Opinion Round 16 Changes vs. Melbourne

[The Black Sheep]

Not disagreeing it will be tough for him to hold his spot, all I am saying based on his WAFL form he has earned 2-3 games. If he plays well he keeps his spot, otherwise he doesn't.

I agree. But I bet Ross brings deBoer in, in the next couple of weeks. I know most people would rather see Mora first but I think Ross thinks so highly of DB that he'll be in maybe as soon as this week. Walters, Johnno and macca aren't far off either. So it then becomes a case of a lack of an available spot ala Viv Michie 2013. Playing supurbly in the WAFL but no senior call up. I do hope I'm wrong of course.

 

[StingBitten]

You can laugh at me all you want, maybe his form at freo has been average but as someone who watched him extremely closely 2004-2013 if there is one thing he is elite at it is contested marking.

Similar to what Port players said about D. Pearce and look how well we've done with him (I'm not being sarcastic by the way).

The jobs no where near done but my prediction is by end of year D. Pearce will be a Top-5 player and I believe Sylvia will walk the same path.

 

[The Black Sheep]

Similar to what Port players said about D. Pearce and look how well we've done with him (I'm not being sarcastic by the way).

The jobs no where near done but my prediction is by end of year D. Pearce will be a Top-5 player and I believe Sylvia will walk the same path.

It's amazing isn't it. You wouldn't think people watch the same games. All those calling for Danyle to be dropped and others (me included) think he's having a ripper year. I was living in Adelaide (finally escaped that hole!) when we signed Pearce and a couple of my friends were Port supporters were almost happy he was going. One of them said "you can have him, he's crap anyway". I wonder if they still think he's crap?

 

[UFO Tatsu]

It's amazing isn't it. You wouldn't think people watch the same games. All those calling for Danyle to be dropped and others (me included) think he's having a ripper year. I was living in Adelaide (finally escaped that hole!) when we signed Pearce and a couple of my friends were Port supporters were almost happy he was going. One of them said "you can have him, he's crap anyway". I wonder if they still think he's crap?

i would think that they still do considering how well they are going now. but that is fine, he is doing well for us and that is all that really matters

 

[estibador]

Similar to what Port players said about D. Pearce and look how well we've done with him (I'm not being sarcastic by the way).

The jobs no where near done but my prediction is by end of year D. Pearce will be a Top-5 player and I believe Sylvia will walk the same path.

I like Pearce but there's some pretty stiff competition to be a top 5 player at Freo these days.

Fyfe, Mundy, Sandi, Pav, McPharlin, Hill, Barlow, Ballas and Walters would all be comfortably ahead of him. Probably Crowley too based on effectiveness at fulfilling your role.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

It's amazing isn't it. You wouldn't think people watch the same games. All those calling for Danyle to be dropped and others (me included) think he's having a ripper year. I was living in Adelaide (finally escaped that hole!) when we signed Pearce and a couple of my friends were Port supporters were almost happy he was going. One of them said "you can have him, he's crap anyway". I wonder if they still think he's crap?

Danyle is having an OK year. I'm still waiting for him to deliver on the elite disposal he promised when we picked him up.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Danyle is having an OK year. I'm still waiting for him to deliver on the elite disposal he promised when we picked him up.

Last couple of weeks have been a bit more noticeably fumble-y by my estimation, which kind of offsets his first few games. But I think by now we should realise his disposal is inconsistent. You'd still easily have him in the side though given his speed, ability to find the ball (better than I initially thought) and sheer metre-age gained.

 

[theGav56]

I like Pearce but there's some pretty stiff competition to be a top 5 player at Freo these days.

Fyfe, Mundy, Sandi, Pav, McPharlin, Hill, Barlow, Ballas and Walters would all be comfortably ahead of him. Probably Crowley too based on effectiveness at fulfilling your role.

MJ as well easily in our top tier.

 

[estibador]

MJ as well easily in our top tier.

For sure, I knew I'd forget someone.

 

[Simmofreo]

What do you guys think the chances are of Apeness getting a go soon ? And is Gumby going to actually get back ?

The way I look at it is Clarke has had some crap games up forward and we have not lost much and still got the 4 points.

I believe it's worth having a crack on these guys and see what they offer. May need a tall firing come finals.

Ross did say in the off season that's what we needed to go one better. Season is 3/4 done and we still have no second KPF down there

 

[StingBitten]

I like Pearce but there's some pretty stiff competition to be a top 5 player at Freo these days.

