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[pebblesofsand]

Yes, much more comfortable than the NSW and Queensland heatwaves, which look terrible. I just can't do extreme heat. I went to went to Greece on holiday during a heatwave a few years back, and it was the most miserable two weeks of my life: couldn't sleep, couldn't eat. Beautiful Mediterranean views etc, but I just wanted to get home.

WE did OK yesterday as the sea breeze won the battle against the hot northerlies - stayed under 30C for most of the day.

Then the sea breeze died and at 3.00AM the temp was 35C.

 

[MUFKilda]

WE did OK yesterday as the sea breeze won the battle against the hot northerlies - stayed under 30C for most of the day.

Then the sea breeze died and at 3.00AM the temp was 35C.

That's insane. We never see 35 degrees on the hottest day of the year in the UK, let alone the middle of the night. We don't even cremate the dead at that temperature.

 

[Yawkey way]

Yes, much more comfortable than the NSW and Queensland heatwaves, which look terrible. I just can't do extreme heat. I went to went to Greece on holiday during a heatwave a few years back, and it was the most miserable two weeks of my life: couldn't sleep, couldn't eat. Beautiful Mediterranean views etc, but I just wanted to get home.

It’s funny I’ve spent so much of my life in the pool training and competing, free diving, surfing etc you’d think I’d love the heat.

In fact my wife and I and our children all hate it with a passion, if we have a run of a few days I feel like I’m about to loose my mind.

We’ve mulled over the merits of moving several times but unfortunately with children and family it’s never been the right time. Now their all completing uni, starting careers, getting married etc and of course we’ve grown older so it looks like we’ve missed our chance for a permanent move.

Summers spent somewhere cooler though are a distinct possibility. I just count off the days until we hit mid March and the first puff of clean clear air.

 

[Yawkey way]

That's insane. We never see 35 degrees on the hottest day of the year in the UK, let alone the middle of the night. We don't even cremate the dead at that temperature.

What they don’t tell you is QLD feels like the butterfly enclosure at the zoo when you hop off the plane.

Water tastes like pool water and you never feel dry, beautiful one day perfect the next, yeah right keep it thanks.

 

[Joffaboy]

35 is OK. Gets a bit hard to run in, lots of drink stops, running in shade, but it is good conditioning.
Anything over that, I stay inside.

Yeah its hot, but thats always been Australia.

 

[MUFKilda]

35 is OK. Gets a bit hard to run in, lots of drink stops, running in shade, but it is good conditioning.
Anything over that, I stay inside.

Yeah its hot, but thats always been Australia.

What? It's okay? It's a national emergency!

 

[Johnnyrayflamingo]

Australia is called the sunburnt country for a reason.

Like a lot of places on Earth, humans probably shouldn't be living in some parts of our country on a full time basis...but they still do.

 

[StFly]

What? It's okay? It's a national emergency!

There's 35 and there's 35.

By and large down south you have say 35 with some wind making it feel like 4ish degrees colder than it is, up north you have 35 and it feels heavy because they'd be sitting on monsoon and like 90% dew point whilst south is maybe 2%, so it's dry heat with slight breeze v wet heat, then you'll have say 35 in the interior which is just straight heat and no "cooler" breeze point since desertification.

You get used to it by and large, but yeah, my thermo showed 44.5 at 7pm last night, so 2 hours later I buggered off to see a movie to cool down, came out to around 32 at 10 to midnight and it was fine, slept 8 hours, and it's now around 18 degrees.

As I have some issues with health if it gets entirely too hot, so 45 is pushing it a little bit where the body kinda wants to try and rapidly dehydrate and pass out to repair, you just need to make sure you take proper care depending on your personal situation and you're fine.

 

[MUFKilda]

There's 35 and there's 35.

By and large down south you have say 35 with some wind making it feel like 4ish degrees colder than it is, up north you have 35 and it feels heavy because they'd be sitting on monsoon and like 90% dew point whilst south is maybe 2%, so it's dry heat with slight breeze v wet heat, then you'll have say 35 in the interior which is just straight heat and no "cooler" breeze point since desertification.

You get used to it by and large, but yeah, my thermo showed 44.5 at 7pm last night, so 2 hours later I buggered off to see a movie to cool down, came out to around 32 at 10 to midnight and it was fine, slept 8 hours, and it's now around 18 degrees.

