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[VDS66]

Probably explains why youve got such a hairy ass

Hairy as... and hung like a donkey... long ears as well.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Thanks guys, I was wondering why we were having a sale named after what sounded like a bush fire. I thought it must have been where someone drove around pinching shit from peoples houses after the fires and selling it all on eBay.

Maybe i can get rich promoting Boxing Day Sales in Saudia Arabia.

 

[gringo2011]

Maybe i can get rich promoting Boxing Day Sales in Saudia Arabia.

Christmas sale in Israel sounds good too. That said, Christmas took off in Japan.

 

[VDS66]

Christmas sale in Israel sounds good too. That said, Christmas took off in Japan.

Terrorist on a shelf?

 

[RoundCubic]

Christmas sale in Israel sounds good too. That said, Christmas took off in Japan.

Good Friday sales in Israel would be even better

 

[VDS66]

Good Friday sales in Israel would be even better

Imagine the run on nail guns...

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Anyone here own/follow Bitcoin/crypto currency?
F*** the last 12 months have been a ride!

 

[gringo2011]

Anyone here own/follow Bitcoin/crypto currency?
F*** the last 12 months have been a ride!

No did you buy some? That was some investment if you did. I would sell and run soon, that looks like a completely unsustainable bubble right there. That said I would have thought that a long time ago.

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

Imagine the run on nail guns...

I want to 'like' that post but I feel that if I do I'm gonna seriously raise my chance of being struck by lightning.
Best not to poke the bear.

 

[VDS66]

I want to 'like' that post but I feel that if I do I'm gonna seriously raise my chance of being struck by lightning.
Best not to poke the bear.

Being a Catholic and ex altar boy, I have no problem with it.

Heard a great line the other day...

"Why do Christians believe that Jesus will return... it's not as if he was nailed to a boomerang"

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

Triple J changing the date of their hottest 100 from Australia Day to the 4th weekend of January...
has sure fired up some conversation .. Triple J say they changed their hottest 100 count down to distance it from the debate about January 26..

its funny how this date change debate gets people all fired up.. i can totally understand the point of the Aboriginal people that the date represents the start of the slaughter of their people and how it can be insensitive and diversive for them , what i dont understand is the fight of the keep the date side of the issue January 26 to non-indig people doesnt hold any cultural sentiment it was only in 1935 that the date nationally was regognised as Australia Day and it wasnt until 1994 that it was nationally held as a public holiday..

 

[Yawkey way]

Triple J changing the date of their hottest 100 from Australia Day to the 4th weekend of January...
has sure fired up some conversation .. Triple J say they changed their hottest 100 count down to distance it from the debate about January 26..

its funny how this date change debate gets people all fired up.. i can totally understand the point of the Aboriginal people that the date represents the start of the slaughter of their people and how it can be insensitive and diversive for them , what i dont understand is the fight of the keep the date side of the issue January 26 to non-indig people doesnt hold any cultural sentiment it was only in 1935 that the date nationally was regognised as Australia Day and it wasnt until 1994 that it was nationally held as a public holiday..

It's a difficult situation, it's hard to imagine that aboriginal Australians will ever be happy with the fact that Capt. Arthur Phillip raised the flag on the 26 of January.

The day has been celebrated in some form for the best part of 200 years and I would argue that it does indeed have significance for many Australians.

I'm no historian but whenever I read history or watch documentaries it is astounding how many countries have been invaded and effectively colonised, many multiple times including Britain.

Where does this all end st trav and where in history do we stop the clock. It seems to me that no matter when we choose somebody is going to be pretty aggrieved.

I also find it a strange form of racism that it appears many people don't seem to count invasion and collinisation unless it was committed by Europeans on non Europeans.

I'll probably piss a few people off and some may view my opinion as racist, I hope you don't it's just my honest view of what is a complicated and many faceted argument.

 

[StCicatriz]

It's a difficult situation, it's hard to imagine that aboriginal Australians will ever be happy with the fact that Capt. Arthur Phillip raised the flag on the 26 of January.

The day has been celebrated in some form for the best part of 200 years and I would argue that it does indeed have significance for many Australians.

I'm no historian but whenever I read history or watch documentaries it is astounding how many countries have been invaded and effectively colonised, many multiple times including Britain.

Where does this all end st trav and where in history do we stop the clock. It seems to me that no matter when we choose somebody is going to be pretty aggrieved.

I also find it a strange form of racism that it appears many people don't seem to count invasion and collinisation unless it was committed by Europeans on non Europeans.

