Rd 2 Vs Melbourne @ MCG

[Football God]

Okay guys and gals, excellent win 1st round against the dogs, now thats the past lets focus on our next game against the demons.

we have to take them very seriously, not really knowing much early in the season.
they will most likely have there strongest side in as they always love to try and beat us, so i think they are going to change their squad around taking out some younger players for more experience.

HOME game @ MCG saturday April 3rd 2:10 pm
*PLEASE NOTE- its a fox sports telecast, so atleast it will be live!

most likely squad changes
IN: Beams, Goldsack (maybe)
OUT: Sidebottom, Toovey (maybe)

depending on who is peforming better at training between Goldsack/Toovey.

B: Toovey/Goldsack Presti O'Brien
HB: Shaw Maxwell Johnson
C: Wellingham Swan Didak
HF: Fraser Cloke Thomas
FF: Lockyer Anthony Medhurst
Foll: Jolly Ball Pendlebury

Int: Davis L.Brown O'Bree Beams

Emg: Buckley Dawes Barham

But IMO, don't be suprised if Simon Buckley is named in the team against his old squad, he will help us on how each of the players play and MM will know what to do with him, so i think he might pinch a spot in this game.

Whats everyones thoughts on the game?

will anyone be going? should be a big crowd i reckon

 

[NeRFaHoLIc]

No chance will Toovey be dropped, unless he is injured.

I would go with no change, but wouldn't be surprised if Sidebottom is dropped for Beams.

 

[Pie eyed]

Murphy is a gun player and Possum was a little out of his comfort zone, though this is the type of player he has to learn to negate.

I reckon it was 50/50 with Toovey doing all the learning.


Awesome possum was passable. Awesomeness to follow.

 

[Football God]

yeahh hope you guys are right, atm possum has the edge on goldysack but whoever is in better form will come into the side and this week i dont think goldy can recover in time from the virus he's got but will be fighting for that spot.

 

[TradeDraft]

Should win this by at least 50pts

 

[Demonic_Inferno]

Lord Almighty this could be a biblical scale thrashing. The Melbourne Football club has the talent coming up, but the game plan is either woeful, or not able to be accomplished by the team. Our forward line is appalling at the moment, totally disfunctional.

The only question on the weekend will be can you win by 50 points or are u able to crack the 100 point margin???

 

[Zahki]

If we play like we did yesterday there should be no issue winning. Honestly, given how bad the Dees looked against the Hawks we should be aiming for a 50+ win minimum, should be a nice little percentage booster.

As for Ins/Outs, this is going to be controversial but I reckon JA is a chance to be dropped for Dawes. He had an absolute shocker yesterday and you could see Mick was none too happy. He might be given another chance to run himself into form, but we've been talking about our supposed depth all offseason and it's time to use it. If there is any time to give Dawes his chance it's now, if he doesn't get in this week then I reckon he'll be in the VFL all season.

 

[robertg22]

No way. Jack has had a limited pre season so it was always going to take him longer.
I think the 50 goals he kicked last year should afford him a couple of credits in the bank. His effort was there.
I'd either go in unchanged or as others have said, Sidebottom out for Beams (or McCarthy/Macaffer).
Demons won't be anywhere near as bad as the Hawks game, they had a bunch of first gamers who would have been physically intimidated by the big bodied Hawks but adjusted a little better towards the end of the game. We should win comfortably, but I do not want to sense any complacency within the group. Need to translate the momentum we had at the end of the game into a big win - we need to keep building because rounds 3 and 4 are going to be really, really tough.

 

[collingwood1992]

lol... they wanna hurt us... http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687203

GOD I hope Jack Watts plays!

 

[Zahki]

No way. Jack has had a limited pre season so it was always going to take him longer.
I think the 50 goals he kicked last year should afford him a couple of credits in the bank.

Well thats what people said about Medhurst, he went on and played about 8 poor games while people said "He was AA last year cut him some slack" before Mick had the balls to cut him far too late.

All I'm saying is that if we have the depth why not use it? No point having Dawes kicking 7 in the VFL week in week out while people say "Aw geez Jack kicked 50 last year give him another go". I'm a Jack fan myself, but I think knowing his spot is under pressure from Dawes and Rusling banging the door down is more likely to make him perform than knowing his spot will be gifted to him.

lol... they wanna hurt us... http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687203

Yeah is that dumb or what? They havn't considered the possibility of Leigh Brown taking that attitude right back and laying Trengove/Scully out?

 

[The Average Tourist]

If we play like we did yesterday there should be no issue winning. Honestly, given how bad the Dees looked against the Hawks we should be aiming for a 50+ win minimum, should be a nice little percentage booster.

As for Ins/Outs, this is going to be controversial but I reckon JA is a chance to be dropped for Dawes. He had an absolute shocker yesterday and you could see Mick was none too happy. He might be given another chance to run himself into form, but we've been talking about our supposed depth all offseason and it's time to use it. If there is any time to give Dawes his chance it's now, if he doesn't get in this week then I reckon he'll be in the VFL all season.