Fyfe, Mundy, Sandi, Pav, McPharlin, Hill, Barlow, Ballas and Walters would all be comfortably ahead of him. Probably Crowley too based on effectiveness at fulfilling your role.

Just trying to iterate my confidence in him.

 

[Freo Dr]

Danyle is having an OK year. I'm still waiting for him to deliver on the elite disposal he promised when we picked him up.

Danyles disposal is actually really good atm as long as it is a field kick or quick snap kick on goal. He has doubts with his set shots or the mental pressure of that open goal against WCE. Watched him in the warm up and he missed nearly every set shot he had but in the game his field kicking was fine. If he can fix that up by doing some mental work like Mayne did then we would have a real player because he has improved in most other respects.

 

[strobe00]

I think it's Neale who is keeping Mora out of the team, espsecially if Mora views himself as a winger inside mid.

Yep, spot on for mine. Suban is another whose recent form might make it hard to squeeze Mora into the team. Sutty spending more time on the wing instead of being more exclusively in the backline is another that makes it difficult to bring Mora in.

Agree that his marking is very good, however, not in the same post code as Fyfe. Having said all that Col should have received at least 2 free kicks for front on contact vs WCE.

F*cking Margetts.

 

[strobe00]

Danyles disposal is actually really good atm as long as it is a field kick or quick snap kick on goal. He has doubts with his set shots or the mental pressure of that open goal against WCE. Watched him in the warm up and he missed nearly every set shot he had but in the game his field kicking was fine. If he can fix that up by doing some mental work like Mayne did then we would have a real player because he has improved in most other respects.

My read is that Pearce is kind of the opposite of Mundy and Duffield. Both of those guys can have a bloke breathing down their neck and remain composed enough to find the right option, and then hit them with the kick or handball. PearceD has such fast feet and is so left sided that he sprints around like he's trapped in a phone box when when someone's closing in on him... and seems to panic when he can't open up the right angle or get enough space to use his left. I think sometimes Pearce's pace and agility work against him.

He's been a lot better as the season has worn on, but he still has times when he over-rushes his kicks... and they don't come off as well as they should for a guy that is such a beautiful field kick (according to others) in training. It's definitely a mental thing. Needs to channel Mundy and Duff a bit more.

Last couple of weeks have been a bit more noticeably fumble-y by my estimation, which kind of offsets his first few games. But I think by now we should realise his disposal is inconsistent. You'd still easily have him in the side though given his speed, ability to find the ball (better than I initially thought) and sheer metre-age gained.

Nice summary really. One key point to add is how hard he goes after contested ball, and how hard he chases though the midfield. That's been the biggest surprise for me, considering every man and his dog (oppo and ours) had him earmarked as a soft player when we recruited him. Even in his poorer ball-use games his tackling pressure and attack on the man/ball has been really valuable.

Creates a lot of doubt in the minds of midfielders when they don't know whether it'll be PearceD, Hill, Balla or Mayne that'll be cutting them in half, inside the next breath. His pace is obviously valuable on the spread, but is just as valuable in defensive transition as well... which is something I think we supporters often miss.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Yep, spot on for mine. Suban is another whose recent form might make it hard to squeeze Mora into the team. Sutty spending more time on the wing instead of being more exclusively in the backline is another that makes it difficult to bring Mora in.

Agreed, I think Clancee is one who's role maybe should be in question. I absolutely love Clancee but he is horribly suited to the Sub. If you're gong to play him, it should be a full game on the HBF where he can use his magical kicking efficiency. Problem is we have Duffman and Sutcliffe filling that role as starters.

 

[jmadrox]

Agreed, I think Clancee is one who's role maybe should be in question. I absolutely love Clancee but he is horribly suited to the Sub. If you're gong to play him, it should be a full game on the HBF where he can use his magical kicking efficiency. Problem is we have Duffman and Sutcliffe filling that role as starters.

the sad thing is, when Mora gets a run, he might just out shine Sutty, Suban, Sylvia, and Clancee so such a level, we could just be left wondering, "why not sooner".

In my humble opinion, Mora has greater potential than Suban or Clancee. But RTB wont ever pick someone one on potential (which I agree with). So it is such a predicament.

Mora has to be so close to earning a run... it will happen soon.

