Oppo Camp Regular Non Eagles Discussion

[Truckosaurus]

I feel like he was sorta lucky that he never really copped sh*t like other failed number forwards did. Boyd copped it bad and even Patton but no sympathies to Patton

Add McCartin in too. It was a bad time for drafting highly-rated young KPFs.

 

[kranky al]

Add McCartin in too. It was a bad time for drafting highly-rated young KPFs.

Unless you were a member of west coasts highly specialised kp recruitment team.

 

[Wild Kelly]

Are you like a 14 yo young liberal whos grandma was cold and forbidding and you want to bang her?

Thats the only situation i can imagine where she would seem attractive.

She would probably win a Ms Greenough competition though.

 

[FKASC]

Add McCartin in too. It was a bad time for drafting highly-rated young KPFs.

Imagine if St K took Petracca and Melb ended up with Mccartin. It would have capped off a few years of absolute fails from the Melb recruitment team

 

[kane249]

3 of the richest clubs on the planet, all play in the same league, all have a solid red home strip with only a bit of difference on sleeves/collars and other bits. There are also numerous other clubs that have a red strip in English football. All 3 of their home strips are iconic and what they are known for despite them having away and clash strips in different colours.

None of them throw up a fuss that they are the only ones who get to wear red. Even when they have to play other clubs who aren't as big as them in an away game, they have no issues wearing a clash strip.

Collingwood are just being selfish campaigners and insecure about the whole black and white stripes thing. The football traditionalists who don't believe in alternate colours for teams are holding the game back.

You don't lose your identity by having an alternative colour / strip or by allowing another team to wear similar.

 

[Bender_]

Shorthand: VFL gonna VFL.

 

[MrKK]

Whilst I personally couldn't give a sh*t whether Port wear prison bars or not, they did enter a different league under the moniker the 'Power'.

Trying to have a fight with an existing club in the league you joined to use a Guernsey very similar to theirs is pretty entitled.

It's two games a year, neither shown on national FTA, and not against the existing team with similar colours.

 

[MrKK]

No sympathy for Port from me. If the guernsey really was traditional (i.e. Port entered the comp affiliated with the Port Magpies) I think they would be entitled to some dispensation to use it on occasion, but they didn't.

At any rate, whether or not it 'hurts' Collingwood, I don't think it sets a good precendent to let a club change their guernsey to be markedly similar to that of another club. I expect I am probably in the minority here but to me Collingwood are well within their rights to tell Port to get f’ed.

It was the SANFL that forced the Power-Magpies split out of pure spite and pettiness for Port originally trying to join the VFL behind their back a decade earlier. People really need to learn some history about the SA clubs entry into the AFL before commenting on this stuff.

 

[The Dodger]

3 of the richest clubs on the planet, all play in the same league, all have a solid red home strip with only a bit of difference on sleeves/collars and other bits. There are also numerous other clubs that have a red strip in English football. All 3 of their home strips are iconic and what they are known for despite them having away and clash strips in different colours.

None of them throw up a fuss that they are the only ones who get to wear red. Even when they have to play other clubs who aren't as big as them in an away game, they have no issues wearing a clash strip.

Collingwood are just being selfish campaigners and insecure about the whole black and white stripes thing. The football traditionalists who don't believe in alternate colours for teams are holding the game back.

You don't lose your identity by having an alternative colour / strip or by allowing another team to wear similar.

Yeah I think saying some colours arranged a certain way are IP is a tad out there unless its an actual logo. Like the olympic rings etc

 

[Brave Sir Robin]

It was the SANFL that forced the Power-Magpies split out of pure spite and pettiness for Port originally trying to join the VFL behind their back a decade earlier. People really need to learn some history about the SA clubs entry into the AFL before commenting on this stuff.

I take your point, even though I don't care about the history of the SA clubs into the AFL and certainly won't be reading up on it. My opinion is that Collingwood already have a guernsey strikingly similar to the one that Port want to wear, whether it has historical significance to them in another league or not. If the decision is left up to Collingwood I completely understand why they would be reluctant to give Port any leeway on the matter. No club would ever give carte blanch to another club to move in on something they feel is theirs. If the AFL wants to weigh in and tell Collingwood they have no right to tell another club what they can't wear then fine, but otherwise, it sucks for Port but that's what it is.

