Analysis Rolling All-Australian team for 2021

[Ambrosia]

The thing is it is so hard to be consistent as s roving FP

But out of 17 game AMT has kicked multiple goals 12 times. Now he may not have influenced games as much as mids in a lot of those but that's a damn ******* fine performance of consistency by him

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Yeah maybe I’m wrong. He’s also one of the the best field kicks in the comp as well

 

[00Stinger]

Yeah maybe I’m wrong. He’s also one of the the best field kicks in the comp as well

Yeah look I'm not sure if he makes the 22 but he is bloody borderline imo

That small FP position is the hardest in AFL imo

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[andrewb]

Touk Miller

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Touk Miller

Age

29

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.7

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

12.3

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.8

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.0

5star

played an absolute blinder

 

[Lach72]

For mine Miller is in the first 3 picked with Bont and Oliver

 

[aussierulesrules]

Steele is a machine.

With the game in the balance at 3/4 time and our recent history of last-quarter fadeouts, Steele put the team on his back and had the following in the last quarter:

15 disposals (@93% efficiency)
6 contested possessions
5 marks
4 clearances
2 goals
1 goal assist
65 fantasy points

Beast mode.

 

[Ambrosia]

With the game in the balance at 3/4 time and our recent history of last-quarter fadeouts, Steele put the team on his back and had the following in the last quarter:

15 disposals (@93% efficiency)
6 contested possessions
5 marks
4 clearances
2 goals
1 goal assist
65 fantasy points

Beast mode.

What I like about Steele is it just looks so routine for him. Doesn’t have those big flashy plays just consistently wins the ball and makes the right football play.

Mids with elite strength like Steele, Cunnington, Kennedy just seem to get smarter and smarter at using it to their advantage throughout games as they get older.

 

[DrPowellPepper]

Most of the crap in this thread coming from Dees fans. What’s wrong fellas, not used to these conversations

Yes precisely. U dont finish in the top 8 u don’t get much representation that’s fact . No wonder my fellow supporters find it mind boggling that certain groups of people think McKay, Walsh and weitering are walk up starts

 

[Veer Right]

With the game in the balance at 3/4 time and our recent history of last-quarter fadeouts, Steele put the team on his back and had the following in the last quarter:

15 disposals (@93% efficiency)
6 contested possessions
5 marks
4 clearances
2 goals
1 goal assist
65 fantasy points

Beast mode.

Rather let his footy do the talking while everyone fights over who is is the starting three mids. We who follow our team know he's a jet and that is all that matters.

Beating Brisbane in QLD is footballs hardest ask and we not only did that but flogged them on the back of Steele leading the way. Says it all really.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yes precisely. U dont finish in the top 8 u don’t get much representation that’s fact . No wonder my fellow supporters find it mind boggling that certain groups of people think McKay, Walsh and weitering are walk up starts

McKay is a walk up start atm.
THFC.. I know your pain my brother.

 

[Halftimehero]

Nowhere near the 22 though. Just been too many good mids this year.

Not sure you can say he is nowhere near it, probably isn’t in it at this stage but is not very far off, still a over a quarter of a season left.

He’ll get coaches votes this round and it’ll be his 11th game out of 16 he has done so.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I’m a Freo supporter so biased obvies. But at the moment it goes Gawn>Darcy>Daylight. And In terms of impact Darcy has probably been in front the last few weeks. But as you said to be in consideration for AA he really has to sustain it for a year or two.

Nah, no biases to be seen here.

 

[eth-dog]

You do realise that I've already proven that he isn't damaging. Since I said that there's basically been a media storm on his ineffectiveness. Sunday Footy Show, to On the Couch all criticised him. I think Darcy himself even said it.

Also, you do realise that there's only a handful of players that get the inside midfield time that Parish gets so of course he is going to be performing on the stat sheet. If Salem played full time inside mid, he'd probably be up there too. It's just about opportunity. And parish literally proved that. He was just wasting away in the forward line all of his career. Then gets opportunity and inside mid time and is doing statistically well. That's clearly no coincidence.

All of them have said he needs to be more damaging to be considered amongst Bontempelli, Martin, Dangerfield. That's not "Darcy Parish isn't damaging".

Seriously, if he weren't damaging he wouldn't be 4th in score involvements in the AFL, and a total of TWO midfielders would have more goal assists than him. It's pretty clear you've taken a set against Parish and are twisting what people say to suit that argument.

As I said, congrats on keep on putting up this stuff despite being so terribly wrong pretty much the entire time.

FB: Hurn H.Andrews R.Laird
HB: Lever S.May C.Daniel
C: S.Walsh Bontempelli McCluggage
HF: D.Martin J.Riewoldt T.Greene
FF: L.Ryan T.Hawkins. S.Bolton
Foll: Gawn, Oliver, Petracca.

Int: J.Steele, C.Cameron, Zorko. Shuey.

