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Re: Saints

Originally posted by Falchoon

Senior players

10 - Top shelf flankers and pocket players, Cornes and Tredrea firing, Nick Stevens and Peter Burgoyne have lifted since Francou did his knee, level headed tall defenders.



Wishful thinking?:D

Or is Thomas the king of trading.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Poiys

Originally posted by Jars458
We are useless. All teams can afford to take us easy. We are not a threat.
Well duh.
 
Re: Saints

Originally posted by Falchoon

Senior players

10 - Top shelf flankers and pocket players, Cornes and Tredrea firing, Nick Stevens and Peter Burgoyne have lifted since Francou did his knee, level headed tall defenders.
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Agree with the rating- a quality group of senior players. I think the biggest problem is that they have only played in the same game as most of your players for one game this year, and that was for the other team.
 

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Originally posted by Magpie Magician
I'll have a go at rating Essendon:

- Depth 3 Jobe Watson? lmao

- Flexibility 5

- Young talent 2 Jobe Watson? lmao

- Senior players 4 They're either always injured or always getting suspended.

- Attack 6 Lloyd only with a few good games a year by Cupido. Hird when he plays forward.

- Defence 5 Fletcher? lmao Wellman only.

- Midfield 4

- Coaching staff 1 Sheedy is long past it and Harvey can't get a gig anywhere.

- Consistency 3 Consistently good at underachieving.

Well done **** head.
 
Re: Re: Re: Rate your(please restrain yourself from making it godlike)

Originally posted by Magpie Magician
I'll have a go at rating Essendon:

- Depth 3 Jobe Watson? lmao

- Flexibility 5

- Young talent 2 Jobe Watson? lmao

- Senior players 4 They're either always injured or always getting suspended.

- Attack 6 Lloyd only with a few good games a year by Cupido. Hird when he plays forward.

- Defence 5 Fletcher? lmao Wellman only.

- Midfield 4

- Coaching staff 1 Sheedy is long past it and Harvey can't get a gig anywhere.

- Consistency 3 Consistently good at underachieving.

Still doesn`t explain Anzac Day this year.
 
Re: Collingwood

Collingwood:

Depth-1 When Neon Leon, and Molloy are still getting games, you really have no replacements.

Flexibility 3 - No KPP flexibility. (Do you ever see Tarrant, Presti, Rocca swap ends?), but Rocca does ruck sometimes.

Young Talent 1 - Probably the most overrated youngsters in the comp. Very little to get excited about.

Mid tier player 7 - One thing the drafts did give them.

Senior players 2 - One great senior player, but with dubious leadership qualities. Most other order players are journeymen.

Attack 7 Potentially very good, but miss a Nick Davis type medium forward with good kiciking.

Defence - 3 Only the best defensive coach in the league could make them half decent. Pity he coaches the swans. Malthouse does his best.

Midfield 5 - Big on names, poor on team work.

Coaching staff 6 - Micks finding it hard without a state side.

Consistency 2 Next to no consistancy this season despite a "dream" draw.

Harsh, but fair.
 
Doggies

Depth - 4
Flexibility - 5
Young Talent - 7
Mid Tier Players - 5
Senior Players - 8
Attack - 7
Defence - 3
Midfield - 7
Coaching - 4
Consistency - 10
 
- Depth 5.5: Average players like Wheatley, Moorcroft and Rigoni at Sandy.

- Flexibility 7: Neitz, Bizzell, Bruce and Yze can all play in different positions, and they are 4 of our best players.

- Young talent 6.5: Good players such as Bell, Rivers and Hunter in reserves, but only Miller is a regular senior player under the age of 20.

- Senior players 8: Neitz is 28, and still our best player.

- Attack 7.5: Neitz, Green and Miller are a good combination.

- Defence 4: Have no tall defenders. OK smalls, but overall pretty crappy.

- Midfield 7: Yze, Johnstone, Heffernan and Bruce all ooze class.

- Coaching staff 5: Ordinary.

- Consistency 0: Up one year, down the next.
 
- Depth 6: Not great, but not too bad. Plenty of average players at Sandy if there are injuries.

- Flexibility 7: Plenty of flexibility with a number of players being able to play a large number of roles.

- Young talent 7: Plenty of young talent, but it will take time. Players like Hunter, Rivers and Smith should get games during the rest of the year.

- Senior players 5: After Neitz there is not much else there. Oldest players on the list Neitz, Rigoni and Ellis are 28, and we have a large number of youngsters.

- Attack 6: Very Neitz, Green, Robertson reliant. Vardy (injury) and Moorcroft have had little to no impact this year.

