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Opinion Re-drafting Ahmed Saad
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He's only played 29 games… the consistency takes awhile.
2nd year, defenders worked him out. Can he take his game up a notch?
As a defensive Fwd, I'd have him ahead of Saunders any day... and I like Saunders.
I don't think our supply was great last year either. Lack of defensive play meant that the ball wasn't in the forward line much.
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I'd love to have him back 
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1.6 goals per game says it all.
Should be agreement between all clubs that Saints can pick him up with our last pick
Should be agreement between all clubs that Saints can pick him up with our last pick
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"Athlete may train ... last two months of Ineligibility"
http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/W...inal Draft/WADC-2015-draft-version-4.0-EN.pdf
http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/W...inal Draft/WADC-2015-draft-version-4.0-EN.pdf
Excellent, so if all remains the same he'll be able to do a big chunk of the preseason, so as others have said, it'll be just like someone who's had a knee reco. Won't be all that much different to Dan Markworth as far as the timing of it all goes, except that unlike Dan he's not recovering from a reco.
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I always thought he was given games along side Milne to learn how to take that spot. Absolutely for me. Rookie list him.
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Seems to love the saints still going by his tweets, i think he'll be back with us. He'll have learned a heap from this and i think he'll come back even better.
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"Following the decision by the AFL Anti-Doping Appeals Board to dismiss the ASADA appeal"
It's up to the AFL to determine the punishment and to determine any apeal by ASADA? Essendon and their vast tentacles must be rubbing their filthy sucker laden hands with glee...
It's up to the AFL to determine the punishment and to determine any apeal by ASADA? Essendon and their vast tentacles must be rubbing their filthy sucker laden hands with glee...
Absolutely.
The guideline (a lot of WADA stuff aren't technically rules - pedantic, but this has proven important when things have gone to court) is that the banned athlete "should not participate in any organised team activities" during their ban. It's difficult at times to patrol, as long as people aren't stupid/blatant about it. And it says should, not cannot - again pedantic but important as it means there's opportunities to actually do so.
Pro cyclists for example in their last few months of their ban, might just happen to bump into 6 of their teammates whilst out on a training run and incidentally participate in a 7-man time-trial session. And I know of a banned sprinter who still worked with his association-registered coach, by joining an amateur sports team and getting the coach on their books; he never played, just a workaround to not have to change his routine.
The club can keep a player under contract the entire time during a ban, just not pay them a salary or allow them to take part in team activities. In the vast majority of cases, often for the sake of perception, the club tends to terminate the contract. But there's multiple examples of the athlete being signed up again immediately after, or even the contract being announced in advance of the ban ending.
On the assumption AFL apply WADA's guidelines (and technically as a non-Olympic sport they don't have to, they just need to come close to appeasing ASADA) then Saad could be drafted, allocated against the rookie list, signed to a pre-contract that takes effect in the February, and he would need to train on his own during the offseason. He couldn't go to Colorado with the team. But if he happened to bump into Schneider, Geary and the sprint coach down the park, that would just be a fortunate co-incidence. I would suspect back when he was initially expecting the ban but hoping for it to be a short one, he'll have still trained with many of the players, just not been out at Linen House when there were cameras about.
I expect if they do draft him, beforehand the Saints will ask AFL and ASADA where they feel the grey line is for Saad.
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That's 30 odd per year. well worth it.
People forget how hard this is to do until we lose Milne and Saad…
Templeton had 4 in six games and people were still blowing their foofers.
Saad had a very ordinary 2013, but his combination of pace, tackling & goal kicking accuracy should see him get another chance.
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That's a pretty solid average considering he had a down year last year. Amazing what straight kicking can do! Bring him back.
Definitely pick him up as a rookie. He's shown he can kicks goals, has an efficient set shot and provides quite a lot of tackling pressure around the forward line. I always liked his intensity in the forward line and I want to see him bring that to the team again but with the addition of a big bloody chip on his shoulder.
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Player =/= club.
Saad got pinged via a positive reading to a banned substance cleared for use on human subjects readily obtainable in a drink outside of specific sports / "body" codes. Ergo a ban.
Essendon, as a club are accused of widespread misconduct to their players under AFL code, potential illegal appropriation of enzymes, proteins and etc not cleared by any governmental body for use on human subjects, potential illegalities to the well being / health of individuals under their charge, in their place of employment, hence the worksafe thing.
Those "hoping" for things to happen to Essendon and its players, are really hoping not only for sport side sanctions, but also probable jail time for the proponents of the scheme, and possible wide ranging health complications from the persistent use of said "solutions" during the scheme. As soon as this happened there were no winners, there was no good outcome, and irregardless of hos much bullshit both sides of the argument spit out, the only resonating argument is that the AFL and Essendon by and large failed their duty of care to a selection of young people and possibly ruined their long term futures in the process.
Anywho...
For a club that is effectively crying out for another target or two up forward to alleviate the route of Roo, it is idiocy if they confirm they will redraft Saad, just as it is idiocy to dismiss him because he played once before and omg 18 months invalid. Do I think he'll make his way back? No. Do I think he will try? Yes, and it's up to the club to then gauge his best against someone else to make the call on what it then wants going forward, and if that is Saad then he will have earned it.
If the club redrafts him because they think he is a good player... the end of story. I don't believe they will do it out of some sense of loyalty, for the sake of it.
If Saad had done a knee, then come back and reinjured himself, we'd be saying what an unlucky player and hope that he can get fit again etc etc.
Take the reason why out of the argument... if he is good enough he deserves another go.
If Saad had done a knee, then come back and reinjured himself, we'd be saying what an unlucky player and hope that he can get fit again etc etc.
Take the reason why out of the argument... if he is good enough he deserves another go.
Someone like????
Especially with say our last pick in the rookie draft.
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