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Yeah. Born in 81. Some have that as gen y, some as gen x

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I’m ‘82!

We are old enough to know the good old days, but young enough to be able to use computers. Old enough to have had to pick up women the old fashioned way and young enough to be across the “hook up” Apps.

Whenever I read Gen Y/Z ramblings, I feel for the diggers.
 
Isn't the bill basically enabling tax reporting on crypto transactions the same as other transactions?

I'm not sure how people can really get their knickers in a twist about that.

If anything it’s giving it legitimacy as it’s now being classified as an asset with CGT ramifications.
 
Isn't the bill basically enabling tax reporting on crypto transactions the same as other transactions?

I'm not sure how people can really get their knickers in a twist about that.
Because it's more than that. That's why people are pissed off. Which like most things people criticise but never take the time to understand themselves. It also impact other areas. Which is why amendments have been added in hopes of changing the wording.

It's fossils not knowing how something works and thinking they are doing the right thing but failing miserably.

Tax reporting has never been an issue - people know it needs to be done. Same with regulations - it's needed...but correctly.
 

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I’m ‘82!

We are old enough to know the good old days, but young enough to be able to use computers. Old enough to have had to pick up women the old fashioned way and young enough to be across the “hook up” Apps.

Whenever I read Gen Y/Z ramblings, I feel for the diggers.

And no risk of doing something as a young man ending up getting spread because someone filmed it on their phone. Way freer time
 

Full Article Below:


Tom Zaunmayr

Pilbara News
Wed, 11 August 2021

On a remote patch of land in the North West at the end of a road to nowhere, surrounded by one of Earth’s most remarkable natural landscapes, sits ground zero for an insidious project to dictate the world’s climate.

Australia, so it is believed, is a major player in a secret worldwide government plot to control the weather through Exmouth’s very low frequency towers.

It is a completely outlandish idea which has for half a decade held a groundswell of believers and even compelled one individual to make a change.org petition to decommission the VLF towers.

This is the Exmouth HAARP theory.

“It’s HAARP; it’s no secret, every Australian knows it and it’s used for weather modification,” Sacred Knowledge2015 posted to YouTube three years ago, which was promptly trashed by an ex-HEH employee.

HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program and was an Alaskan experiment which burst high frequency radar signals into the atmosphere to study the effects of solar flares on communications equipment — important research for everything from GPS navigation to missile detection.

But theorists believe the HAARP program controls the weather. Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez even reportedly claimed in 2010 HAARP or a similar program triggered the Haiti earthquake.

In 2010 this theory got a head full of steam in Australia too when mysterious patterns appeared on the Bureau of Meteorology’s radar system.


First there was an “ice doughnut” shape over Kalgoorlie, then a red star over Broome and a spiral known as a ring of fire fault over Melbourne. This was proof, conspiracy theorists claimed, of Exmouth’s involvement in weather modification.

“We have the world’s largest ionospheric heater at Western Australia’s Exmouth,” Charlie Ozcelik wrote in his change.org petition.


“Just Google VLF group and NWC transmitter and scientific documents relating to experiments carried out in our atmosphere will fill your desktop.

“Are we picking up segments of these experiments on the radar images?”

The BoM eventually posted a disclaimer on its radar feeds, putting the images down to “occasional interference to the radar data”, but some remained sceptical.

Like the Woodside flame in Karratha and the Super Pit in Kalgoorlie, plenty of punters also like to argue the VLF towers create a so-called dome over Exmouth which prevents rainfall, which 2021’s downpours have debunked.

And Exmouth conspiracies aren’t just centred around the towers’ weather-altering potential.

If the towers are a weather weapon, NAVCOMMSTA Harold E Holt 10km back down the road to Exmouth is a murky operation shrouding out-of-this-world projects in secrecy. The not-so-secret submarine communication base named after the Australian Prime Minister lost at sea was commissioned in 1967.

Much like Nevada’s famed Area 51 and the Northern Territory’s Pine Gap, a perceived veil of secrecy surrounding the station has spawned some wild theories.