As I have some issues with health if it gets entirely too hot, so 45 is pushing it a little bit where the body kinda wants to try and rapidly dehydrate and pass out to repair, you just need to make sure you take proper care depending on your personal situation and you're fine.

Great understatement. I would rather be dead than experience 45 degrees; it's a form of torture. Give me British weather every time!

 

[gringo2011]

China on the cusp of a coal-fired power boom, threatening global targets

China is both the world's biggest polluter and the biggest investor in renewables, but a new host of new coal-fired power plants is worrying climate experts.

www.theage.com.au

Nothing new, it does add some sobering evidence for the one in all in approach and exposes the equity and equality gag.

Yeah, this is a dipterous move for the planet. China and the US are playing chicken with each other on everything from trade, currency equity and environmental issues. It's like a race to the bottom for greed and supremacy.

 

[gringo2011]

35 is OK. Gets a bit hard to run in, lots of drink stops, running in shade, but it is good conditioning.
Anything over that, I stay inside.

Yeah its hot, but thats always been Australia.

Yeah I went up to Gippsland yesterday to clear scrub for bushfire season. I couldn't use power tools so all with an axe and hoe. I used the bull bar to pull a few stumps out and carried them all off to a pile by hand because you couldn't turn the car around. It was 37 on the car dash but didn't feel too bad near the river. I had to drink about 5 litres of water though. It's amazing what you can do when you have to. I wasn't going to get too many chances before I go away and had it booked in so had to go yesterday despite the heat. I reckon I got more done than usual.

 

[gringo2011]

What they don’t tell you is QLD feels like the butterfly enclosure at the zoo when you hop off the plane.

Water tastes like pool water and you never feel dry, beautiful one day perfect the next, yeah right keep it thanks.

You don't like the tropics then? I love tropical weather.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Yesterday evening I had the back room AC going. Normally that only goes on when its real hot. Normally the evaporative does the job.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

It's all about the side, not the facts and common sense these days.

The average political debate has become like supporting a football team No matter what anyone says or whatever the facts say you think your side is the best.

 

[gringo2011]

The State of the Climate report finds CO2 at levels not seen in 800,000 years

BOM and CSIRO's biennial State of the Climate report has just been released and there is no let up in rising trends with fire danger, extreme heat days, ocean temperatures, ocean acidity and heavy rainfall all up.

www.abc.net.au

 

[gringo2011]

There's 35 and there's 35.

By and large down south you have say 35 with some wind making it feel like 4ish degrees colder than it is, up north you have 35 and it feels heavy because they'd be sitting on monsoon and like 90% dew point whilst south is maybe 2%, so it's dry heat with slight breeze v wet heat, then you'll have say 35 in the interior which is just straight heat and no "cooler" breeze point since desertification.

You get used to it by and large, but yeah, my thermo showed 44.5 at 7pm last night, so 2 hours later I buggered off to see a movie to cool down, came out to around 32 at 10 to midnight and it was fine, slept 8 hours, and it's now around 18 degrees.

As I have some issues with health if it gets entirely too hot, so 45 is pushing it a little bit where the body kinda wants to try and rapidly dehydrate and pass out to repair, you just need to make sure you take proper care depending on your personal situation and you're fine.

I was in Port Augusta at 45 or 47 a few years back, I can't remember which was which with Wilpena, but **** me dead it was like you were in a giant hair dryer. Your eye balls dehydrated and walking from the car to go inside the petrol station made you gasp for air which burnt your lungs. Out there it seemed a lot hotter than it did in Melbourne yesterday.

 

[Premium]

I was in Port Augusta at 45 or 47 a few years back, I can't remember which was which with Wilpena, but fu** me dead it was like you were in a giant hair dryer. Your eye balls dehydrated and walking from the car to go inside the petrol station made you gasp for air which burnt your lungs. Out there it seemed a lot hotter than it did in Melbourne yesterday.

Some places seem hotter , I know I get sunburnt worse in Perth than I do in Asia.

 

[gringo2011]

Some places seem hotter , I know I get sunburnt worse in Perth than I do in Asia.

