Play Nice Random Chat Thread V

[Royal Flush]

You're seeing the results of it now.
The stuff about family, spending time together, exchanging gifts etc. as an annual tradition remains as a cultural staple whilst the religious stuff gets shed because it's not relevant to those that don't actively practice the religion.

It has literally nothing to do with being 'woke'.

It has though, as per above dialogue.
To not divert from the subject matter. (how people celebrate religous holidays is entirely up to them)

Omitting certian christmas carols, from christmas carol concerts at schools, is a valid example to illustrate that it has a lot to do with cancel culture or wokeness, or whatever you call it, Progressive?



As has guardians/carers day (in lieu of mothers/fathers day)

You're calling it, "seeing the results off" a non religous, pagan society.
I dont.

 

[DrZaius]

It has though, as per above dialogue.
To not divert from the subject matter. (how people celebrate religous holidays is entirely up to them)

Omitting certian christmas carols, from christmas carol concerts at schools, is a valid example to illustrate that it has a lot to do with cancel culture or wokeness, or whatever you call it, Progressive?



As has guardians/carers day (in lieu of mothers/fathers day)

You're calling it, "seeing the results off" a non religous, pagan society.
I dont.

You're jumping at shadows. The reason you use the term 'woke' so much is because you are trying to find a convenient label/boogeyman for anything that challenges your pre-existing world view/view on how you think the world should be.

To put it a different way should children of non-Christian faith be forced to sing Christian hymns at Christmas time? Because according to the data, only half the kids in any given class will come from Christian families - with that number rapidly declining.

As has guardians/carers day (in lieu of mothers/fathers day)

*citation needed*

The only information I can find about guardians/carers day are that they are both separate from mothers/fathers day (i.e. not "in lieu" as you are claiming) with National Guardians day being July 26th and National Carers week being October 10-16.

 

[ferball]

Weren't lots of them from WA as well?

Blokes who grew up hard in the Depression shooting roos and the like for a feed.

I'm not sure. My missus grandad was from west of Brisbane somewhere, in the country.

 

[Chadwiko]

Omitting certian christmas carols, from christmas carol concerts at schools, is a valid example to illustrate that it has a lot to do with cancel culture or wokeness, or whatever you call it, Progressive?

Some Christmas Carols are bad. Some are completely useless here in Australia (we aren't ever going to have a 'white christmas' with snow, for example).

No one is trying to "cancel" Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer or the Little Drummer Boy.
The 12 Days of Christmas is still relevant too. Jingle Bells. Deck the Halls. We Wish You a Merry Christmas.

There's heaps of Christmas Carols that are still prevelant here in Australia.

There's a few that are particularly Christian and not really relevant to Christmas in Australia if you aren't religious, so who cares if kids at public/non-religious schools aren't learning them?

This really isn't a culture war like some professional conservative victims try to make it out to be.

 

[Tectonic]

 

[Royal Flush]

You're jumping at shadows. The reason you use the term 'woke' so much is because you are trying to find a convenient label/boogeyman for anything that challenges your pre-existing world view/view on how you think the world should be.

To put it a different way should children of non-Christian faith be forced to sing Christian hymns at Christmas time? Because according to the data, only half the kids in any given class will come from Christian families - with that number rapidly declining.



*citation needed*

The only information I can find about guardians/carers day are that they are both separate from mothers/fathers day (i.e. not "in lieu" as you are claiming) with National Guardians day being July 26th and National Carers week being October 10-16.

No there is a Boogeyman.
Literally everyone of your posts defends or justifys every single absurdity that comes from the "progressive" side of the street. Its much easier to call it woke, although im mindful people take offence to the term being so overused.

 

[Tectonic]

No there is a Boogeyman.
Literally everyone of your posts defends or justifys every single absurdity that comes from the "progressive" side of the street. Its much easier to call it woke, although im mindful people take offence to the term being so overused.

You're using woke like the left uses nazi though

Don't agree with it? Woke
Disturbs my worldview? Woke
Too nice? Woke


It's not offensive, it's just completely devoid of nuance.

 

[Royal Flush]

You're using woke like the left uses nazi though

Don't agree with it? Woke
Disturbs my worldview? Woke
Too nice? Woke


It's not offensive, it's just completely devoid of nuance.

Progressive
Liberal
Post modern
Critical theory

Woke is just a lot easier to write and entails all the above.

Your fellow wokesters, have a woke websight on how to be woke;

Race
Religion
Gender
Sexuality
Nationality
Class
Ability
Ageism.

here https://www.soyouwanttobewoke.com/#about

 

[Royal Flush]

Some Christmas Carols are bad. Some are completely useless here in Australia (we aren't ever going to have a 'white christmas' with snow, for example).

No one is trying to "cancel" Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer or the Little Drummer Boy.
The 12 Days of Christmas is still relevant too. Jingle Bells. Deck the Halls. We Wish You a Merry Christmas.

There's heaps of Christmas Carols that are still prevelant here in Australia.

There's a few that are particularly Christian and not really relevant to Christmas in Australia if you aren't religious, so who cares if kids at public/non-religious schools aren't learning them?

This really isn't a culture war like some professional conservative victims try to make it out to be.

wich ones are bad?

 

[DrZaius]

No there is a Boogeyman.
Literally everyone of your posts defends or justifys every single absurdity that comes from the "progressive" side of the street. Its much easier to call it woke, although im mindful people take offence to the term being so overused.

Is that really true though?
Just because I don't hysterically shriek at every perceived outrage perpetuated by 'woke' culture doesn't mean I blindly support every single idea that tries to parasitically disguise itself as progressive.

