Prediction Round 5: Changes Vs Essendon + pre-match discussion

[One_Wing]

Lol who here edited Healys wiki page to say Fremantle hater

Doesn't make a lot of sense Healy has mad love for us. It's David King with the hate boner.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Did you see AFL 360 on Tuesday? He sat there with Leigh Montagna

Leigh Montagna

Age

42

Ht

178cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.9

5star

K

14.8

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

4.0

5star

MG

482.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.8

2star

HB

1.2

2star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

and discussed St Kilda and Freo’s stats profiles. Both full of praise for St Kilda and then when Montagna sang Freo’s praises for a good solid 2 minutes Kingy bristles and says ‘it counts for nothing if they don’t win this week’. That was it, his entire contribution to the Freo discussion.

 

[eth-dog]

Doesn't make a lot of sense Healy has mad love for us. It's David King with the hate boner.

He hates us too, hope he commentates just to see the confliction in his head.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Actually now I’m half a coffee down I do recall he had a lot of praise for Brayshaw being the number 1 ranked mid for score involvements despite being the only player in the top 5 that doesn’t rotate forward. And while copping a hard tag.

 

[One_Wing]

Actually now I’m half a coffee down I do recall he had a lot of praise for Brayshaw being the number 1 ranked mid for score involvements despite being the only player in the top 5 that doesn’t rotate forward. And while copping a hard tag.

The man is an expert at stastical analysis

 

[WaywardSonSon]

The man is an expert at stastical analysis

Look under the table - he's wearing Converse All Stars. The dude's statistical analysis, is about as enlightening as a Scomo media address!

 

[Purpletown]

Seeing NO'D play in last weeks game against GWS was the moment I realised we were on the right track as a club. On the right track but too long to get to this point.

Fyfe, Mundy and a few of the older guys are probably not going to play too much more finals footy but for the overall long term benefit of Freo we need to play and develop the younger guys this year even at the expense of a few losses.

Hypothetically if we were to finish seventh or eighth in 2022 at the cost of developing the next generation is a minimal short term gain and best avoided imo.

I had never seen NO'D play until this year when he made his AFL debut but the Intel from some others on here had been that he was a long way off AFL ready and may be was even a bust. Fortunately he seems to be real AFL quality, has upside and fills an on field need too.

There is enough young talent available to build a sustainable future around and I hope Freo are brave enough to look at the long term future at this time rather than go for short term band aids that will probably be of little benefit for the immediate future.

Be brave Freo and develop these young players into a good team that can have a sustainable tilt at finals in the very near future.

 

[Dockeroo]

One of the funniest moments of last season was when we were getting flogged by Geelong in round 18 on Friday night footy by about 70 points and it was the week after Banfield had his one reasonable game a season, when we smashed the Hawks at Launceston.
I think it might have been Michael Voss that was on special comments that night with Brayshaw and BT, or it may have been someone else from channel 7, I can’t remember exactly, but anyway Banfield gets the ball midway through the third quarter with the game long gone for what was probably his 3rd or 4th touch of the game and Voss says “He’s the one that can lift them, Banfield. He’s the player they will look to to lead them back into this game”

It was at that point I fully realised channel 7 were a bunch of fraudsters that had not watched the dockers play a full game for years.

 

[tacopavlich]

Actually now I’m half a coffee down I do recall he had a lot of praise for Brayshaw being the number 1 ranked mid for score involvements despite being the only player in the top 5 that doesn’t rotate forward. And while copping a hard tag.

His immediate dismissiveness of Freo is noticed by his colleagues not just by us, so his own ego/pride in being an objective analyst will come into play eventually. His commentary is decent he just needs to move on from the Lyon stuff like everyone else has.

 

[MadMundy]

So Sturt is travelling with the squad this weekend to Victoria, won't be playing but Bell said they wanna get him into the swing of things before he gets called back up in the next week or two.

 

[Dockeroo]

His immediate dismissiveness of Freo is noticed by his colleagues not just by us, so his own ego/pride in being an objective analyst will come into play eventually. His commentary is decent he just needs to move on from the Lyon stuff like everyone else has.

Why does he love Lyon so much? Are they good mates or what?

 

[Piggy Smalls]

So Sturt is travelling with the squad this weekend to Victoria, won't be playing but Bell said they wanna get him into the swing of things before he gets called back up in the next week or two.

Also said he has a sore knee...

 

[freoextra]

Also said he has a sore knee...

But definitely playing next week. Did make sense going by him starting in rehab and then moving to the main group, must be minor as he was moving well. On reflection I think the playing group applause was most likely for his return to the traveling group. Helps that he gets to catch up with family as well. Interesting that Bell stated he is close to an AFL return.

 

[Spirit Level]

The good news is it seems like he isn't too far away from playing AFL

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

So Sturt is travelling with the squad this weekend to Victoria, won't be playing but Bell said they wanna get him into the swing of things before he gets called back up in the next week or two.

Surely its better for Sturt to actually play some football?

 

[apuchar]

Surely its better for Sturt to actually play some football?