Interesting I am amazed how many are still calling for Tooves, Ben J, Cheesy and Leroy to be axed.

Our 4 Big forwards being Jack, Trav, Josh and Leroy (plus probably Jolly) not kicking goals was where there needs to be work. The guys who have a claim to come in are Goldy, Beams, N Brown and Dawes.

Unless there are injuries the only possible change could be Jack (although I expect he will not be dropped) out for any of these 4 as all 4 bring in different measures for the team.

Goldy or N Brown goes down back and Harry, Heater and even the Captain could move into the midfield

Beams just adds another strong goal kicking midfielder.

Either would mean a forward line of Trav, Leroy and the resting Ruckman

And if Dawes plays as the strong marking forward against a physically weak defence although they do have Rivers and Frawley playing and both are in the Melbourne top 10 and have played more than two games.

I am not a Chessy fan and never have been but gee he was very good in tight yesterday but I was clearly watching a different game to a couple of posters.

Also I was not aware how good Morris from Footscray is / was Eade reckons he can cover Davis Medhurts and Cloke if that is the case Hargrave Everit and Harbrow would have all been spare in defense we would not have kicked those goals. I will pay more attention to Morris from now on and see how he covers three players at once he must be Harry, Presti and Maxy all rolled in to one player Now that is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mattys123]

Lord Almighty this could be a biblical scale thrashing. The Melbourne Football club has the talent coming up, but the game plan is either woeful, or not able to be accomplished by the team. Our forward line is appalling at the moment, totally disfunctional.

The only question on the weekend will be can you win by 50 points or are u able to crack the 100 point margin???

Mate, from what I've seen over the past year and a bit, Dean Bailey could possibly be about to rival Danny Frawley, Tony Shaw, Kevin Bartlett and a few others as the worst coach of the last 20 years or so.

His gameplan last year, and also against the Hawks last week was almost non existent.

I almost feel sorry for the Dees, although I won't be feeling anything for you mob next week, this is business, and we need to take care of it in a professional manner.

I hope Melbourne put up more of a fight, we actually play better when challenged, so I hope you play better then last week.

Early tip, 48 point win to the Pies.

 

[robertg22]

Well thats what people said about Medhurst, he went on and played about 8 poor games while people said "He was AA last year cut him some slack" before Mick had the balls to cut him far too late.

All I'm saying is that if we have the depth why not use it? No point having Dawes kicking 7 in the VFL week in week out while people say "Aw geez Jack kicked 50 last year give him another go". I'm a Jack fan myself, but I think knowing his spot is under pressure from Dawes and Rusling banging the door down is more likely to make him perform than knowing his spot will be gifted to him.

I would suggest that kicking 50 goals in the AFL in a year as opposed to kicking 7 in a VFL practise game (no, he does not kick that many goals week in week out, in fact kicked less last year than CHRIS BRYAN) holds a tad more weight.
FWIW, Jack played better than Travis yesterday, and Dawes is more suited to a Travis type role. Why wouldn't we consdier dropping Travis? How about a bit of continuity in the team and not just panicking at the first sign of a mediocre performance.

 

[TradeDraft]

If we play like we did yesterday there should be no issue winning. Honestly, given how bad the Dees looked against the Hawks we should be aiming for a 50+ win minimum, should be a nice little percentage booster.

As for Ins/Outs, this is going to be controversial but I reckon JA is a chance to be dropped for Dawes. He had an absolute shocker yesterday and you could see Mick was none too happy. He might be given another chance to run himself into form, but we've been talking about our supposed depth all offseason and it's time to use it. If there is any time to give Dawes his chance it's now, if he doesn't get in this week then I reckon he'll be in the VFL all season.

All out Talls had Shockers. I reckon they could Drop Fraser and Bring Dawes in and Give him a Go as he would deserve it in his last game he kicked 7 Goals

 

[Zahki]

I would suggest that kicking 50 goals in the AFL in a year as opposed to kicking 7 in a VFL practise game (no, he does not kick that many goals week in week out, in fact kicked less last year than CHRIS BRYAN) holds a tad more weight.
FWIW, Jack played better than Travis yesterday, and Dawes is more suited to a Travis type role. Why wouldn't we consdier dropping Travis? How about a bit of continuity in the team and not just panicking at the first sign of a mediocre performance.

And being an AA with 50 goals the year before holds even more weight, yet at some point you need to say that what the player did last year is irrelevant. I have to ask what Dawes needs to do to break into the side, because apparently 7 goals in the VFL is superceded by how JA played last year, how does he get a spot? How many marks does JA need to drop, how many games before Dawes is a possibility.

As I said I'm a JA fan, I reckon he'll have a good year but it's a tad unfair to Dawes and Rusling if they're doing so well in the VFL and can't break into the side even when JA underperforms. We have great depth, why not use it instead of hanging our hats on yesteryears performances and saying "He'll come good"?

 

[mattys123]

A few things;

Unless Fraser is injured, HE WILL PLAY EVERY WEEK. He gives us so much flexibiilty, and his ruck combination with Jolly, especially around the ground, will improve us so much it's not funny.