Where is the proof of Mothers/Fathers day being replaced? Because if it were true I definitely wouldn't agree with it. Here's the thing though: it's not actually happening, yet you are attempting to use it as an example to justify your outrage. Just like many of the other controversies that certain people rally against for being too 'woke' it either doesn't exist, or is being deliberately misconstrued and sensationalised by news outlets to generate clicks.

 

[Tectonic]

Your fellow wokesters

Like I said, completely devoid of nuance.

 

[DrZaius]

That first cut back to the visiting dignitaries is one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen.

 

[Royal Flush]

Is that really true though?
Just because I don't hysterically shriek at every perceived outrage perpetuated by 'woke' culture doesn't mean I blindly support every single idea that tries to parasitically disguise itself as progressive.

Where is the proof of Mothers/Fathers day being replaced? Because if it were true I definitely wouldn't agree with it. Here's the thing though: it's not actually happening, yet you are attempting to use it as an example to justify your outrage. Just like many of the other controversies that certain people rally against for being too 'woke' it either doesn't exist, or is being deliberately misconstrued and sensationalised by news outlets to generate clicks.

Its not a rally against woke.
Its about absurdity materializing into mainstream society.
Its also about the education system, failing children in pursuit of non-academic , critical theory ideoligies .



Yes, at my daughters school. Its outlined in the schools letter.
How do you not see the connection with encouraging students to not use gendered pro-nouns , like mother and father.

Take a look at how our students are performing over the last 20 years. We have fallen behind.
Let me guess, this is a funding issue?

Im inetrested to know, which parasitic ideas disguised as progressive have you dismissed?

 

[Only Forwards]

Where is the proof of Mothers/Fathers day being replaced?

The only thing I've found relates to a single columnist from Toronto in 2017.

Fwiw in my looking I found that parents day is already in existence and has been for some time.

 

[Tectonic]

Its not a rally against woke.
Its about absurdity materializing into mainstream society.
Its also about the education system, failing children in pursuit of non-academic , critical theory ideoligies .



Yes, at my daughters school. Its outlined in the schools letter.
How do you not see the connection with encouraging students to not use gendered pro-nouns , like mother and father.

Take a look at how our students are performing over the last 20 years. We have fallen behind.
Let me guess, this is a funding issue?

Im inetrested to know, which parasitic ideas disguised as progressive have you dismissed?

What kinda school are you sending your kids to lmao

Never heard of father's day being cancelled

 

[Chadwiko]

wich ones are bad?

Way to ignore the entire post, dude...

 

[Only Forwards]

What kinda school are you sending your kids to lmao

Never heard of father's day being cancelled

Or why if they were putting in place some thing like this that you disagreed with you'd keep sending your kids there?

It either doesn't exist or isn't a big deal.

 

[Chadwiko]

I can confidently say no public schools have "cancelled" mother's day/father's day.

Teaching kids about "guardians/carers" does not equate to eliminating mothers/fathers.

 

[Themanbun]

Re Christmas;
Have you been to a public school christmas carol lately?
They don't sing any Christmas carols that have references to christianity.
Been the case for a few years now.

Some schools have renamed mother's/father's day to carers day.

Just a couple if examples off the top of my head.

Ohh i forgot , no more easter hat parades at some stage schools.

How is this baseless?


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The irony is, and I'm not sure you could bring yourself to agree, it's not the 'left' or 'socialism' that has watered down the religious basis of Christmas and Easter, but capitalism's commercialisation of both these holidays. It sadly lost religious meaning for most a long time ago, and unfortunately many of the most Christian organisations in the Western world fiercely defended a system which made the birth of Jesus about buying your kids a bunch of shit you can't afford and sinking piss, and the resurrection of Jesus about bunnies and overpriced chocolates.

The people I know whinging most about Christmas being 'canceled' in schools or whatever, I have never seen at mass.

 

[koshari]

The irony is, and I'm not sure you could bring yourself to agree, it's not the 'left' or 'socialism' that has watered down the religious basis of Christmas and Easter, but capitalism's commercialisation of both these holidays. It sadly lost religious meaning for most a long time ago, and unfortunately many of the most Christian organisations in the Western world fiercely defended a system which made the birth of Jesus about buying your kids a bunch of sh*t you can't afford and sinking piss, and the resurrection of Jesus about bunnies and overpriced chocolates.

The people I know whinging most about Christmas being 'canceled' in schools or whatever, I have never seen at mass.

I don't think its either left or right. A lot of people exercise their right to think logically which leads to objects such as deities being considered not neccasarily factual.

 

[Themanbun]

I don't think its either left or right. A lot of people exercise their right to think logically which leads to objects such as deities being considered not neccasarily factual.

The commercialisation of religious holidays is undoubtedly a result of our economic framework.

 

[koshari]

The commercialisation of religious holidays is undoubtedly a result of our economic framework.

The commercialisation of everything is due the economic framework. Let's face it, where ever there is a buck to be made interests will be in there getting their cut. Even the church itself. Interestingly some public holidays in the UK are called bank holidays. About as non secular as you can get? Or more morbidly pay homage to the financial institutions?

 

[Tectonic]

The commercialisation of religious holidays is undoubtedly a result of our economic framework.

Daresay mother's day and father's day have almost as much to owe to commerce as religious holidays do presently.

 

[koshari]

Daresay mother's day and father's day have almost as much to owe to commerce as religious holidays do presently.

Throw valentines into the mix

 

[Hojuman]

Valentines Day
Mothers Day
Fathers Day

All " Hallmark " holidays in my book.