I'll probably piss a few people off and some may view my opinion as racists, I hope you don't it's just my honest view of what is a complicated and many faceted argument.

i'm in favor of changing the date

but i agree with your last sentence. people have this warped view of racism, like it can only occur from a white man

every race and culture has had its issues when its in a position of power. genocide and violence still occurred on this continent prior to the white man arriving

 

[CursingFijian]

It's a difficult situation, it's hard to imagine that aboriginal Australians will ever be happy with the fact that Capt. Arthur Phillip raised the flag on the 26 of January.

The day has been celebrated in some form for the best part of 200 years and I would argue that it does indeed have significance for many Australians.

I'm no historian but whenever I read history or watch documentaries it is astounding how many countries have been invaded and effectively colonised, many multiple times including Britain.

Where does this all end st trav and where in history do we stop the clock. It seems to me that no matter when we choose somebody is going to be pretty aggrieved.

I also find it a strange form of racism that it appears many people don't seem to count invasion and collinisation unless it was committed by Europeans on non Europeans.

I'll probably piss a few people off and some may view my opinion as racists, I hope you don't it's just my honest view of what is a complicated and many faceted argument.

Is your handle ‘Yawkey Way’ a reference to the Boston Red Sox? And have you taken it up as a demonstration of your opposition to the proposed renaming of Yawkey Way?

Genuinely interested to know.

 

[Yawkey way]

Is your handle ‘Yawkey Way’ a reference to the Boston Red Sox? And have you taken it up as a demonstration of your opposition to the proposed renaming of Yawkey Way?

Genuinely interested to know.

Yes it is a reference to the Red Sox and no it's not any form of demonstration.

Certain facts about the former owner have been widely publicised in recent times and whilst it won't change history I have no objection to it being renamed.

I like the views of New Orleans mayor Mitch laundrieu when it comes to condereate statues and similar issues. I don't think it's about rewriting the past or one group getting a win over another, it's about moving forward to a better future.

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

It's a difficult situation, it's hard to imagine that aboriginal Australians will ever be happy with the fact that Capt. Arthur Phillip raised the flag on the 26 of January.

The day has been celebrated in some form for the best part of 200 years and I would argue that it does indeed have significance for many Australians.

I'm no historian but whenever I read history or watch documentaries it is astounding how many countries have been invaded and effectively colonised, many multiple times including Britain.

Where does this all end st trav and where in history do we stop the clock. It seems to me that no matter when we choose somebody is going to be pretty aggrieved.

I also find it a strange form of racism that it appears many people don't seem to count invasion and collinisation unless it was committed by Europeans on non Europeans.

I'll probably piss a few people off and some may view my opinion as racists, I hope you don't it's just my honest view of what is a complicated and many faceted argument.

i possibly am very biased in this discussion due to a friend i made in the last couple of years really changing my point of view on a lot of aboriginal issues. But outside of the aboriginal part of the date i have though Jan 26 is more a NSW day more than an Australia day Arthur Phillip really was only claiming Sydney with his flag the rest of the country was not known Arthur Phillip had no idea how large of a land mass he was claiming. I feel Willem Janszoon discovering Cape York in 1605 and then the West Coast in 1618 is more signifcant as these were discoveries without invasion..

but as for where does it stop i think for australia it stops once we change the date we celebrate our nation , really most nations celebrate their national day on a date that shows their nation breaking free of oppression not celebrating the day it started. i think the issue isnt having a national day but its about having a national day based on the start of a slaughter i get that Australia day doesnt represent that and the whole premiss for the day is to celebrate who we are but its origins are still pretty sinister . to me its a public holiday to celebrate being australian it doesnt have to be on the day the invasion started it could be any day and it wont make a differance but to the aboriginal people it is a signifigant day and if changing it doesnt negativly effect us and possitivly effects them then surely thats a no brain decision ...

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

i'm in favor of changing the date

but i agree with your last sentence. people have this warped view of racism, like it can only occur from a white man

every race and culture has had its issues when its in a position of power. genocide and violence still occurred on this continent prior to the white man arriving

tribal wars and fighting for territory is a fair bit differant to the erradication of people ... you are right that racism isnt owned by the whiteman

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

Yes it is a reference to the Red Sox and no it's not any form of demonstration.

Certain facts about the former owner have been widely publicised in recent times and whilst it won't change history I have no objection to it being renamed.