If you were ranking our players from yesterdays game, Fraser would be in the top 15, meaning there's no chance he is being dropped this week.

I believe Cloke shouldn't have played, especially after Morris pulled out, you could see the bandages on Cloke's legs restricting him from running on long leads like he does at this best.

If Dawes is to come in, it will be for Cloke, not Fraser, that is for sure, but I can't see Dawes getting a game ahead of MaCaffer, McCarthy, Reid, N.Brown or Beams next week, as Melbourne aren't a tall team anyway, so a player like MacAffer or J-MAC may come in if Cloke is rested.

I expect if Dawes can show some consistent form at VFL level, he will be in the senior side pretty soon, but not just yet, one VFL practice match won't be enough for him to get into this side yet.

 

[wicksy]

How long before we can all admit that Cloke is severely overrated and Jack has a terrible attitude.

The forward line worries me..... How is it that Medhurst becomes our main focal point when he's such a midget compared to the other two!?

 

[TradeDraft]

How long before we can all admit that Cloke is severely overrated and Jack has a terrible attitude.

The forward line worries me..... How is it that Medhurst becomes our main focal point when he's such a midget compared to the other two!?

JA Attitude was Quite Good but I think the 2007 season for Cloke so far looks like a Flook. He is just like Jason and Cameron have 1 Good Season then do Sweet F**k All. After That

 

[Zahki]

What was wrong with JAs attitude?

 

[didaka]

I think we'll win by 100.....billion....points

 

[mattys123]

Oh, one more thing.

THIS GAME IS NOT A SELLOUT.

Sorry, but I can see someone asking this very soon.

Seriously though, to have a go at Travis Cloke after 1 game (which we won) is a little silly.

He is obviously struggling with a knew problem that occurred pre season in Arizona, and it will probably restrict him all year (cue week to week calls for his dumping).

He plays a role, and that is the CHF, we simply do not have anyone else on our list who can play that role, barring probably Leigh Brown, and boy how much don't I want to see that on a consistent basis.

Dawes is a tall half forward flanker at this stage of his career, Rusling if fit is a goal square leading full forward, Jack isn't strong enough to play CHF, and Wood, Fraser or Jolly are needed elsewhere.

Leave Trav alone for a while, he is playing his role, MM would be satisfied with what he gave us yesterday.

 

[wicksy]

Oh, one more thing.

THIS GAME IS NOT A SELLOUT.

Sorry, but I can see someone asking this very soon.

Seriously though, to have a go at Travis Cloke after 1 game (which we won) is a little silly.

He is obviously struggling with a knew problem that occurred pre season in Arizona, and it will probably restrict him all year (cue week to week calls for his dumping).

He plays a role, and that is the CHF, we simply do not have anyone else on our list who can play that role, barring probably Leigh Brown, and boy how much don't I want to see that on a consistent basis.

Dawes is a tall half forward flanker at this stage of his career, Rusling if fit is a goal square leading full forward, Jack isn't strong enough to play CHF, and Wood, Fraser or Jolly are needed elsewhere.

Leave Trav alone for a while, he is playing his role, MM would be satisfied with what he gave us yesterday.

1 game?
On my accounts, he's played 101 games..... That's 101 games where he's shown 'something' but that's it! Is it ever going to amount to anything Travis?

Dave, were you at the same game I was at yesterday? Jack was the only one not having a crack! Usually I don't like to get into our players but as far as I'm concerned, he's not playing for the team at the moment and until he starts to, will be judged accordingly. If you disagree with me, go and ask MM what he thinks of him....

 

[mwalker]

And being an AA with 50 goals the year before holds even more weight, yet at some point you need to say that what the player did last year is irrelevant. I have to ask what Dawes needs to do to break into the side, because apparently 7 goals in the VFL is superceded by how JA played last year, how does he get a spot? How many marks does JA need to drop, how many games before Dawes is a possibility.

As I said I'm a JA fan, I reckon he'll have a good year but it's a tad unfair to Dawes and Rusling if they're doing so well in the VFL and can't break into the side even when JA underperforms. We have great depth, why not use it instead of hanging our hats on yesteryears performances and saying "He'll come good"?

Given it is round 1 I doubt we are at that point yet. But with that theory you have, Leon would probably need the axe too given his final few games last year and he didn't set the world on fire yesterday. Replace him with Corrie I suppose, I hear his last VFL game was pretty good too.

 

[TheClokes]

B: Toovey - Prestigiacomo - Maxwell
HB: Shaw - O'Brien - Wellingham
C: Didak - Swan - Johnson
HF: Davis - Cloke - Thomas
F: Lockyer - Anthony - Medhurst
FL: Jolly - Pendlebury - Ball
INT: Sidebottom - O'Bree - L. Brown - Fraser​

 

[Kipz]

Not being cocky or getting ahead of myself at all, but realistically if we are serious this year we should completely smash Melbourne this weekend.

If we come out like we did against the Dogs I think it could be a 100+ point belting.