- Defence 4: Have drafted a lot of young talls, but until they develop this will be a major weakness. Smalls in Ward, Walsh, Whelan & Brown are quality, but light on for quality talls. Ferguson has been a real find.

- Midfield 6.5: Plenty of quality, but the depth has been weakened with the loss of Woewodin and Powell, Yze playing injured and TJ off the boil.

- Coaching staff 4: Average. Daniher hasn't put enough disipline into the side, Royal can't get a senior gig and the rest are untried.

- Consistency 0: Enough said.
 
- Depth(How good is your club's player list's depth, does it have a great spread of talent?)

I think Port are in the top echelon of teams concerning depth. More than any other year we have been injury riddled this year...a lot of good players have missed quite a few games, yet we are still top. Our 'reserves' players are regularly amongst the best players in their SANFL clubs. We have 3 young midfielders (Hall, Salopek, Ebert) who are picking up 30 touches each week in the SANFL, our young talls perform fairly well and there is always 4-5 players putting their name forward for selection. Guerra cant get a game and hes kicking 6 goals a week at Centrals.

10/10

- Flexibility

Our flexibility is ok. We have a number of players you can play different roles in the side and younger players taht can come in and fill a position (Guerra, Poulton, Thurstans for example).

7/10

- Young talent (are they something to write home about?)

I believe our young talent is quite good. Salopek has shown promise in his games this year, Thurstans has shown he will be valuable in future years, Cassisi performs ok, Shaun Burgoyne is a deadset star, then there is our SANFL youngsters who are performing great (Hall, Ebert...even Koula is getting in the top 3 best for West each week).

7/10

- Senior players (are they playing at their peak or wasting space)

A lot of our senior players arent even near their peak yet - P Burgoyne, Carr, Tredrea, Cornes, Dew, Brogan, Stevens are all under 24/25 years of age. Our older senior players still perform a a very high level - Primus and Monty and Francou were AA last year, Hardwick wasnt far off either, Wanganeen is one of the Brownlow favourites.

9/10

- Attack

We have the best tall forward setup in the league with Tredders and Cornes. Our smaller forwards always kick goals - Burgoynex2, Pickett and Dew. I believe we have one of the best attacks in the league.

9/10

- Defence

Ageing and often get caught a fair bit behind their opponents on the lead but stats show we have the 2nd or 3rd best defence in the league this year. Need some new faces tho.

7/10

- Midfield

Always does the job.

8/10.

- Coaching staff

Up and down. If we are getting done then we seem to lack other optiosn and other gameplans to try and counteract things. Its fairly easy to tell early on that we are gonna lose.

5/10

- Consistency

I reckon we are a fairly consistent outfit. We have the odd fluff match but we tend to perform at the same level thruout the whole year.

7/10.
 
Richmond

Depth-3
lol... ours is terrible. We have about 15 that arent bad but from then on the ship just sinks

Flexability-6.5
Have a few that can play in different positions. eg: Bowden up forward, Newman from a back pocket to a centreman and Holland, Hall can both play Forward/Back

Young Talent-7
Coughlan, Newman, Rodan, Zantuck, Krakouer. All really not bad players about 21-22 (?). A few more couldnt hurt though.

Senior Players-7
Not bad. Campbell, Richo, Stafford, Gas, Duncan, Rogers, Cameron

Attack-7
One day, Richo, Ottens/Stafford, Krakouer, Rodan, Blumfield will all fire. As Tiger of Old said, one of the best on paper but also one of the most frustrating.

Defence-9
A.K, Gas, Chaff, Zanners all brilliant backman. Richmond missing Gasper a lot!

Midfield-6.5
Still have a way to go. Has improved with the addition of Kane Johnson. Mark Coughlan is a superstar.

Coaching staff-2
Wayne Brittan is a great Assistance Coach.


Consistency-4
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Originally posted by SCRAY72
Doggies

Depth - 4
Flexibility - 5
Young Talent - 7
Mid Tier Players - 5
Senior Players - 8
Attack - 7
Defence - 3
Midfield - 7
Coaching - 4
Consistency - 10
Another view for the Dogs.

