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Round 2 Vs. Hawthorn - Changes

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CaptainDavey

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Alright kids, time to pick ourselves off the canvas. Was a kick in the nuts to lose to the Saints in the manner in which we did however as the old saying goes 'there's always next week'. With Brock out, hopefully Byron can come in and ruffle some feathers on Monday. Does anyone know anything about Syl and how he's traveling at the moment? Could he come in? Godfrey is another possibility.

From all reports I've heard Wheels is good to go after his mammoth hit on Ball. There are doubts here and there whether the bump was legal or not but if he gets suspended for it I'm going to scream bloody murder. There was no suspension from the Giansiracusa and Kosi incident last year and it was almost a carbon copy of that hit so I believe he should be OK.

As mentioned by a lot of us Melbourne supporters, this has to be Oozes final chance. It's not as though the record is going to cement him as an all time great in history...Does anyone else believe that a record like this, albeit rather impressive, is a bit hazy. What indication is there? That he played his heart out in every game or he avoided dropping games by slacking off? But yes, last chance for Ooze.

McLean seems to be our only certain out, any ideas for the ins?

I believe our back line is pretty sound despite the toweling Chopper got from Gehrig. Hopefully Jared can come back to tighten the screws. Would be insane to play Carroll on Franklin again after the NAB Cup disaster. Poses the question, who do we play on Franklin? Bruce? I have the impression that Franklin lacks a defensive side to his game, and Brucey could damage on the rebound because of this. Wheels can do a job on the likes of Clarke/Williams whereas Carroll can play on Roughead or Boyle, depending on who the Hawks throw up forward. Campbell is likely to go up there given a somewhat hight disadvantage the Hawks have.

You would suspect that McDonald will do a job on Hodge or Mitchell. Jones could take Mitchell as they are similar players. Forward line is functioning properly but as always, the worry is Miller. The Hawks back line seems rather unaccountable and I believe Robbo will perform well having to play against the likes of Jacobs or Young. Neitz to have a good game too!

Also, ditch the handpass gameplan. After watching the Hawthorn Brisbane game, the Hawks seem to lack a bit of a toughness/strength side to them. Hopefully we can capitalize on this through Jones, McDonald, Moloney, Neitz and Whelan. There are technical problems we must rectify throughout the week which is manageable. But come Monday we gotta hit them hard in the middle and pump it long into the forward line. Old fashioned football should prevail against the Hawks I would have thought.

Demons by 18 points. Suggested changes would be great guys!

Cheers:thumbsu: CD
 
Not sure if you guys know, but Sylvia has OP. He is a carbon copy of Moloney last year and will be lucky to play any senior games this year.

Rivers will come in and i assume Pickett.

Bell is a decent defender and needs to stay in the side but there is room for Yze to go. With a ball winner like Jones in the team now we don't need Yze in the team. Unless the guy can go up forward and create goals but otherwise i think he is useless. The guy can't take marks under pressure so has probably done his dash i reckon.

The other guy is Miller. Can this guy take a mark going back into the pack yet without crapping himself?? Wow he did it big time again on Friday night in the 4th qtr. Such a big guy and such a big girl.

We need to go to our 2004 strategy and i am not sure why Daniher hasn't gone back to it. Lets bomb it long and let our forwards win one on one. In 2004 we were top of the ladder at round 18 and the reason is we had the most inside 50's.

Friday night surely proves without going inside 50 you can't kick goals? All this useless handballing and kicking short does nothing. Lets pressure the opposition and kick long to our leading forwards of Robbo, Neitz, Dunn when he is back and for the time being Miller. Davey needs to concentrate of crumbing these forwards not running out of puff in the backline or running on the outskirts of packs.

Daniher lets wake up and play some attacking footy!! Get it down to our forwards, its that simple.
 

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Too bad we can't make 22.

Sylvia for McLean.

Wheatley for Whelan (if he can't make it).

Pickett for CJ/Bell, don't really care which one.

I think Bartram needs some time in the seconds. Came back too early.

Pickett to replace Ward.

Whelan will play.

Please, someone drop Miller. He doesn't deserve a spot in the team this week. And Sylvia is a must. We need to take a punt on this guy.
 
I think Bartram needs some time in the seconds. Came back too early.

Pickett to replace Ward.

Whelan will play.

Please, someone drop Miller. He doesn't deserve a spot in the team this week. And Sylvia is a must. We need to take a punt on this guy.

Perhaps try and play Johnson of the Paul variety at CHF ahead of Miller? We need to see more of PJ I reckon
 
Perhaps try and play Johnson of the Paul variety at CHF ahead of Miller? We need to see more of PJ I reckon
Worth a try I reckon.
PJ for Miller
Pickett for Mclean
Sylvia(if better than 60%) for Yze.
Rivers for Ward.
4 changes is unlikely, but ND must try something.
 
could bizzel come in to take franklin?
bizzel rivers and pickett in
mclean and 2 of yze/johnson/bell/ward
 
It doesn't matter who plays. Sandringham should be able to beat Hawthorn, they are a rabble.
 
It doesn't matter who plays. Sandringham should be able to beat Hawthorn, they are a rabble.