Some claim the base can remotely power battle ships. Others have said it is involved in the cover-up of proof of alien life.

Then there was the outlandish video shared to US YouTube outlet Science Channel’s 3.9m subscribers back in 2017.

“You may know of Area 51... but can you identify this top secret spot in Australia,” Science Channel’s intro stated in reference to the clearly marked and well-known facility passed by thousands of people every day.

In that video, which has been viewed by about 320,000 people, the channel went about talking up the secrecy and rumours surrounding the base.

“November 2014, the World View 3 satellite is passing over the vast, empty wilderness of Australia’s North West Cape when it captures a huge symbol etched onto the earth,” the video begins.

“Close analysis of the image reveal at the points of the hexagram there are thin, spike-like structures casting long shadows.”

Journalist Andrew Gough adds: “a hexagon a mile wide in the middle of the desert”.

One minute in the bubble is finally burst, but not without more mayo lathered on.


“This is no mine,” the presenter says. “The World View 3 satellite has captured an image of the most secretive and controversial military site in Australia.


“The base is rumoured to operate top secret space surveillance systems developed at White Sands missile range.”

The presenter said “people believed” the base could be used to communicate with submerged nuclear submarines.

Several signs around Exmouth and a wealth of information online and in print makes it clear this is the purpose of the base.

One theory which gained mainstream media coverage and was touched on in the video involved mid-air drama onboard two passenger planes in 2008.

QF72 was forced into an emergency landing at Learmonth in October that year after its air data reference units became faulty, leading to sudden pitch manoeuvres which injured some of its occupants.

Speculators latched on to claims of electromagnetic interference from HEH at the time of the incident. The 313-page Australian Transport Safety Bureau report made clear it was “extremely unlikely” HEH affected the planes, but speculation grew again in December when QF71 experienced a similar fault.

The Australian and International Pilots Association even called for commercial aircraft to be barred from the area as a precaution until the cause of the incident was better known.

“We operate in the kilohertz range and the aviation computers operate in megahertz, so there's a big difference,” base manager Russell Levine said at the time.

That Science Channel video offered a different theory.

“The incident provoked speculation the site could be part of a secret radio wave weapons program,” it said.

For the record, the ATSB found a failure of automated air-data processing was responsible for false data, which led to flight control computers ordering pitch-downs.
 
And no risk of doing something as a young man ending up getting spread because someone filmed it on their phone. Way freer time
And less leaked booty pics😭
 
Looks like the yanks are going all in on carbon capture technology.
Wasn’t it Kissinger who said something along the lines of who controls food supply, controls the people. Who controls the energy, controls the continents. Who controls the money, controls the world.

Hydrogen production in the hands of people flips the chessboard… it’s the end of the petrodollars..
 
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Full Article Below:

Tom Zaunmayr
Pilbara News
Wed, 11 August 2021

On a remote patch of land in the North West at the end of a road to nowhere, surrounded by one of Earth’s most remarkable natural landscapes, sits ground zero for an insidious project to dictate the world’s climate.

Australia, so it is believed, is a major player in a secret worldwide government plot to control the weather through Exmouth’s very low frequency towers.

It is a completely outlandish idea which has for half a decade held a groundswell of believers and even compelled one individual to make a change.org petition to decommission the VLF towers.

This is the Exmouth HAARP theory.

“It’s HAARP; it’s no secret, every Australian knows it and it’s used for weather modification,” Sacred Knowledge2015 posted to YouTube three years ago, which was promptly trashed by an ex-HEH employee.

HAARP stands for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program and was an Alaskan experiment which burst high frequency radar signals into the atmosphere to study the effects of solar flares on communications equipment — important research for everything from GPS navigation to missile detection.

But theorists believe the HAARP program controls the weather. Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez even reportedly claimed in 2010 HAARP or a similar program triggered the Haiti earthquake.

In 2010 this theory got a head full of steam in Australia too when mysterious patterns appeared on the Bureau of Meteorology’s radar system.


First there was an “ice doughnut” shape over Kalgoorlie, then a red star over Broome and a spiral known as a ring of fire fault over Melbourne. This was proof, conspiracy theorists claimed, of Exmouth’s involvement in weather modification.