I like the views of New Orleans mayor Mitch laundrieu when it comes to condereate statues and similar issues. I don't think it's about rewriting the past or one group getting a win over another, it's about moving forward to a better future.

i think this is the big point... our past is our past we cant change what our ancestors did but we can acknowledge what they did and we can be respectful to the damage that it started in the following generations. once we do that i thing we can move on a learn from the mistakes from the past. As it stands at the moment there are people who want to ignore the fact our past was ugly because the fairy tail we were originally taught about our country was easier to stomach

 

[Yawkey way]

i possibly am very biased in this discussion due to a friend i made in the last couple of years really changing my point of view on a lot of aboriginal issues. But outside of the aboriginal part of the date i have though Jan 26 is more a NSW day more than an Australia day Arthur Phillip really was only claiming Sydney with his flag the rest of the country was not known Arthur Phillip had no idea how large of a land mass he was claiming. I feel Willem Janszoon discovering Cape York in 1605 and then the West Coast in 1618 is more signifcant as these were discoveries without invasion..

but as for where does it stop i think for australia it stops once we change the date we celebrate our nation , really most nations celebrate their national day on a date that shows their nation breaking free of oppression not celebrating the day it started. i think the issue isnt having a national day but its about having a national day based on the start of a slaughter i get that Australia day doesnt represent that and the whole premiss for the day is to celebrate who we are but its origins are still pretty sinister . to me its a public holiday to celebrate being australian it doesnt have to be on the day the invasion started it could be any day and it wont make a differance but to the aboriginal people it is a signifigant day and if changing it doesnt negativly effect us and possitivly effects them then surely thats a no brain decision ...

That sounds reasonable although I don't see it happening in the near future, just so long as it doesn't end in another postal vote.

Do our politicians actually lead the way on anything.

 

[StCicatriz]

tribal wars and fighting for territory is a fair bit differant to the erradication of people ... you are right that racism isnt owned by the whiteman

well that's the thing, it wasnt just a tribal war or fighting for territory, it literally was the "erradication of people". in one case there was an isolated group of indigineous people that were killed off by another group of indigineous people, it was not a land matter due to the isolation, nor was it the usual conflict or "war"

i know you know this trav so i hope i'm not coming off as condescending, but within the indigenous population is literally hundreds of different groups

there are documented cases of one group trying to eradicate the other and successfully doing so. its not a whiteman thing, its the human condition. differences lead to conflict and conflict can lead to genocide, when one group is much more powerful than the other

the unfortunate thing is that it still happens to this day and we still havent learnt from thousands of years of mistakes

 

[austinnn]

Caroline Wilson steps down as chief Football Writer for The Age, replaced by returning hack Jake Niall. Not a fan of his, but better than some. Baum and Flanagan the best writers there, no one else that impressive, but I guess The Age is a bit irrelevant these days sadly.

 

[sunny3193]

Australia Day should be celebrated on the first Monday in November.
Melbourne gets a four day long weekend, everywhere else gets three.
What could be more Australian than enshrining the National Day into a long weekend?

 

[sunny3193]

Caroline Wilson steps down as chief Football Writer for The Age, replaced by returning hack Jake Niall. Not a fan of his, but better than some. Baum and Flanagan the best writers there, no one else that impressive, but I guess The Age is a bit irrelevant these days sadly.

No loss.

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

That sounds reasonable although I don't see it happening in the near future, just so long as it doesn't end in another postal vote.

Do our politicians actually lead the way on anything.

they wont do a public vote on it because they dont have "religious frredoms" to hide behind and neither of the two main parties will want to open up the can of worms to change it not this generation at least .. its an issue that will continue to be pushed under the rug

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

well that's the thing, it wasnt just a tribal war or fighting for territory, it literally was the "erradication of people". in one case there was an isolated group of indigineous people that were killed off by another group of indigineous people, it was not a land matter due to the isolation, nor was it the usual conflict or "war"

i know you know this trav so i hope i'm not coming off as condescending, but within the indigenous population is literally hundreds of different groups

there are documented cases of one group trying to eradicate the other and successfully doing so. its not a whiteman thing, its the human condition. differences lead to conflict and conflict can lead to genocide, when one group is much more powerful than the other

the unfortunate thing is that it still happens to this day and we still havent learnt from thousands of years of mistakes

of course im not advocating that the original inhabitants of our lands were all in harmony and the place was a utopia there was class divides between tribes there was forms of slavery between tribes and yeah whole tribes were wiped out but the hardship that became of all of the tribes of Australia was ten fold once the english got here ...