Yeah, Australia definitely burns you much worse. We have a hole over the antarctic that lets in more UV than in Europe or equator line countries.

 

[Mowman]

The average political debate has become like supporting a football team No matter what anyone says or whatever the facts say you think your side is the best.

So true it’s just cheap point scoring

 

[gringo2011]

So true it’s just cheap point scoring

I reckon that's facebook. They basically have an algorithm that sends you stuff that is similar to what they think you like. If you like a couple of white suprmists sites that's what they feed you, like stuff about climate change that's what gets sent to you. You don't get a counter balance argument. It makes you black and white in your thinking. I have friends who have different political opinion to me and try not to be a dick and play teams and we get on fine. Most people mean well and want the same thing. I still get caught up in outrage articles and patronising memes though because I'm a bit of a w***er and think I'm smarter than people who don't think the same as I do.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Yeah, Australia definitely burns you much worse. We have a hole over the antarctic that lets in more UV than in Europe or equator line countries.

My last trip to QLD in 2006 I was in the pool all day. I ended up with scale models in blisters of Ulurlu on my shoulders.

I reckon that's facebook. They basically have an algorithm that sends you stuff that is similar to what they think you like. If you like a couple of white suprmists sites that's what they feed you, like stuff about climate change that's what gets sent to you. You don't get a counter balance argument. It makes you black and white in your thinking. I have friends who have different political opinion to me and try not to be a dick and play teams and we get on fine. Most people mean well and want the same thing. I still get caught up in outrage articles and patronising memes though because I'm a bit of a w***er and think I'm smarter than people who don't think the same as I do.

Its even twitter as well. Lately Im seeing tweets from people I dont even follow but all about the same topics.

It just ends up being an echo chamber.
In other news.
Twice Ive gone to the bar and twice Ive fooled the bloke serving by presenting cash instead of a card.

 

[gringo2011]

Scientists explain why this summer is 'smashing the extremes'

Australia narrowly misses out on making it three in a row for its hottest-ever days, but other temperature records continue to tumble by big margins.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Crusty Undies]

Why do you consider Australia has the capability to drive change.
Please give an example taking into account our actual size and significance, politically and environmentally.

We drove forward the change of wifi as opposed to tethered internet. Pacemakers are pretty important. Google maps obsoleted an entire industry. Polymer bank notes, bionic ears, cordless drills, ultrasounds and some cancer vaccines are all Australian. We don't drive change by being the most dominant world power, we never have and never will. We drive change by setting an example that everyone else is inclined to follow. We are were a technological nation before the Abbott administration took over and we've since gutted the majority of our science industry but we still have the capacity to again revolutionize tech and set a better example.

 

[StFly]

I was in Port Augusta at 45 or 47 a few years back, I can't remember which was which with Wilpena, but fu** me dead it was like you were in a giant hair dryer. Your eye balls dehydrated and walking from the car to go inside the petrol station made you gasp for air which burnt your lungs. Out there it seemed a lot hotter than it did in Melbourne yesterday.

Oh don't get me wrong, I was flying to Manchester and since I chose Etihad had a layover in Abu Dhabi.

5:10am arrival, outside degrees 52c.

Landing with the intention that since I had a couple hours to kill, I'd take a look around the airport, almost choked to death. The sheer amount of just shit in the airm pollution wise coupled with it being 5am in the morning and you could literally fry an egg on the windows. I marched back inside, slept awkwardly on some shit chairs in the terminal and went to Manchester where it was a blamy 22 with light rain and people were in shorts and sweating.

Blew my goddamn mind.

 

[Nutsngum]

It's all about the side, not the facts and common sense these days.

I really detest when things like these natural bushfires (some lit by firebugs btw) get used for political purposes. Its so wrong, wrong, wrong.

Everything in your life right now at some point was developed by either scientists or engineers. The car you drive, the medicines you take, the skyscrapers you live or work in. You entrust all of these things to not only benefit your life but also not to harm you. You put your literal life in the hands of these people everyday.

Then these same people tell you that climate change exists and that it can have dire consequences for our planet and suddenly they are not trustworthy in your eyes.

Then again, I too hate when actual firemen bring up governmental issues about how they are restricted in doing their jobs. How dare they bring politics into such a natural thing right?