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Recruiting Targets Summary

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PAFC United said:
mitchell is a rookie so cant be traded
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Sure can but he has to go on West Coast's senior list. That's the only way rookies may be traded.
 

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Quick summary of the KPP/Rucks discussed so far: (sorry about the size of post and formatting)
  1. Dan Gorringe, 200cm, 88kg, Age 22, pick 10 GCS
    Athletic, ruck and forward. Injury prone. 50/50 to come home to SA
  2. Rhys Stanley, 200cm, 95kg, Age 23, Pick 47 St Kilda
    Athletic. Unproven, more forward than ruck. Unlikely to come to port as getting chances at St Kilda
  3. Jon Griffin, 201cm, 99kg, Age 28, Fremantle
    Experienced. Ready to go. Age. Injury prone. Apparently more likely to go to Crows, if at all
  4. Jon Giles, 201cm, 99kg, Age 26 GWS
    Experienced and ready to go. Has hit a ceiling. More ruck than forward. Why would he come back when he is likely to have more chance of playing elsewhere?
  5. Padriag Lucey, 201cm, ?weight, Age 21, Ireland
    Athletic. Mates with Flynny Inexperienced. Project ruck. Why not? But Port may not want another project
  6. Jeremy Cameron, 196cm, 89kg, Age 21. GWS. Amazing player. Not a beast forward… No chance of leaving
  7. Sam Day, 196cm, 103kg, Age 21, Pick 3 GCS. Solid KPD. Not a ruck and struggled up front. Why would he leave GCS? Who would he knock out of our side?
  8. Sam Baulderstone, 200cm, 113kg, Age 23, Norwood, Strong ruck. Is he a good enough forward, is he skilled enough and is his fitness good enough?
  9. Ben Haren, 198cm, 92kg, Age 21, Sydney then Port Magpies
    Played SANFL + AFL. Versatile ?Athletic and skilful enough for AFL. Why not? Maybe as a rookie
  10. Ben Griffiths, 200cm, 102kg, Age 22, Richmond
    Experienced and ready to go. ?Athletic and skilful enough for AFL. Trade for a 3rd rounder. Why would he leave?
  11. Tyrone Vickery, 200cm, 98kg, Age 23, Richmond
    Experienced and ready to go. ?Overpay for what you get. Trade for 2nd rounder.. unlikely to leave
  12. Lewis Johnston, 193cm, 91kg, Age 23, Sydney then Crows. Great kick. No ability to tackle, pressure or get his own ball. Failed at 2 clubs. DFA. Unlikely and not a fan
  13. Luke Lowden, 204cm, 102kg, Age 23, Pick 63 Hawks
    Developed and ready to go. Little experience. ?forward abilities. Possible but why would he leave the Hawks where he is a 3rd option ruck to come to Port to be a 3rd option ruck
  14. Adam Tomlinson, 193cm, 87kg, Age 20 GWS
    Athletic, Versatile, skilled. ?Tall enough to be different from what we have. Still developing. Why would he choose Port over Victoria?. ?Overpay for what you get. Unlikely
  15. Kristian Jaksch, 194cm, 85kg, Age 19, Pick 12 GWS, Athletic, Versatile, skilled. ?Tall enough to be different from what we have. Still developing. Why would he choose Port over Victoria?. ?Overpay for what you get. Unlikely
  16. Nick Jackson, 195cm, 87kg, Brisbane Lions academy. Versatile. Good rebounder. Still developing. Not sure the lions won't pick him up but possible
  17. Sam Durdin, 197cm, 87kg, Age 18, West Adelaide
    Athletic and versatile. Like a 2nd Trengrove. Played SANFL. Didn’t have a great championship and may not be a great forward. Not unless we can get a pick in the top 5
  18. Hugh Goddard, 195cm, 92kg, Age 18, Geelong Falcons
    Athletic and versatile. Didn’t have a great championship and probably more of a CHB than forward. Not unless we can get a pick in the top 10
  19. Sean Mclaren, 197cm, 91kg, Age 18, Sandringham Dragons
    Athletic and versatile. Ruck and KPD. Not highly rated. ?ability to make it. Why not? Likely 2nd/3rd rpound draft pick
  20. Tyler Keitel, 194cm, 90kg, Age 18, WA
    Versatile and has played WAFL. Poor year and has dropped off. ?Tall enough. Why not? Likely 2nd round draft pick
  21. Jed Redden, 198cm, 87kg, Age 19, Glenelg
    Played SANFL. Versatile, mostly KPD/Ruck. Missed out last year in a poor year for talls. Why not? Maybe as a rookie
  22. Jesse Watchmen, 196cm, 91kg, Age 18. West Adelaide
    Played SANFL. AIS grad. Inconsistent year and commentators seemed to have gone off him. Why not?
  23. Peter Spurling, 199cm, 85kg, Age 18, Glenelg
    Good ruck, Not highly rated and not sure of his forward credentials. Why not? Maybe as a rookie
  24. Cameron Conlon, 198cm, 87kg, Age 19, Northern Knights Vic, Forward/Ruck with reasonable athleticism. Horrible knee injury and missed out last year in a poor year for talls. ?Ability to make it. Maybe as a rookie.
 
