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Gerrymandering?

Politically motivated and used by both parties in recent times. In the African American context, it’s been primarily the democrats trying to take advantage of the 90% vote from Black Americans. The Republicans, generally, fiddle with the city versus rural vote.

The reduction in polling booths in the south affects all citizens, regardless of their background. Even rural areas with large white populations have been affected. Past racist polling practices do not apply in this case.

In the context, boundaries are redrawn by state legislatures to minimise the black vote. GOP controlled legislatures are doing this and need those white rural votes.
 
Gerrymandering?

Politically motivated and used by both parties in recent times. In the African American context, it’s been primarily the democrats trying to take advantage of the 90% vote from Black Americans. The Republicans, generally, fiddle with the city versus rural vote.

The reduction in polling booths in the south affects all citizens, regardless of their background. Even rural areas with large white populations have been affected. Past racist polling practices do not apply in this case.

1) Racism is blown massively out of proportion in relation to this country.
2) All the gesturing in the world won't remove it in the same way that fat people won't ever get a complete break, ugly people, white people, asian people etc. It can only be controlled, not abolished.

The supreme hypocrisy of the SJW movement is that it actually serves to facilitate racism, but of course, you have to be able to step outside it in order to see it.
 

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Well, in the discussion you quoted, campaigners are asking for a statutory body like our AEC to determine electoral boundaries rather than state legislatures. It’s a little more than a platitude.

So what?

The rort doesn't suit your own personal massaging of the boundaries for your own political purposes?

You're no better. Not one iota.
 
It’s so strange.

Hey, when strange gathers momentum it becomes potentially dangerous.

Universities have a production line of these automatons. It's a concern.
 

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How should electoral boundaries be drawn up?
You’re talking like the African American population is the largest demographic in America.. They make up 15 odd percent.

Until wealth disparity gets sorted out and there is meaningful opposition to the billionaire interest parties of the Republicans and Democrats nothing will change.

There needs to be something that represents the people of America, not money.

the rest is background noise.
 
You’re talking like the African American population is the largest demographic in America..
Until there’s meaningful opposition to the billionaire parties of the Republicans and Democrats nothing will change.
There needs to be something that represents the people, not money.

the rest is background noise.
Yeah, sure. Widening the political power of those outside the Wall St nexus would support this. Or just giving them the same power as everyone else.

Nothing I said suggested they are the largest dempgraphic.
 
Surely they’re smart enough to understand the absurdity of having racial segregation?

There not smart enough to formulate their own ideas, so I dunno why you give them credit for anything else.

They're automatons who spew out the bullshit that is pumped in to them by the heavily political element of the education system.

If you comply, you pass.
 
There not smart enough to formulate their own ideas, so I dunno why you give them credit for anything else.

They're automatons who spew out the bullshit that is pumped in to them by the heavily political element of the education system.

If you comply, you pass.

They’re going to be embarrassed about it in 5 years
 
In the context, boundaries are redrawn by state legislatures to minimise the black vote. GOP controlled legislatures are doing this and need those white rural votes.
Yea, negative racial gerrymandering has been illegal since 1965 and the federal congress and law has supremacy over state and local authorities on this one. It’s all in the voting right act of 1965 and it’s various amendments. The coverage formula has been shown to increase minority voter turnout.

Affirmative racial gerrymandering is also covered by the 1965 act and a number of legal precedents following 1965. In every case of racial affirmative gerrymandering, the courts have been involved and been used to affirm the rights of a particular minority.

Gerrymandering that is defined as purely political in nature still happens and is an issue.
 

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Yea, negative racial gerrymandering has been illegal since 1965 and the federal congress and law has supremacy over state and local authorities on this one. It’s all in the voting right act of 1965 and it’s various amendments. The coverage formula has been shown to increase minority voter turnout.

Affirmative racial gerrymandering is also covered by the 1965 act and a number of legal precedents following 1965. In every case of racial affirmative gerrymandering, the courts have been involved and been used to affirm the rights of a particular minority.

Gerrymandering that is defined as purely political in nature still happens and is an issue.
The SC kicked the issue back to state legislatures.

No state legislature is goig to acknowledge they are gerrymandering for racist reasons. The Southern strategy has created a racially polarised political culture and GOP controlled state legislatures can re-draw boundaries and then chronically mismanage black voting districts. This is all catalogued.
 
The SC kicked the issue back to state legislatures.

No state legislature is goig to acknowledge they are gerrymandering for racist reasons. The Southern strategy has created a racially polarised political culture and GOP controlled state legislatures can re-draw boundaries and then chronically mismanage black voting districts. This is all catalogued.
States and the federal congress have control over defining partisan gerrymandering, following 2019, and the earlier 2006 Texas SC decision over states defining boundaries, as long as they are within the legal confines of political gerrymandering. This is because racially motivated gerrymandering is still illegal under Federal law. One district, the 23rd Texas, was actually declared unconstitutional as a result. States must prove that legitimate disputes of partisan gerrymandering are valid and are they can use federal law if they are racially motivated.


The onus is on the prosecution to prove purely racist intent, not the other way around.
 
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States and the federal congress have control over defining partisan gerrymandering, following 2019, and the earlier 2006 Texas SC decision over states defining boundaries, as long as they are within the legal confines of political gerrymandering. This is because racially motivated gerrymandering is still illegal under Federal law. One district, the 23rd Texas, was actually declared unconstitutional as a result. States must prove that legitimate disputes of partisan gerrymandering are valid and are they can used federal law if they are racially motivated.


The onus is on the prosecution to prove purely racist intent, not the other way around.
The SC ruled in 2019 the issue of gerrymandering was a states issue. And this doesn't touch on the issue of 'accidental' mismanaging of polling places. They need a federal statutory body to oversee elections, but they won't, as their conception of democracy is about restricting it.
 
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