“We have the world’s largest ionospheric heater at Western Australia’s Exmouth,” Charlie Ozcelik wrote in his change.org petition.


“Just Google VLF group and NWC transmitter and scientific documents relating to experiments carried out in our atmosphere will fill your desktop.

“Are we picking up segments of these experiments on the radar images?”

The BoM eventually posted a disclaimer on its radar feeds, putting the images down to “occasional interference to the radar data”, but some remained sceptical.

Like the Woodside flame in Karratha and the Super Pit in Kalgoorlie, plenty of punters also like to argue the VLF towers create a so-called dome over Exmouth which prevents rainfall, which 2021’s downpours have debunked.

And Exmouth conspiracies aren’t just centred around the towers’ weather-altering potential.

If the towers are a weather weapon, NAVCOMMSTA Harold E Holt 10km back down the road to Exmouth is a murky operation shrouding out-of-this-world projects in secrecy. The not-so-secret submarine communication base named after the Australian Prime Minister lost at sea was commissioned in 1967.

Much like Nevada’s famed Area 51 and the Northern Territory’s Pine Gap, a perceived veil of secrecy surrounding the station has spawned some wild theories.

Some claim the base can remotely power battle ships. Others have said it is involved in the cover-up of proof of alien life.

Then there was the outlandish video shared to US YouTube outlet Science Channel’s 3.9m subscribers back in 2017.

“You may know of Area 51... but can you identify this top secret spot in Australia,” Science Channel’s intro stated in reference to the clearly marked and well-known facility passed by thousands of people every day.

In that video, which has been viewed by about 320,000 people, the channel went about talking up the secrecy and rumours surrounding the base.

“November 2014, the World View 3 satellite is passing over the vast, empty wilderness of Australia’s North West Cape when it captures a huge symbol etched onto the earth,” the video begins.

“Close analysis of the image reveal at the points of the hexagram there are thin, spike-like structures casting long shadows.”

Journalist Andrew Gough adds: “a hexagon a mile wide in the middle of the desert”.

One minute in the bubble is finally burst, but not without more mayo lathered on.


“This is no mine,” the presenter says. “The World View 3 satellite has captured an image of the most secretive and controversial military site in Australia.


“The base is rumoured to operate top secret space surveillance systems developed at White Sands missile range.”

The presenter said “people believed” the base could be used to communicate with submerged nuclear submarines.

Several signs around Exmouth and a wealth of information online and in print makes it clear this is the purpose of the base.

One theory which gained mainstream media coverage and was touched on in the video involved mid-air drama onboard two passenger planes in 2008.

QF72 was forced into an emergency landing at Learmonth in October that year after its air data reference units became faulty, leading to sudden pitch manoeuvres which injured some of its occupants.

Speculators latched on to claims of electromagnetic interference from HEH at the time of the incident. The 313-page Australian Transport Safety Bureau report made clear it was “extremely unlikely” HEH affected the planes, but speculation grew again in December when QF71 experienced a similar fault.

The Australian and International Pilots Association even called for commercial aircraft to be barred from the area as a precaution until the cause of the incident was better known.

“We operate in the kilohertz range and the aviation computers operate in megahertz, so there's a big difference,” base manager Russell Levine said at the time.

That Science Channel video offered a different theory.

“The incident provoked speculation the site could be part of a secret radio wave weapons program,” it said.

For the record, the ATSB found a failure of automated air-data processing was responsible for false data, which led to flight control computers ordering pitch-downs.
Raytheon (Australia) provides all the support services for the base and Australia and the US have signed a 25 year agreement (2008) for use of the base. It used to be very important in sending naval signals to Australian vessels and US nuclear subs operating in parts of the Pacific and Indian oceans. People thought Pine Gap was the most important, Naval Communicatoin Station Harold E. Holt was also very important. Now a space support facility nowadays.

 
Wasn’t it Kissinger who said something along the lines of who controls food supply, controls the people. Who controls the energy, controls the continents. Who controls the money, controls the world.