Depth - 2 (There's no-one with 20+ games who isn't in the team injury excluded)
Flexibility - 2 (Too many wingmen, not enough KPP)
Young Talent - 6 (Still alot of maybes, could be very good)
Mid Tier Players - 3 (Not many who would qualify as tradebait)
Senior Players - 7 (Some real quality, but glaring gaps)
Attack - 5 (Too short, but we still score reasonably)
Defence - 1 (Have to be close to worst in the League)
Midfield - 6 (Some quality, but a bit slow and not tough enough)
Coaching - 4 (Too early to be too negative but not good signs)
Consistency - 9 (Consistently crap with bouts of reasonableness)
 
Collingwood

Depth-4
not great. Only 4-5 VFL players capable of stepping up. Deficient in ruck (although McKee always gives 100%)

Flexability-6
KPP not at all flexible (except Rocca can ruck and Tarrant HFF). Midfield can all play a number of roles however and are extremely flexible

Young Talent-6
Didak, Cole, Tarrant (still young), Fraser (still young). Need more youth but Buckley is our only "old" player

Senior Players-8
Buckley Burns Licuria Rocca Tarrant Woewodin Fraser Johnson Clement

Attack-7
Inconsistent but improving. Extremely dangerous on a good day. We miss Davis but Williams is a good pickup and Didak has great potential

Defence-8.5
Solid. Presti is the tightest in the business, Cloke, Wakelin and Johnson all do their different jobs (not always pretty). Clement and Lonie the playmakers.

Midfield-9
Excellent. Hard working, Woewodin has added some polish this year that we missed last year. Holland has also stepped up

Coaching staff-9
Not fussed about anybody except MM


Consistency-4
Reasonable. A couple of bad losses this year though, as per last year. Starting to string a few together now (not against the top sides though)
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Hawthorn

- Depth 7/10 - Box Hill dominating the VFL at the moment suggests we have quite a few very good fringe players. Probably not too many back ups re KPPs though

- Flexibility - 6/10 Rawlings has been good at both ends of the ground, as has Barlow, Barker even Holland. When things aren't going right though, we seem to lack a Plan B

- Young talent - 9/10 Mitchell, Osborne (could place in our B&F this year), Bateman, Brown all look like future players of note. Hodge (if he can get fit) will be awesome. Williams could be very handy if the club would only give him more of a chance.

- Senior players - 7/10 Crawford, Lekkas, Hay, Smith, Dixon have been great this year but injuries to Barker, Holland, Everitt, Thompson have really hurt us.

- Attack -5/10 we still lack a player capable of kicking 50 goals a year. Potentially a 8/10 but once again the inability to keep big forwards on the ground because of injury hurts us big time

- Defence -8/10 Hay is back in fine form, Smith has nearly returned to AA form, Rawlings works admirably, Osborne and Bateman have been great as the small backmen, Graham has been putting in hard

- Midfield -8/10 Crawford has been fantastic, Mitchell has nailed down the centre this year, Vandenberg is returning to good form, Lekkas remains our most consistent performer, Everitt has given us a lot via great tap work and Campbell continues to improve

- Coaching staff -3/10 A bit harsh on Schwab who has turned around the fortunes of the club in the past month but it might be a case of too little, too late. Can engage in some bewildering decisions (e.g. leaving Rawlings on the bench in the last quarter against the Lions while Leppitsch went beserk). A big cross next to our rehab staff - the amount and severity of soft-tissue injuries at Hawthorn has been shocking. We've used the most players of any club this year which makes it hard to settle a side.

- Consistency -1/10 This the real ugly one for Hawthorn. The difference between our worst and our best is huge. There have been times this year when Hawthorn have looked like the worst side in the competition (think against Essendon, last half against Richmond) or times when they are close to the best (see against Collingwood). We can't expect to be a genuine finals contender until we iron out this problem with the team.
 
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Sydney


- Depth 7/10 - Not really tested this year, but young players have been rotated through the team with good success.

- Flexibility - 8/10 - Far more than any previous Swans side in the last 10 years.

- Young talent - 9/10 - Very exciting youngsters have stepped up this year. Next year is the big test.

- Senior players - 7/10 - Sharing the load, but not as relyed upon as prevous years. Ball has been very handy.

- Attack -10/10 - Possibly the best forward line in the comp.

- Defence -6/10 Stood up well in statistics, but missing one KPP. We have one who could step in there, but I dare not mention his name.

- Midfield -3/10 Sydney's weak point, and the one area they will have to trade in talent with Cressa retiring. Aker...come on down.

- Coaching staff -9/10 Roos doing well. Finals will be a big test.

- Consistency -8/10 - Winning the close games we lost last year. Few hicups early in the year, but coasting along well now.
 
Originally posted by K9-54
Another view for the Dogs.

