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He seems from the outside to be more of the “quietly go about your business” kind of guy.
Player Watch Rory Laird
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They players they do rate have all failed spectacularly
Wazzy36
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Would you rather they force someone who isn't an onfield leader?
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He's been keen for it in the past. So that wouldn't be the case.
But yes. Yes I would.
Southerntakeover
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People who didn't rate him were absolutely right
He's in should be dropped category now.
And traded if we can.
Too late to trade him now, just put him in the backlines and hopefully he can be serviceable there.
I said it at the time, it's another Brent Reilly situation - we found a new role for him where he excelled, but it was never going to last - we should've traded him at his peak.
The value he had then far exceeded his value to us.
The stupidity of going through a rebuild and only trading fringe players for barely meaningful return - classic AFC complacency.
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Can someone explain all the Laird hate and give some specific examples?
Once the AFL post the replay I'd like to have a look at what others are seeing.
Once the AFL post the replay I'd like to have a look at what others are seeing.
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He has zero hurt factor. No penetration on his kick so is incapable of high risk / high reward options and instead sticks with dinky safe options, yet has been somehow missing those lately too.
Not a marking target, doesn’t kick goals and is not overly quick. Historically he’s been a great tackler but missed a number of those last night.
Seems like a terrific bloke and has got the absolute max out of his career given his physical limitations, but we need more impactful players as our starting mids if we actually want to win anything.
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I think they got shy when Brouch didnt get what they wanted
I recall sometime ago reading an article about a coach I think in College football but could be wrong: he had a philosophy that no one was off the trade table it was only worth trading while you still had value, and this gave him a shot at the title ever 6-8 years
Would forward pocket work given he could play the defensive forward role? At the moment neither Murphy, Keays or Laird are demanding selection. Would prefer Jones at HB to Laird as he has speed, skills and is a good tackler.
Laird to FP, Keaya left out and Edwards in
Laird to FP, Keaya left out and Edwards in
I don’t mid him playing the Murphy role, but I worry is this making the side better, or are we just trying to keep him in the side
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It would be even better if we didn't even have a Murphy role
Laird was really good in Q1, sticking tackles, disposing of it to players running clear, and then kicked that goal start of Q2. Looked brilliant.
Rest of the game...
Here here it’s just exposing our forwards, so in saying that it’s just finding a spot in the side………… x
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Wright, Petrenko, Murphy, Rowe, McHenry
It's a nothing role for rubbish tryers. The footy version of an oxygen thief
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16 CBAs, * all clearances. Hit one good kick last night, one. He did kick a massive fluke goal, but that didn't really make up for his other stuff ups that cost us goals. The most egregious stuff up was a centre bounce where we had open space in front of us, he receives a handball and instead of moving forward, immediately turns into the contest, for no reason, puts himself under pressure and then handballs to a stationary O'Brien.
He also pulled out of a contest last night that resulted in a Melbourne goal.
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And sometimes they get made to look good against the West Coasts and North Melbounes of the world which means they keep getting selected and then are obviously invisible against strong opponents.
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That shirked contest was pathetic should be put on replay in the team meeting.
I think what I said at the start of the rebuild or whatever we're calling it this week, no matter what side of the argument, even if he is actually good enough, so what? Even more relevant now that he's 30+. No point opening the required 5 year of top 4-ish window to try and win a premiership if you get there and your most important midfielder is 32 years old (we are clearly not there yet)
Then we look at other premiership teams, most if not all of them have midfielders who were drafted as midfielders, well inside the top 10 picks.
These are guys who start the year, most years, in the discussion for Brownlows or towards the top of best players in the league lists.
I don't see us getting there with very good forwards, defenders, others, who are sold to us as "and he could run through the midfield for 5 minutes" or "one day he could become a midfielder", I'm still waiting for Graham Johncocks breakout season in the midfield, very good player but it was never going to happen, guess we finally got one with Laird. There is no bonus premiership points for taking someone in the rookie draft or the forward pocket and eventually, one day, turning them into a value pick midfielder.
Great midfielders I see as he's been dominating that position in juniors, drafted as that position, good enough to play year 1 or 2 in that position, maybe would also be excellent if you put them forward or back or whatever, but that's just because they are that good.
It looks like we might get a chance to dip back down the bottom of the ladder to get one, but let's see what Tasmanian key defender we get...
Then we look at other premiership teams, most if not all of them have midfielders who were drafted as midfielders, well inside the top 10 picks.
These are guys who start the year, most years, in the discussion for Brownlows or towards the top of best players in the league lists.
I don't see us getting there with very good forwards, defenders, others, who are sold to us as "and he could run through the midfield for 5 minutes" or "one day he could become a midfielder", I'm still waiting for Graham Johncocks breakout season in the midfield, very good player but it was never going to happen, guess we finally got one with Laird. There is no bonus premiership points for taking someone in the rookie draft or the forward pocket and eventually, one day, turning them into a value pick midfielder.
Great midfielders I see as he's been dominating that position in juniors, drafted as that position, good enough to play year 1 or 2 in that position, maybe would also be excellent if you put them forward or back or whatever, but that's just because they are that good.
It looks like we might get a chance to dip back down the bottom of the ladder to get one, but let's see what Tasmanian key defender we get...
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For those of you having a go at Rory Laird, Please have a look at the replay when sober.
Soligo was widely considered best on ground by many - I ask who gave him the ball all night?
The midfield & Laird ain't the problem.
Soligo was widely considered best on ground by many - I ask who gave him the ball all night?
The midfield & Laird ain't the problem.
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Back pocket lockdown role.
Can only have one in an under extractor and I prefer crouch, he's more creative with his handpass and has a stronger body.
Laird doesn't need to be uber creative as a lockdown defender and still think he can give us some really value.
He's not a natural forward, I wouldn't waste time trying him there
Can only have one in an under extractor and I prefer crouch, he's more creative with his handpass and has a stronger body.
Laird doesn't need to be uber creative as a lockdown defender and still think he can give us some really value.
He's not a natural forward, I wouldn't waste time trying him there
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Yes, he had one year as a midfielder (2020 when we finished bottom), we had just lost Brad Crouch and we literally panicked.
Says it all.
Same as how we gave Milera a 5 year contract. By all means give them a five year contract but have conditions attached to it.