FallingLiefs said:
Griffin + Gorringe/draftee would cost minimal, fills depth roles and can look to use higher picks on a forward via trade or draft. still confident we could land Durdin so i don't want us to lose that first rounder.

If we get Durdin it would be the greatest heist in afl draft history. He will go top 5
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Nemisis said:
If we get Durdin it would be the greatest heist in afl draft history. He will go top 5
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I am not sold he will go top 5. coming back from a thumb injury he's now had a championships where he averaged 10 disposals, 3 marks and kicked 1 goal that whole time. he may have been rushed back but still he has yet to register in the bests for reserves and has been shown up by Watchman.

also should add in the fact much of the clubs below us require midfielders. Melbourne, GWS and West Coast. if St Kilda don't finish last and suddenly theres no McCartin do they go for a Petracca instead of Wright? it's impossible to guess but i don't think it is a foregone conclusion.
 
I remember everyone was saying Brodie Grundy was a top 3 lock and he ended up sliding to Collingwood at pick 18.
It was pipedream when I hoped Port would pick him with our first pick (7).
Obviously I'm happy with Ollie Wines, But the point I'm making is you never know what can happen.
 
RossFC said:
I remember everyone was saying Brodie Grundy was a top 3 lock and he ended up sliding to Collingwood at pick 18.
It was pipedream when I hoped Port would pick him with our first pick (7).
Obviously I'm happy with Ollie Wines, But the point I'm making is you never know what can happen.
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Especially with ruckman - Nathan Vardy was a top 10 pick too apparently and went in the 40's IIRC.
 
http://www.fox8.tv/shows/the-recruit/recruits/padraig-lucey The thing about Padraig is I don't think he's any further away from AFL level than anyone else we are likely to pick up in the draft. I'd be interested if we can't get Gorringe then maybe bring Baulderstone in as insurance and maybe Burgo can bring him up to another level with Padraig as a long term option if the club rate him at all.
 
RossFC said:
I remember everyone was saying Brodie Grundy was a top 3 lock and he ended up sliding to Collingwood at pick 18.
It was pipedream when I hoped Port would pick him with our first pick (7).
Obviously I'm happy with Ollie Wines, But the point I'm making is you never know what can happen.
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Let hope you are on the money.
 
Nah now I want Padraig
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Pádraig Lucey does a Leon Knight:
 

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Im not really getting the whole, why would X come to port to be our 3rd string ruck.
Redden would slip back to third string if we got across an, even slightly, experienced big man.
Redden is a hugly unknown quantity who may never play more then 20 games. Injuries have set him back, isnt proven etc etc. he might just be potential and never get to the heights we are hoping. Right now he has proved nothing.
Lowden, Giles, Griffths would be ahead of him right now in the 22!
 
Adz2332 said:
Im not really getting the whole, why would X come to port to be our 3rd string ruck.
Redden would slip back to third string if we got across an, even slightly, experienced big man.
Redden is a hugly unknown quantity who may never play more then 20 games. Injuries have set him back, isnt proven etc etc. he might just be potential and never get to the heights we are hoping. Right now he has proved nothing.
Lowden, Giles, Griffths would be ahead of him right now in the 22!
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Fair call. It was based on Redden finally getting a good bill of health but you make very valid points.
 

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The Crows need running defenders a lot more than they need a back up for Talia. Their problem is only Smith can run the ball out of defense, whereas the rest of them are one paced average players.

Sanderson will be looking for a player who can have immediate impact since this is the first year the Crows have draft picks without sanctions. I wouldn't be surprised if they pass on Durdin at all.
 
NATIONAL NAB AFL DRAFT COMBINE – TALL FORWARDS
Western Australia


Jack Cripps East Fremantle/Northampton
20.1.1996 Height: 196cm Weight: 86kg
Versatile tall forward who is a neat and reliable penetrating set shot for goal. Shows the consistent ability to mark strongly on the lead, taking the ball at its highest point, and is at his best when moving towards the kicker. Averaged 9.5 disposals, 3.3 marks and one goal during his four games for Western Australia in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.

Tyler Keitel East Perth/Noranda
7.2.1996 Height: 194cm Weight: 86kg
Tall forward who provided a strong marking target up forward and has good speed to get space off his opponent. Averaged 6.2 marks and 15.8 disposals as Western Australia's most dangerous forward during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Can also transition into defence when called upon with great effect making him an extremely versatile footballer.

Mitchell McGovern Claremont
11.10.1994 Height: 191cm Weight: 84kg
Strong marking tall forward who positions his body very well in the contest. Possesses excellent foot skills on either side of the body. His vertical leap is a real asset, particularly on the lead, making it difficult for opposition defenders to spoil. Has averaged 10.7 disposals and 4.3 marks in his seven games of league football for Claremont this season.