This won't be the AA but this team would smash whatever AA team gets assembled or most of the teams that you guys are guessing what the team will be. I've valued guys that have performed on the big stage like Hurn, Riewoldt, Shuey, Dusty and Hawkins and prioritised accurate goal kickers that take their chances.

I'm picking guys like Hurn, Shuey and Caleb Daniel for their ball use over guys like Parish, Tom Mitchell, Macrae etc.

The reason that this team is better is mostly the forward line. Riewoldt/Hawkins/Dusty/Ryan/T.Greene/S.Bolton is farrrrrrr more scary than 'H.Mckay, Walker, Tipungwuti, Z.Bailey'

And the award for worst post in the thread goes to...

 

[marcmurphy3]

My updated team:

B: Lever Andrews Stewart
HB: Dale Weitering Rich
C: Macrae Oliver Walsh
HF: Kelly Walker Petracca
F: Greene McKay Hawkins
OB: Gawn Bontompelli Parish
I/C: Miller Steele May Wines

Struggling with the forward line. Aside from Greene no small / medium forwards are deserving in my view. I put Josh Kelly because he is going at a goal a game and playing well as a mid, but is very lucky. I think the mids named here have separated themselves from the pack. Merrett would be next in line and is unlucky. Still seeing McLuggage in a lot of teams. He has dropped off the last 6 weeks (I watch every Brisbane game) and shouldn't be in unless you desperately want a specialist winger. Don't get the argument that ladder position should dictate how many reps are selected from each team. This this is an individual award.

 

[Themanbun]

Did I just read that virtually anyone can do what Parish has done with enough midfield time? ****ING lol. The bloke has elevated himself to one of the best in the game, and there's plenty of blokes who get as much mid time as him.

 

[aussierulesrules]

My updated team:

B: Lever Andrews Stewart
HB: Dale Weitering Rich
C: Macrae Oliver Walsh
HF: Kelly Walker Petracca
F: Greene McKay Hawkins
OB: Gawn Bontompelli Parish
I/C: Miller Steele May Wines

Struggling with the forward line. Aside from Greene no small / medium forwards are deserving in my view. I put Josh Kelly because he is going at a goal a game and playing well as a mid, but is very lucky. I think the mids named here have separated themselves from the pack. Merrett would be next in line and is unlucky. Still seeing McLuggage in a lot of teams. He has dropped off the last 6 weeks (I watch every Brisbane game) and shouldn't be in unless you desperately want a specialist winger. Don't get the argument that ladder position should dictate how many reps are selected from each team. This this is an individual award.

Haven’t watched much Brisbane this year but I barely realised Clugg was playing last night.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

there is some bloody good midfielders this year.

Wines, Bont, Miller, Parish, Walsh, Macrae, Oliver, Steele, Petracca have all been excellent

 

[Back One Out]

My updated team:

B: Lever Andrews Stewart
HB: Dale Weitering Rich
C: Macrae Oliver Walsh
HF: Kelly Walker Petracca
F: Greene McKay Hawkins
OB: Gawn Bontompelli Parish
I/C: Miller Steele May Wines

Struggling with the forward line. Aside from Greene no small / medium forwards are deserving in my view. I put Josh Kelly because he is going at a goal a game and playing well as a mid, but is very lucky. I think the mids named here have separated themselves from the pack. Merrett would be next in line and is unlucky. Still seeing McLuggage in a lot of teams. He has dropped off the last 6 weeks (I watch every Brisbane game) and shouldn't be in unless you desperately want a specialist winger. Don't get the argument that ladder position should dictate how many reps are selected from each team. This this is an individual award.

Three Carlton players in the starting XVIII ? I don't think so.

I think Allir Allir has been the best CHB this year

Harry McKay is leading the Coleman race, but I'm struggling to think of when he last played a decent game.
He's been average to mediocre over the past couple of months. You couldn't possibly pick him ahead of Hawkins, eh?

If McKay gets picked purely on stats (i.e. leading goalkicker), he'll be the worst-performed AA key forward ever.


R01: Rich... 2.3__10 disp, 6 marks
R02: Coll.... 4.0__10 disp, 6 marks
R03: Freo... 7.5__17 disp, 10 marks. 9 VOTES
R04: Gold... 2.2___9 disp, 4 marks
R05: Port.... 1.2___5 disp, 5 marks
R06: Bris.... 6.2__15 disp, 9 marks _8 VOTES
R07: Ess..... 4.2__12 disp, 6 marks
R08: W.B.... 4.1___7 disp, 7 marks
R09: Melb... 3.0___8 disp, 4 marks
R10: Haw... 2.0___6 disp, 4 marks
R11: Syd.... 3.5__11 disp, 8 marks _4 VOTES
R12: WCE... 0.1___1 disp, 1 marks
R14: GWS... 3.2__13 disp, 8 marks
R15: Adel... 2.2___8 disp, 6 marks
R16: Freo... 3.1___8 disp, 4 marks
R17: Geel... 2.3__11 disp, 4 marks

^^
Does this look like an All Australian season?