 

[Bender_]

I take your point, even though I don't care about the history of the SA clubs into the AFL and certainly won't be reading up on it. My opinion is that Collingwood already have a guernsey strikingly similar to the one that Port want to wear, whether it has historical significance to them in another league or not. If the decision is left up to Collingwood I completely understand why they would be reluctant to give Port any leeway on the matter. No club would ever give carte blanch to another club to move in on something they feel is theirs. If the AFL wants to weigh in and tell Collingwood they have no right to tell another club what they can't wear then fine, but otherwise, it sucks for Port but that's what it is.

Is it really "strikingly similar" though?

 

[MrKK]

I take your point, even though I don't care about the history of the SA clubs into the AFL and certainly won't be reading up on it. My opinion is that Collingwood already have a guernsey strikingly similar to the one that Port want to wear, whether it has historical significance to them in another league or not. If the decision is left up to Collingwood I completely understand why they would be reluctant to give Port any leeway on the matter. No club would ever give carte blanch to another club to move in on something they feel is theirs. If the AFL wants to weigh in and tell Collingwood they have no right to tell another club what they can't wear then fine, but otherwise, it sucks for Port but that's what it is.

It sounds like it's more the AFL than Collingwood pushing back on this. Part of Port's argument is they agreed years ago that they could wear it in heritage rounds, which the AFL soon after stopped doing. So there is acceptance of it as Port's heritage jumper for occasional use.

 

[squashface]

"Hey that guernsey looks like Collingwood! But as I look to the scoreboard it is obviously Port Adelaide, I guess they have similar guernseys." And life goes on.

 

[Mr Eagle]

3 of the richest clubs on the planet, all play in the same league, all have a solid red home strip with only a bit of difference on sleeves/collars and other bits. There are also numerous other clubs that have a red strip in English football

In the big multi-tiered world of English football it would never be feasible for every team to be different. In the case of the smaller AFL, I confess to quite liking the idea that each team can have its own colour scheme and primary visual identity.

And perhaps I am cynical, but "just for Showdowns" has always struck me as a means to an end.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Is it really "strikingly similar" though?

I wouldn't say so. Particularly compared to Collingwood's original black on white jumper.

Ironically it was after Port entered the league that Collingwood switched to white on black, which was Port's thing.

 

[Ochre]

Yeah, I dont think this is anywhere near as similar as Essendon v Richmond, North v Collingwood, Collingwood v Geelong, Carlton v that new GWS clash etc

 

[Coasters7]

Maybe it's an unpopular opinion but I think teams should be able to wear whatever jumper they want, and at home they can choose what strip to wear, and the visiting team must were a jumper that does not clash.

Collingwood don't have a right to black and white stripes just as much as we don't have a right to blue and gold. As long as the 'competing' team does not profess to be the Magpies or the Eagles then all power to them. Would a person be less likely to buy an Eagles jumper if another team in the AFL also had blue and gold colours? Plenty of teams in soccer have extremely similar jerseys but nowhere near as much bleating as what we're seeing now.

The only issue in this case is that it’s both of Collingwoods H+A guernseys otherwise I’d agree that it’s home team picks what they like and the away team has to choose something to suit. Also shouldnt really be an issue outside of the games they play against each other, the designs are similar but hardly identical. Surely Port can just wear it every other game and either Collingwood get an adequate clash guernsey or Port play in their teal for that one game.

 

[swingdog]

"Hey that guernsey looks like Collingwood! But as I look to the scoreboard it is obviously Port Adelaide, I guess they have similar guernseys." And life goes on.

"Hey I ruined on the TV to watch Collingwood, but it says Port Adelaide. I'm confused by these striking similar guernseys."

Maybe that's the reason - Collingwood supporters are too dumb to tell them apart.

 

[DanWCE]

 

[FKASC]

The BBIBWBLF

 

[Bender_]

I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[ioppolo]

I remember the last H&A game of 2013, Port wore their prison bars against Carlton. Holy ****, what a mess that was

 

[kane249]

Yeah, I dont think this is anywhere near as similar as Essendon v Richmond, North v Collingwood, Collingwood v Geelong, Carlton v that new GWS clash etc

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[Bender_]

I'm assuming a third individual named Charlie helped with the bonding?

 

[ziad]

It was the SANFL that forced the Power-Magpies split out of pure spite and pettiness for Port originally trying to join the VFL behind their back a decade earlier. People really need to learn some history about the SA clubs entry into the AFL before commenting on this stuff.

I like spite and pettiness. Who was it that said a Football League is a loose collection of enemies