 

[Kenny_01]

Danyle's strength is his workrate. His workrate is quite impressive and you can really notice it at the end of games when his legs are still pumping. For that combined with the run he provides and long kicks inside 50, he has a place in our side without doubt.

He does need to work on improving skills and ball handling under heavy pressure; I am sure Ross is addressing these issues with him.

 

[The Black Sheep]

What do you guys think the chances are of Apeness getting a go soon ? And is Gumby going to actually get back ?

The way I look at it is Clarke has had some crap games up forward and we have not lost much and still got the 4 points.

I believe it's worth having a crack on these guys and see what they offer. May need a tall firing come finals.

Ross did say in the off season that's what we needed to go one better. Season is 3/4 done and we still have no second KPF down there

It will come down to his 2 way running. Realistically he's not going to play (regularly) until 2016 (I'd imagine). He's a great pack mark, but he won't be as dominant a mark at AFL level where everyone is a big strong body. If he can't hit running KPI's he becomes a liability. Love the kid to prove me wrong, but I'd say no. If anyone's coming in for Clarke, I'd put the house on either Griff or Kep.

 

[pokerspiv]

the sad thing is, when Mora gets a run, he might just out shine Sutty, Suban, Sylvia, and Clancee so such a level, we could just be left wondering, "why not sooner".

I have no doubt he will do just that. Morabito is destined to be an elite player if he can stay uninjured.

 

[Righteo]

Danyle's strength is his workrate. His workrate is quite impressive and you can really notice it at the end of games when his legs are still pumping. For that combined with the run he provides and long kicks inside 50, he has a place in our side without doubt.

He does need to work on improving skills and ball handling under heavy pressure; I am sure Ross is addressing these issues with him.

Can't disagree on the first paragraph, he wouldn't be playing if his workrate was sub-par even fractionally.

However I'm not so confident on the second line, this is an issue that has plagued him throughout his entire career and at his age I really don't see it as an area we can expect much improvement from. He almost has more value as an inside mid these days IMHO (see Hawthorn game) but of course that's undoubtedly our strength and on the outside we'll eventually want to be including Mora/Simpson (fingers crossed)/Crozier/Sutty (not a permanent defender) Sheridan and co so I think after this year he should be under the pump to retain his spot.

Having said that I have liked his year so far with the exception of the Port game and his last few weeks. Hope he gets a nice confidence boost from this stretch of easier games because as reminiscent of Rhys Palmer he is a BIG confidence player and the difference between his best and worst depending on that confidence is ugly.

 

[AAACockburn]

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[Freeeoo]

What do you guys think the chances are of Apeness getting a go soon ? And is Gumby going to actually get back ?

The way I look at it is Clarke has had some crap games up forward and we have not lost much and still got the 4 points.

I believe it's worth having a crack on these guys and see what they offer. May need a tall firing come finals.

Ross did say in the off season that's what we needed to go one better. Season is 3/4 done and we still have no second KPF down there

I don't recon we'll see Apeness until next year.

 

[Purple Jesus]

On Mora, it's not about skill. It's fitness - he's not able to run out 4 qtrs at AFL level at the level he would want to perform at. 4 qtrs in the WAFL is of more benefit than 1 qtr and potential liability in the AFL. He's building but 4 qtrs at peak output is regarded as more important for selection than anything else at Freo.

 

[freoextra]

On Mora, it's not about skill. It's fitness - he's not able to run out 4 qtrs at AFL level at the level he would want to perform at. 4 qtrs in the WAFL is of more benefit than 1 qtr and potential liability in the AFL. He's building but 4 qtrs at peak output is regarded as more important for selection than anything else at Freo.

Even if not in final 22, I would like to see him travel with the team for the first time.

 

[PapaJ]

It will come down to his 2 way running. Realistically he's not going to play (regularly) until 2016 (I'd imagine). He's a great pack mark, but he won't be as dominant a mark at AFL level where everyone is a big strong body. If he can't hit running KPI's he becomes a liability. Love the kid to prove me wrong, but I'd say no. If anyone's coming in for Clarke, I'd put the house on either Griff or Kep.

Yeah, that's pretty much right I think. I suspect Apeness missed his chance for a taste of the big time when he picked up injury earlier in the season when there were spots available. As the fitness of Keps, Griff and Gumby builds, and with Ross seemingly happy with Tabs development (who, keep in mind, was picked to play fwd on the weekend before a last minute change of mind from RTB), it might be a bit late in the year for Apeness to get an 'experimental' game, so to speak.