 

[ashep]

Has there been a top 4 team in recent memory with no AAs?

Looking at the Swans run home it's entirely possible we make it but Mills would be our best shot and is on the outside looking into a stellar midfield crop.

 

[Ambrosia]

Has there been a top 4 team in recent memory with no AAs?

Looking at the Swans run home it's entirely possible we make it but Mills would be our best shot and is on the outside looking into a stellar midfield crop.

If you guys win enough games to make top 4 I think Buddy will make it

 

[masai]

My updated team:

B: Lever Andrews Stewart
HB: Dale Weitering Rich
C: Macrae Oliver Walsh
HF: Kelly Walker Petracca
F: Greene McKay Hawkins
OB: Gawn Bontompelli Parish
I/C: Miller Steele May Wines

Struggling with the forward line. Aside from Greene no small / medium forwards are deserving in my view. I put Josh Kelly because he is going at a goal a game and playing well as a mid, but is very lucky. I think the mids named here have separated themselves from the pack. Merrett would be next in line and is unlucky. Still seeing McLuggage in a lot of teams. He has dropped off the last 6 weeks (I watch every Brisbane game) and shouldn't be in unless you desperately want a specialist winger. Don't get the argument that ladder position should dictate how many reps are selected from each team. This this is an individual award.

Josh Kelly, you’re stretching there.

Oh well, I reckon there are far better players than him. No love for veteran players ?.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Three Carlton players in the starting 18? Hmmm... I don't think so.

Allir Allir has been the best CHB this year

Harry McKay is leading the Coleman race, but I'm struggling to think of when he last played a decent game.
He's been average to mediocre over the past couple of months. You couldn't pick him ahead of Hawkins, eh?

If McKay gets picked purely on stats (i.e. goals), he'll be the worst-performed AA key forward ever.


R01: Rich... 2.3__10 disp, 6 marks
R02: Coll.... 4.0__10 disp, 6 marks
R03: Freo... 7.5__17 disp, 10 marks. 9 VOTES
R04: Gold... 2.2___9 disp, 4 marks
R05: Port.... 1.2___5 disp, 5 marks
R06: Bris.... 6.2__15 disp, 9 marks _8 VOTES
R07: Ess..... 4.2__12 disp, 6 marks
R08: W.B.... 4.1___7 disp, 7 marks
R09: Melb... 3.0___8 disp, 4 marks
R10: Haw... 2.0___6 disp, 4 marks
R11: Syd.... 3.5__11 disp, 8 marks _4 VOTES
R12: WCE... 0.1___1 disp, 1 marks
R14: GWS... 3.2__13 disp, 8 marks
R15: Adel... 2.2___8 disp, 6 marks
R16: Freo... 3.1___8 disp, 4 marks
R17: Geel... 2.3__11 disp, 4 marks

^^
Does this look like an All Australian season?

It is an individual award. None of those 3 Carlton players would be out of place in the team.

I think any two of May, Weitering, Andrews and Allir would be deserved picks for KPD. I would have Allir last in that group but don't think he would be a bad pick.

Agree that McKay has been pretty average lately however key forwards in general have been poor. He is leading the coleman easily and in a year like this, that is enough for him to be in. He is 11 goals clear of hawkins despite being knocked out at the start of a game. I have Hawkins in anyway so not sure what your point is there.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Josh Kelly, you’re stretching there.

Oh well, I reckon there are far better players than him. No love for veteran players ?.

He would be the least deserving pick in that team. Struggling for that 3rd small / medium forward spot after Pettracca and Greene. No actual small / medium forward has been deserving and no other deserving midfielder has kicked enough goals to be named there. Bont could but he has been dominant this year and deserves to be named in the middle.

 

[eth-dog]

He would be the least deserving pick in that team. Struggling for that 3rd small / medium forward spot after Pettracca and Greene. No actual small / medium forward has been deserving and no other deserving midfielder has kicked enough goals to be named there. Bont could but he has been dominant this year and deserves to be named in the middle.

There's a bloke with 32 goals and 19 goal assists so far this year that might disagree.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

there is some bloody good midfielders this year.

Wines, Bont, Miller, Parish, Walsh, Macrae, Oliver, Steele, Petracca have all been excellent

I think these will be the exact nine in the team.

Bont + Oliver locks for centreman/ruck rover. Walsh + Macrae seem the most obvious choices for the wings due to play style. Petracca will almost certainly be named on the HFF. The other four should fill out rover and a few bench spots. Last year they fit in 10 with Martin hidden in a forward pocket.

Think Mundy, Guthrie, McCluggage and Merrett are also close but miss out at the stage.

 

[kreglze]

I'm done petitioning for Miller to be in the AA team, almost a given now. The man now needs to be starting in the 18.