You know they say the same thing about Carlton...

I admire your confidence cause I sure as hell don't have a whole lot but we should beat them...Should
 
I wouldn't be making too many changes for round 2. For one, lets give some of the guys more than one round before we pass judgement on them, we all know how form can fluctuate.

Secondly, it won't do anyone any favours to be chopping and changing the team around constantly. Team balance is a very important to our structure and performance.

Having said that, I'll think we'll see two changes for the clash:

Ins: Pickett, Rivers
Outs: McLean, Bartram
 
We dont need to make drastic changes. Gameplan is the problem - handball-happy rubbish. Should be interesting though, us and Hawthorn probably the most ordinary looking sides in the first round.

In: Rivers, Pickett
Out: McLean, Yze

Lets not forget, Brock is important, but he is one player and if we can't function without him we aren't much of a team. I'd like to see Sylvia back in the action ASAP. With Brock gone, this is the perfect opportunity to give him a go in the guts and see what he can do. Miller is on paper-thin ice surely - Dunn would have his spot if it wasn't for injury.
 
IN: Sylvia, Pickett, Rivers

Out: Ward, McLean, Yze

Green goes to half-back flank, his skill and pace will be very good coming out of defence, Rivers his natural CHB position, playing forward, swapping off the bench with each other, allows bruce to tag/play off hodge.

Whelan Carrol Holland
Green Rivers Bell
TJ Bruce Moloney
Pickett Miller Bate
Davey Neitz Robbo

White Junior Jones

CJ Jamar Bartram Sylvia
 

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I wouldn't kick out Ward. He was decent on Friday I thought. Remember, it's all relative here. I'd rather drop Bartram than Yze. Yze can have another chance while Bartram needs fitness.
 
McLean out Pickett in
Holland out (21 of the worst touches on friday, and who will he play on) Rivers in
Bartram out (came back too soon) Bizzel in (we need some adventurous play from the backline, I'd rather lose trying to attack than how we did on friday)

This week I'd give Chris Johnson more of a go in the midfield in the great man's absecence, it made be the left foot thing but it looks like CJ can seriously kick a footy, and he looks pretty hard at it.

My other piece of advice would be to flood less and leave all our forwards in the forward half of the ground, with the half forwards between the 50 and the centre and the full forwards inside the 50. So when our backmen and midfielders dont have a clue who to kick it to they have Yze, Miller and Pickett right in the middle of the ground leading for the footy. If the plan doesnt work then we can all jump on Miller and Yze and nothing is lost anyway. What a flawless plan.

PS. Did anyone see Miller's strong CHF like mark in the second quarter on Friday, I though he took one but it might have been my eyes.
 
PS. Did anyone see Miller's strong CHF like mark in the second quarter on Friday, I though he took one but it might have been my eyes.

Did he

a) Turn around and handball it
b) Botch the kick

If not I don't believe you.
 
Did he

a) Turn around and handball it
b) Botch the kick

If not I don't believe you.

Miller should play full forward. He is a strong mark when he leads. Play him in a position that fits his abilities.

Neitz is ok but he'd be better off in pocket these days. Like an old horse.

Dannerhahaha really doesn't have the imagination to coach at senior level.
 
I don't mind the idea of playing Miller inside 50 but in no way is he better than Neitz in any way.

As for Pickett, a story in the age today said that he didn't play on Friday because he was visiting his possibly terminally ill mother in WA. He's expected to play on Monday though.
 

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I don't mind the idea of playing Miller inside 50 but in no way is he better than Neitz in any way.

As for Pickett, a story in the age today said that he didn't play on Friday because he was visiting his possibly terminally ill mother in WA. He's expected to play on Monday though.

No one said he was better than Neitz... but Neitz would benefit from playing in a pocket more than full forward. Full forward is a young man position.
 
No one said he was better than Neitz... but Neitz would benefit from playing in a pocket more than full forward. Full forward is a young man position.

Neitz is crucial at full forward - he can take a contested mark. Miller can't. Play Miller at FF? - surely you jest.
 
Neitz is crucial at full forward - he can take a contested mark. Miller can't. Play Miller at FF? - surely you jest.

Nobody knows because he hasn't played there.

Full forward is a concern... Neitz is getting older... someone has to start thinking about who is going to replace him, hopefully before he hangs up the boots.
 
Clint Bizzell has to play this week no matter what. Last week we were very poor kicking out from defence. Bizzels run from defence is better than Bell or CJ's.
 
We need more attack and experience in defence. Enter Clint Bizzell. There is no match-up for Holland so he is out.

In: Bizzell, Rivers, Wheatley
Out: Holland, McLean (inj.), Ward

B: C.Bizzell, N.Carroll, M.Whelan
HB: D.Bell, J.Rivers, P.Wheatley
C: T.Johnstone, C.Bruce, B.Green
HF: M.Bate, B.Miller, A.Yze
F: A.Davey, D.Neitz, R.Robertson
Foll: J.White, B.Moloney, J.McDonald
I/C: C.Bartram, M.Jamar, C.Johnson, N.Jones

Final oppurtunity for Miller and Yze.
 

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