NSW/ACT
Abaina Davis UNSW-Easts
27.1.1996 Height: 193cm Weight: 86kg
Mobile and powerful tall forward with strong hands overhead. Averaged 13.3 disposals and five marks in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Showed good mobility and is very creative inside 50. Hard to stop once he gets front position and is a reliable set shot for goal. Averaged 13.3 disposals and five marks during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Is a Sydney Swans Academy player.

Jeremy Finlayson Hills Eagles
9.2.1996 Height: 195cm Weight: 84kg
Athletic and beautifully balanced tall forward who possesses a penetrating left foot. Can play as a deep leading forward who is difficult to stop and also shows excellent mobility playing further up the ground. Marks strongly on the lead. Averaged 12 disposals and 3.7 marks during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Is a GWS Giants Academy player.

Nicholas Coughlan Murray Bushrangers/Albury
12.9.1996 Height: 193cm Weight: 84kg
Tall Forward with good athletic ability and strong overhead. Agile and presents well on the lead. A reliable set shot for goal as well as an excellent field kick on his preferred right foot. Averaged 10 disposals (four contested possessions) and a goal in three matches during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. A member of NAB AFL National Academy in 2014.

Dougal Howard Murray Bushrangers/Albury
25.3.1996 Height: 195cm Weight: 88kg
Tall developing forward that provides an excellent target inside 50. His overhead marking is a strength and once he takes front position it's difficult for defenders to spoil. Possesses an excellent vertical leap while also showing elite leg speed for a player of his size (2.92secs 20m Sprint). Played senior footy with the Wagga Tigers in 2013. Averaged four marks and one goal per game during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. GWS Giants Academy player.

South Australia
Brett Eddy South Adelaide
26.8.1989 Height: 194cm Weight: 89kg
Strong and powerful tall forward with an excellent set of hands. Shows the ability to not only mark on the lead but also to use his body to great effect in a one on one contest. His set shot goal kicking is a real feature of his game, rarely missing an opportunity to convert. Has kicked 54 goals in his 15 matches for South Adelaide at senior level this season.

Queensland

Matthew Hammelmann Morningside
8.3.1996 Height: 197cm Weight: 88kg
Tall forward with strong hands in front, on the lead and overhead. Has good pace off the mark to get separation on his opponent. Can also play in defence. Showed promise in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 10.3 disposals, 7.3 marks and 2.3 goals in his three matches. A member of the NAB AFL Academy as well as the Brisbane Lions Academy.

Matthew Uebergang Ipswich
6.1.1995 Height: 193cm Weight: 87kg
Tall forward with good speed off the mark and strong hands on the lead. A very good reader of the play who shows good composure with the ball in hand. Possesses excellent athletic traits and competitive instincts. Has also played in defence to good effect. Averaged 11.7 disposals and 5.5 marks during this year's NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. A Brisbane Lions Academy player.

Victoria

Tom Lamb Dandenong Stingrays/Edithvale-Aspendale
19.10.1996 Height: 193cm Weight 84kg
Tall forward/midfielder with elite endurance, rare goal sense and footy nous. His versatility makes him a very difficult match-up for opposition teams. Strong overhead, he averaged 14.8 disposals with 50 percent contested in five matches during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Member of the NAB AFL Academy. His father Wayne played with Melbourne and Fitzroy.

Patrick McCartin Geelong Falcons/St Joseph's FC
19.10.1996 Height: 193cm Weight: 84kg
Tall forward who times his leads well, is a one-grab player and strong overhead mark. Imposes himself on games and is dangerous around goals with accurate snaps or with his sound technique for set shots. Averaged four marks and 2.3 goals in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. A NAB AFL Academy member.

Darcy Moore Oakleigh Chargers/ Kew Comets JFC
25.1.1996 Height: 199cm Weight: 93kg
Tall forward or defender with excellent closing speed and natural leap. Strong overhead mark and smart around goals, kicking four goals against Western Australia at Simonds Stadium in round five. Averaged 9.2 disposals and three marks in roles both forward and back during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Son of dual Brownlow medallist Peter Moore.

Brenton Payne Western Jets/Bacchus Marsh
3.9.1996 Height: 193cm Weight: 76cm
Leading goal-kicker at the Jets. Attends St Patrick's in Ballarat and is also a very talented cricketer. Applies very good defensive pressure for a key forward. Shows good top end speed allowing him to create separation from his opponent. Averaged 9.2 disposals and 2.4 marks for Vic Metro during this year’s NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Endurance is a real strength for a player of his size. The grandson of Essendon forward Charlie Payne (194 games).


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-07/tall-timber-limbers-up
 
So what we're saying is, there's no excuse for us NOT to pick a key position player with our first pick...
 

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