger lot get games into them and develop. If we come 9th again, with Wallace playing the ‘not up to it’ mid 20’s, again, I think I shall shed a tear.

The 'out' group must all go, the crapper half of the 'make or break' need to go also (the like of Hyde perhaps can be a deapth player, Knobel won't be allowed to leave unless Graham kicks on and we get a promsing ruckman etc.). One more influx of decent kids is required, and we need to continue to cut the hacks.

The justification for the XXII is sound:

Backline
J Bowden to continue playing his AA role on the beast forwards and killing them the other way. Polak & Thusty 2nd/3rd talls. P Bowden has all the skills/hight/speed to continue to keep doing well in that back pocket role.

The unusual selections are Meyer and Tambling. Two classy, highly rated kids who need to get more of the pill. The have all the attributes needed to kick ass as a modern defender (speed the biggest). Best place to at this stage for themselfs and the team football education wise.

Midfield
Simmonds ruck, Foley center picks its self. After much meditation im prone to agree Deledio needs to step up into the midfield. Time to see how much chop he is. Golden bollocks Howat is suited to the wing. Huge upgrade on Tivendale.

Time for Raines & Newman to step up into the next level. We need Raines keep taking people on and using his pace, but in a role more icentral that'll be more effective. Newman can make it as a midfielder, has both the defensive game and silky skills. Time to move out of a back pocket.

Forward
Johnson tagging the McLoud/Kennely type defender. Our forward line is shocking in regards to defensive pressure. Sugar would add abit of grunt. In the other thread someone said something along the lines of Pattison needs to show something. Is he too clumbersome/unco to make it? Plonk him at CHF and allow him to be a big target. Apparently he has had a decent pre-season and has some size. The new rules should help him @ 2m tall. Schultz in his natural postion in the square and Richo finally being allowed to play as he was destined.

Pine
I like the look of the bench. Polo & White add pace and abit of hardness to the rotations. Tuck has been one of best neally every week for the last 2 seasons, but he just lacks that bit of polish to ever be top class. Off the bench he would make a big impact with his solid frame and hardness. Reminds me of Martin Pike. A few people have been saying McGaune has abit of ticker.

Young, fast future oriented team.

That said; our Round 1 side will look like this;


FB: - Gaspar -
HB: - Hall -
C: Tivendale - -
HF: Hyde - -
FF: Kingsley - -
OB: - - Krakouer

I: - - - Moore


*shudder*
 
The thread ended up getting abit long.

This is a nice summary:

stuff playing the kids and developing a successful richmond outfit for the future

we should just try and limp our way to 8th and "reward" all those great leaders we have at the club who have taken us to past glory's :thumbsd:
 

FB: - Gaspar -
HB: - Hall -
C: Tivendale - -
HF: Hyde - -
FF: Kingsley - -
OB: - - Krakouer

I: - - - Moore

that would be a fast recovery from kingsley. you cant go all kids you get slaughtered week in week out. but im not trying to convince you bents i know the futility of that:rolleyes:
 

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I read a theory recently that said: if you play kids too much too soon, their bodies end up busted and they rack up injury after injury in what should be their peak.

I'm a bit of a believer in this theory and I reckon unless you're only aiming to get a few years start-to-finish from your elite athletes (a-la gymnastics; swimming), then driving them hard early and constantly is the way to go.

If you want a bit of sustainability, you have to ease them into a full-on, full-time commitment and at the top level that takes a few years.

Plus - isn't the Centre meant to be a tall, running player rather than a small, nuggety rover-type? And...um...Richo in the pocket???
 
that would be a fast recovery from kingsley.

The thread is called 'Best 22'.

If Kingsley were fit, he'd be in the side.

Wouldn't it have been nice to take a promising kid instead of a injury-prone 29 year old?

you cant go all kids you get slaughtered week in week out. but im not trying to convince you bents i know the futility of that:rolleyes:

Erm, we have got slaughtered time and time again in the Wallace era. Our fair share last season. First half vs Geelong.

You talk as if it has not happening before.

Instead of getting slaughtered, clearly not being good enough and comming 9th again, why don't we try something less stupid?

If the first team you posted is our best then we will lose most weeks :(

No, our best includes Tivendale, Gaspar, Hall...
 
I read a theory recently that said: if you play kids too much too soon, their bodies end up busted and they rack up injury after injury in what should be their peak.

I'm a bit of a believer in this theory and I reckon unless you're only aiming to get a few years start-to-finish from your elite athletes (a-la gymnastics; swimming), then driving them hard early and constantly is the way to go.

If you want a bit of sustainability, you have to ease them into a full-on, full-time commitment and at the top level that takes a few years.

Fair enough - if you play kids you've got to do it with some sence.

The overall theory remains.

Plus - isn't the Centre meant to be a tall, running player rather than a small, nuggety rover-type? And...um...Richo in the pocket???

Erm, no. That's the ruckrover if you want to use the old langauge.

The center = Greg Williams
 

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bentleigh is slowly turning the corner and im pumped

the rest of you can keep enjoying holidays come september
 
plsc ur an abosolute clown you have no clue about how richmond works........... go and join carlton or some other team
 
plsc ur an abosolute clown you have no clue about how richmond works........... go and join carlton or some other team

Top post. :thumbsu:

bentleigh is slowly turning the corner and im pumped

the rest of you can keep enjoying holidays come september

Slowly turning the corner? I've been saying the same thing for years..
 
Top post. :thumbsu:



Slowly turning the corner? I've been saying the same thing for years..

yeh you have always been an inspiration to me BUT i felt the connection was drifting apart

you have come back strong with some real quality lately and im PUMPED
 
As long as Bentleigh sticks fat, then he will be cherry ripe to step up to the plate!
 

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The future???

White McGuane Thursfield
JON Polak Casserly
Edwards Raines Tambling
Connors Hughes Polo
Riewoldt Schulz Peterson

Pattison Deledio Foley

IC: Collins, Graham, Klingan, Howat

:thumbsu:
 
From OER: Rich vs Colling

X-CITED
dont worry about the score board, we dominated.

and they had a their best team in bar buckley and tamponhurst, if he is considered in there best 22 lol

we held back that last quarter, practised our possession game

all players played a role, tiv was our worst

Great stuff Tivvers. Lets keep playing the retarted 28 year old instead of a promising kid.

:thumbsu:
 
From OER: Rich vs Colling



Great stuff Tivvers. Lets keep playing the retarted 28 year old instead of a promising kid.

:thumbsu:


If you can't spell, does that make you retarTed too?
 

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