Sore knee. Will be ready to play next week. May as well travel if he can't play

 

[dockerfemme]

Seeing NO'D play in last weeks game against GWS was the moment I realised we were on the right track as a club. On the right track but too long to get to this point.

Fyfe, Mundy and a few of the older guys are probably not going to play too much more finals footy but for the overall long term benefit of Freo we need to play and develop the younger guys this year even at the expense of a few losses.

Hypothetically if we were to finish seventh or eighth in 2022 at the cost of developing the next generation is a minimal short term gain and best avoided imo.

I had never seen NO'D play until this year when he made his AFL debut but the Intel from some others on here had been that he was a long way off AFL ready and may be was even a bust. Fortunately he seems to be real AFL quality, has upside and fills an on field need too.

There is enough young talent available to build a sustainable future around and I hope Freo are brave enough to look at the long term future at this time rather than go for short term band aids that will probably be of little benefit for the immediate future.

Be brave Freo and develop these young players into a good team that can have a sustainable tilt at finals in the very near future.

I agree with you that it has been great to see Nod play so well. However I always struggle to understand the concept that players have to play afl to develop. Most haven’t played against men and WAFL will give that experience. They would all have plans about how they need to play and what has to be improved.

We often see players come out of state league to afl and play well very quickly, Michael Barlow, Luke Ryan, Time Kelly. They developed well in the state leagues.

I think there is great value in playing finals, testing our game plan against the best in tough meaningful matches. Playing the youth to get games into them and deferring those experiences seems to me to be counter productive.

Why is getting games into the youth so highly regarded.

 

[Demons09]

I agree with you that it has been great to see Nod play so well. However I always struggle to understand the concept that players have to play afl to develop. Most haven’t played against men and WAFL will give that experience. They would all have plans about how they need to play and what has to be improved.

We often see players come out of state league to afl and play well very quickly, Michael Barlow, Luke Ryan, Time Kelly. They developed well in the state leagues.

I think there is great value in playing finals, testing our game plan against the best in tough meaningful matches. Playing the youth to get games into them and deferring those experiences seems to me to be counter productive.

Why is getting games into the youth so highly regarded.

He should be playing this week because be was one of our best against GWS nothing to do with playing the youth, you pick your best team to win if he isn’t playing on Sunday you’re not doing that.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

I agree with you that it has been great to see Nod play so well. However I always struggle to understand the concept that players have to play afl to develop. Most haven’t played against men and WAFL will give that experience. They would all have plans about how they need to play and what has to be improved.

We often see players come out of state league to afl and play well very quickly, Michael Barlow, Luke Ryan, Time Kelly. They developed well in the state leagues.

I think there is great value in playing finals, testing our game plan against the best in tough meaningful matches. Playing the youth to get games into them and deferring those experiences seems to me to be counter productive.

Why is getting games into the youth so highly regarded.

In our case I think the youth are the backbone of a team that can experience sustained success and will improve us dramatically with experience and synergy. I’m not sure the opportunity cost of us playing them now is a finals spot as we are currently barely a top 10 in any case side if we favour experience over youth

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

You should play your best players. Both Erasmus and O'Driscoll have better form than Banfield and should play ahead of him for that reason. They get more football, make fewer clangers, get more clearances, and tackle more than 2022 Banfield.

 

[deputy]

Did you see AFL 360 on Tuesday? He sat there with Leigh Montagna and discussed St Kilda and Freo’s stats profiles. Both full of praise for St Kilda and then when Montagna sang Freo’s praises for a good solid 2 minutes Kingy bristles and says ‘it counts for nothing if they don’t win this week’. That was it, his entire contribution to the Freo discussion.

He is Right though , this game is a game we need to win .Nearly a full squad to pick from and an opposition that is mediocre at best ,In the past these games we'd lose as we were soft.No excuses this week a must win game .

 

[BStaff17]

Lol who here edited Healys wiki page to say Fremantle hater

Bizarre and stupid.

Gerard is one of the only Victorian Afl media types that gives us the time and day constantly for the past 2 decades.

 

[Vintage]

I agree with you that it has been great to see Nod play so well. However I always struggle to understand the concept that players have to play afl to develop. Most haven’t played against men and WAFL will give that experience. They would all have plans about how they need to play and what has to be improved.

We often see players come out of state league to afl and play well very quickly, Michael Barlow, Luke Ryan, Time Kelly. They developed well in the state leagues.

I think there is great value in playing finals, testing our game plan against the best in tough meaningful matches. Playing the youth to get games into them and deferring those experiences seems to me to be counter productive.

Why is getting games into the youth so highly regarded.

Quoted so I can give this another

 

[Vintage]

You should play your best players. Both Erasmus and O'Driscoll have better form than Banfield and should play ahead of him for that reason. They get more football, make fewer clangers, get more clearances, and tackle more than 2022 Banfield.

NOD yes, Erasmus I think is still a work in progress and should come out for Serong or Tucker. He will benefit just as much from working on his game in wafl

 

[Cesoir]

Why is getting games into the youth so highly regarded.