Depth - 2 (There's no-one with 20+ games who isn't in the team injury excluded)
Flexibility - 2 (Too many wingmen, not enough KPP)
Young Talent - 6 (Still alot of maybes, could be very good)
Mid Tier Players - 3 (Not many who would qualify as tradebait)
Senior Players - 7 (Some real quality, but glaring gaps)
Attack - 5 (Too short, but we still score reasonably)
Defence - 1 (Have to be close to worst in the League)
Midfield - 6 (Some quality, but a bit slow and not tough enough)
Coaching - 4 (Too early to be too negative but not good signs)
Consistency - 9 (Consistently crap with bouts of reasonableness)

We agree on everything K9-54, it's just you are a harder marker.
 
Re: Re: Rate your(please restrain yourself from making it godlike)

Originally posted by Rusty Brookes
Hawthorn

- Defence -8/10 Hay is back in fine form, Smith has nearly returned to AA form, Rawlings works admirably, Osborne and Bateman have been great as the small backmen, Graham has been putting in hard

- Midfield -8/10 Crawford has been fantastic, Mitchell has nailed down the centre this year, Vandenberg is returning to good form, Lekkas remains our most consistent performer, Everitt has given us a lot via great tap work and Campbell continues to improve

Not a bad assessment, Rusty, but these categories are too high and need to be marked down to seven and six respectively. The latter will reach 8 next season if Mitchell & Hodge remain fit and Ries can lift a little.

Kevin
 

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Sydney


- Depth 4 - Extremely lucky this year with injuries especially in the ruck

- Flexibility - 5 Its easy to be flexible when you play on a toy ground. Yet to be tested against quality sides at real footbal stadiums.

- Young talent - 4 Only Schneider and Kenneally. Luckily a few middle aged players have stepped up this year to disguise the Swans weakness in the youth department (Kirk, Barry etc)

- Senior players 5 Nobody of note. All sharing the load which has its good points and its bad points

- Attack 5 Stolen a couple of handy players in recent years. Apart from that see above comments re toy ground

- Defence 5 Halfbacks ok but no CHB or FB. Schaubles weaknesses are well disguised on - you guessed it - the toy ground

- Midfield -4 One of the worst in the competition.

- Coaching staff -6 Roos doing ok to date.

- Consistency -6 Playing pretty well - probably above themselves [/B][/QUOTE]
 
Why do Collingwood supporters, and Collingwood supporters only, feel the need to assess other teams whilst giving God-like ratings to their club (who happens to only be holding onto 6th spot by percentage)?

mongrelpunt's assessment of the Essendon Footy Club was a spot on and realistic synopsis. Why can't deluded Collingwood fans follow suit?

Oh and Magician, how does it feel being thumped to the tune of 11 goals by a team so lowly ranked?
 
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Originally posted by hotpie
Sydney


- Depth 4 - Extremely lucky this year with injuries especially in the ruck
Forgot Doyle? Dont worry he's due back soon.


- Flexibility - 5 Its easy to be flexible when you play on a toy ground. Yet to be tested against quality sides at real footbal stadiums.
We've played everyone in the comp this year. And only a half dozen at the SCG which is not a toy ground (unless you beleive the WC sore losers)



- Young talent - 4 Only Schneider and Kenneally. Luckily a few middle aged players have stepped up this year to disguise the Swans weakness in the youth department (Kirk, Barry etc)
Surely you are joking.


- Senior players 5 Nobody of note. All sharing the load which has its good points and its bad points
- Attack 5 Stolen a couple of handy players in recent years. Apart from that see above comments re toy ground

Swans forward line is the most efficient in the league. Enough said.



- Defence 5 Halfbacks ok but no CHB or FB. Schaubles weaknesses are well disguised on - you guessed it - the toy ground
Schaubles doing fine. You'd love him back, but you cant have him.


- Midfield -4 One of the worst in the competition.
Far from the worst, but will be improved next year.

- Coaching staff -6 Roos doing ok to date.
Just ok?


- Consistency -6 Playing pretty well - probably above themselves

Above themselves? You'd be the expert on that.
 
Originally posted by topdon
Why do Collingwood supporters, and Collingwood supporters only, feel the need to assess other teams whilst giving God-like ratings to their club (who happens to only be holding onto 6th spot by percentage)?

mongrelpunt's assessment of the Essendon Footy Club was a spot on and realistic synopsis. Why can't deluded Collingwood fans follow suit?

Self defence
 
Originally posted by Lockyer24
grayham

good players on his beloved swannies list who actually werent stolen from collingwood: 0

Fair point. Who are you going to give us this year?
I hear Tarrant (like many before him) cant stand Buckley or Malthouse.

He'll do. Can he play down back?
 

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