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What if you have 4 mojitos on your own before 10:30am?
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If I’m working overtime like 9 days in a row and I don’t get a bonus what do I do
Welcome to full time employment

In all serious, what is your employment status & what did you sign when you started?
 
Welcome to full time employment

In all serious, what is your employment status & what did you sign when you started?
Ks I don’t work full time, I’m casual doing 40+ hours per week

Did they say that your deal included bonuses?
Idk lol can’t remember
 
Ks I don’t work full time, I’m casual doing 40+ hours per week


Idk lol can’t remember
Sorry, doubt you will get anything for casual other than possibly a grateful boss & extra money as a result of penalties..
 
Sorry, doubt you will get anything for casual other than possibly a grateful boss & extra money as a result of penalties..
Well my coworker said he got $200 bonus so hopefully I WILL GET MORE!!! If I do I will buy you a family feast🤪
 

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Well my coworker said he got $200 bonus so hopefully I WILL GET MORE!!! If I do I will buy you a family feast🤪
Hate to say it, I wouldn't be telling my colleagues if and when I got them as not everyone gets one
 
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My bold, didn't vast famines occur under Mao entirely due to the "system" though? That killed tens of millions of people? And didn't the quality of life in China only improve once that system was rejected for a kind of state run and limited within the population capitalism?? Sure they have called themselves communists for decades but not sure they have been? Its been about "the party" but not so much about the reality of communism as that doesn't really work. They remind me more of the Nazi's, party focus, supreme leader etc, at least in their current form.

Anyway, how about that Coronavirus?

China was an absolute shitshow before Mao. Peoples lives were ****ed. The same as Russia and Cuba. Compared to life in Australia, even in the 20s and 30s when it was hard here, we have no idea how brutal and harsh life was.

Its an undeniable fact (and feel free to try and deny it but its a fact) that Communist revolutions improved the standards of living in those nations in significant ways. People had access to literacy and medical care as a result. They're some of the most basic measures of a standard of living that is acceptable, Warlords practised slavery in pre Commie China and woman had no rights at all ... but they could fight on the front line for Mao. if you can't recognise that its cos you've been brainwashed by anti communist propaganda.

And I'm not saying this to defend communism. If people ruling societies let them get to that state, that the population will revolt and embrace something as new as Communism was, then they deserve everything they get as a result. What i'm saying isn't an endorsement of Communist regimes either. The Communists sabotaged the fight against Franco in Spain in the 30s. The Republicans might have won without the likes of Alexander Orlov running around shooting everyone of any importance on the antifa side. Authoritarian shitheads are authoritarian shitheads, whatever their so called Ideology. Its always just about power. Even with a nationalist like Putin who genuinely has a "vision of glory" for Russia.

We'll never have a Communist revolution here. We'll have a fascist/nationalist one long before things ever get that bad.

If you take the attitude that Communism is workers owning everything then to a certain degree we already live under Communism anyway. Blackrock and Vanguard own a little chunk of everything and they're mostly pension funds owned by workers. Well some workers....
 
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but compare the situation between Britney Higgins and the Chinese tennis player.

The Chinese lady has been detained, threatened and brainwashed.

All discussion censored.

Higgins is nearly Australian of the year despite (imo) her story making very little sense

None of this has anything to do with the fact that the Communist revolution in China made peoples lives measureably better than they were.

The only reason you are bringing this up is so you don't have to acknowledge that the Communist revolutions in China Cuba and Russia improved the lives of most people and happened in a context where they saw no other way but revolution to improve their lives.

That's what I said and its an undeniable historical fact that has nothing to do with the unrelated fact that politicians of all stripes in all countries seem to have alot of rapey scum in their ranks.
 
The lives of German workers improved under the Nazis, but that doesn't make it a good system.
Systems other than communism could have improved China or Cuba at the time. There's nothing really specific about communism that made those improvements.

But your main point is right, it's silly not to acknowledge improvements to people lives under communism when it has occurred.
 
The lives of German workers improved under the Nazis, but that doesn't make it a good system.
Did they? (I really dunno)

I've always thought of right wing revolutionary movements, especially nationalist ones as chasing past glories and trying to get back lost prestige (and resources/wages etc) rather than just trying to get something resembling a half decent life.

Systems other than communism could have improved China or Cuba at the time. There's nothing really specific about communism that made those improvements.

How tho? The only thing about those uprising was they overthrew the former power structure and had to improve the lot of most people (or the people running the revolutions would probably go the same was as the last lot in power. At least at the start.) And the only way that was gonna happen was by violent uprising. Cuba was basically a mafia state. It wasn't gonna be nice to its people ever. In alot of ways Communism is a side issue to the fact it was a chance for change and some sort of self determination. They could have been militant pastafarians running those revolutions and they'd have still happened.

It does always come back to labor v capital tho. Its been that way since the "fall of man".
 
Fwiw neither China or Russia have been communist countries for some time. They function more as monopolistic corporate governments. This has resulted in the abilities of the obligarts and CCP top brass and assosiated cronies getting filthy rich Cuba on the other hand at least a few years back when I was there was operating well and truly as a traditional communist government.

Yeah. Communism in Russia ended. Its more a corporate state now. As for China...

But this is all off the topic I was originally making which I've done to death just upthread.

Altho with Russia it was after the collapse of the USSR that the oligarchs/mafia looted a far bit of the countries wealth, with the support of Western govs, intelligence agencies and financial power. The Russian mafia and the CIA (and MI5/6) have been working with that lot for decades.

Which is completely contrary to what Tas said in the covid thread.
 
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