Hydrogen production in the hands of people fills the chessboard…
Haven't heard that quote. A lot of quotes people use are misattributed or have been altered.

I don't know enough about carbon capture, but it seems popular in right-wing circles.
 
Raytheon (Australia) provides all the support services for the base and Australia and the US have signed a 25 year agreement (2008) for use of the base. It used to be very important in sending naval signals to Australian vessels and US nuclear subs operating in parts of the Pacific and Indian oceans. People thought Pine Gap was the most important, Naval Communicatoin Station Harold E. Holt was also very important. Now a space support facility nowadays.

Its interesting, I tell you what though, almost the entire greater exmouth area can see those towers... they are huge!
 

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Haven't heard that quote. A lot of quotes people use are misattributed or have been altered.

I don't know enough about carbon capture, but it seems popular in right-wing circles.
I think the quote is referenced here..

I think carbon capture is another attempt at big business, if they ever get to carbon credits. Taxation will be huge on countries like China and India.

but if they’re smart enough, they’ll pivot away to hydrogen. So so many benefits, especially on a micro production. Every homes excess solar can be transferred as hydrogen stored, and used like a battery.
 
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I think the quote is reference here..

I think carbon capture is another attempt at big business, if they ever get to carbon credits. Taxation will be huge on countries like China and India.

but if they’re smart enough, they’ll pivot away to hydrogen. So so many benefits, especially on a micro production.
Ok, thanks.

Interesting on the food and I definitely think that's the way we are heading re food, energy, etc. despite both being a bit different. Family farms have to do with changing demographics as well as other economic/cultural things, whilst energy has featured about a decade of expensive and often inefficient public subsidies that are struggling to make a dent in clean energy and now requires a fair amount of private industry funding/research. Look at Germany for example.

Its public subsidies for wind farms were substantial and now they are reducing them because their costly, often inefficient compared to France and was having a negative impact on bird life. They are now approaching private companies to help fill the void and they are varying their approach a bit more. There needs to be a bit of a balance between public/private. I rather big companies take on some of that risk in researching, developing and maintaining clean energy technology in unison with the government. The government's problem when it comes to this type of thing is that they often lack a big stick or are unwilling to use it when the company starts to dominate a particular sector.


The paper provides estimates of the number of family farms, the number of farms by size as well as the distribution of farmland by farm size. These estimates find that: there are at least 570 million farms worldwide, of which more than 500 million can be considered family farms. Most of the world’s farms are very small, with more than 475 million farms being less than 2 hectares in size. Although the vast majority of the world’s farms are smaller than 2 hectares, they operate only a small share of the world’s farmland. Farmland distribution would seem quite unequal at the global level, but it is less so in low- and lower-middle-income countries as well as in some regional groups.
 
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Ok, thanks.

Interesting on the food and I definitely think that's the way we are heading re food, energy, etc. Both are bit different though. Family farms have to do with changing demographics as well as other economic/cultural things, whilst energy has featured about a decade of expensive and often inefficient public subsidies that are struggling to make a dent in clean energy and requires a fair amount of private industry funding/research. Look at Germany for example.

Its public subsidies for wind farms were substantial and now they are getting rid of them. They are now approaching private companies to help fill the void a bit. There needs to be a bit of a balance between public/private. I rather big companies take on some of that risk in researching, developing and maintaining clean energy technology in unison with the government. The government's problem when it comes to this type of thing is that they often lack a big stick or are unwilling to use it when the company starts to dominate a particular sector.


The paper provides estimates of the number of family farms, the number of farms by size as well as the distibution of farmland by farm size. These estimates find that: there are at least 570 million farms worldwide, of which more than 500 million can be considered family farms. Most of the world’s farms are very small, with more than 475 million farms being less than 2 hectares in size. Although the vast majority of the world’s farms are smaller than 2 hectares, they operate only a small share of the world’s farmland. Farmland distribution would seem quite unequal at the global level, but it is less so in low- and lower-middle-income countries as well as in some regional groups.
You’re really smart
 

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Oh get a room you too…
And close the curtains…
 
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