Recommitted Rowan Marshall [OOC 2027] - Requested Trade to Geelong, didn't get done

[Tasmanian saint]

Can't see them playing TDK, Marshall and King? Still think he moves in the end.

And what would be the chances of king playing a full season

 

[iameviljez]

Why does BigFooty insist on all this ridiculous dick-waving over Who Walked Away First?

All that matters is whether the deal gets done, or not.

 

[iameviljez]

You've gone from offering a shit trade for Marshall to offering a shit trade for Curnow

Honestly, I don't think that p19 for a 30yo ruckman - even though he's a quality player - is 'shit'.

It's not Godfather level stuff, but it's not shit either.

 

[voorhees]

Sam Edmund has no idea

bit more of a idea then you, I and anyone else on this board

 

[iameviljez]

Sam Edmund has no idea

bit more of a idea then you, I and anyone else on this board

The fact that Rhys Stanley was announced as re-signing and we offered both picks for Curnow in the one afternoon was not a great sign of health for this deal.

If Marshall were to come to Geelong, there is no way that Stanley would be kept.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Why does BigFooty insist on all this ridiculous dick-waving over Who Walked Away First?

All that matters is whether the deal gets done, or not.

Extended trade period and being forced to endure a deluge of "takes" from the likes of Cornes, Damo, and Josh Jenkins has cooked people.

Everyone has become convinced that you have to win trade period, and that involves screwing other clubs over, apparently.

 

[fpm84]

The fact that Rhys Stanley was announced as re-signing and we offered both picks for Curnow in the one afternoon was not a great sign of health for this deal.

If Marshall were to come to Geelong, there is no way that Stanley would be kept.

tbf the one year deals for Stanley and Knevitt were announced on radio by Mackie during prelim week almost a month ago, not sure why the club waited weeks to formally announce them.

 

[Mr Meow]

Why does BigFooty insist on all this ridiculous dick-waving over Who Walked Away First?

All that matters is whether the deal gets done, or not.

For some reason some fragile egos here need a winner out of "they wanted this and the other club said no". When two parties simply disagreed on value.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The fact that Rhys Stanley was announced as re-signing and we offered both picks for Curnow in the one afternoon was not a great sign of health for this deal.

If Marshall were to come to Geelong, there is no way that Stanley would be kept.

We announced Stanley re-signing before our PF. So they're unrelated.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Extended trade period and being forced to endure a deluge of "takes" from the likes of Cornes, Damo, and Josh Jenkins has cooked people.

Everyone has become convinced that you have to win trade period, and that involves screwing other clubs over, apparently.

It used be a lot more positive i think. Everyone was a winner in some way. I mean look at the most lopsided trade ever. On paper it's Bowes and pick 7 for a future 3rd, but, in getting the money off the books they were later able to sign Bailey Humphrey. Bailey Humphrey signing is basically the cultural turning point for that club.

 

[iameviljez]

We announced Stanley re-signing before our PF. So they're unrelated.

... I don't recall seeing any message at the time?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

... I don't recall seeing any message at the time?

Sept 19th.

 

[Mat Mann]

Rowan must be livid, whined and dined for 2 years, then Geelong walk away from the deal with 6 days to go. How could Geelong do such a thing.............

am I doing it right?

 

[STPer18]

You've gone from offering a shit trade for Marshall to offering a shit trade for Curnow

You can't say The MackAttack isn't consistent!

 

[bird_man]

Honestly, I don't think that p19 for a 30yo ruckman - even though he's a quality player - is 'shit'.

It's not Godfather level stuff, but it's not shit either.

Pick 18 currently, we all know it will end up around 25 plus in a weak draft. He's also contracted.

Seems well unders to me.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

It used be a lot more positive i think. Everyone was a winner in some way. I mean look at the most lopsided trade ever. On paper it's Bowes and pick 7 for a future 3rd, but, in getting the money off the books they were later able to sign Bailey Humphrey. Bailey Humphrey signing is basically the cultural turning point for that club.

Yeah, the football trade market isn’t like the free market under capitalism, where you can hoard capital and where getting ahead is predicated by exploiting others. Clubs are bound by a salary cap, which is essentially a built-in check to stop anyone from stockpiling too much talent or money. You've also got organisations like the AFLPA, which is essentially a workers union with a massive amount of power, who are moderating and restraining the market to make sure that it is working in favour of the players.

Instead, the trade system is closer to market socialism, in that competition still exists, but it’s structured around upper and lower limits, workers rights and, at least ostensibly, it is designed to promote equity amongst clubs. But because everyone see people like Dodoro and to a lesser extent SOS swinging their dicks around and getting attention for doing so, and because the media are obsessed with talking about and grading the performance of clubs in a hierarchical manner, they think that trading is just amount winning now and undeniably.

 

[Falchoon]

Rowan must be livid, whined and dined for 2 years, then Geelong walk away from the deal with 6 days to go. How could Geelong do such a thing.............

am I doing it right?

Add in Mackie is a genius, pivoting to Curnow.

 

[CCurnow3picks]

Maybe, but if the Cats can take Curnow with pick 19 involved they’ll do it in a heartbeat and won’t proceed with Marshall.

I think we all know 3 end of first round picks isn’t scratching the surface.

19 will end up with the saints.

Geelong won’t offer any value-adding players, at this stage anyway.

Can only see Sydney stepping up unless Geelong can get a third club involved.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Rowan must be livid, whined and dined for 2 years, then Geelong walk away from the deal with 6 days to go. How could Geelong do such a thing.............

am I doing it right?

He's contracted and Saints have publicly said they don't want to trade him. Fair enough, that's your right.

Different from being uncontracted and the Giants happy to see him go, then walking away....

 

[aussierulesrules]

Pick 18 currently, we all know it will end up around 25 plus in a weak draft. He's also contracted.

Seems well unders to me.

And his current club have most likely paid half or more of his next two years wages in advance, and will consequently be extremely keen to get bang-for-buck for their $800K or whatever it is they’ve pre-paid him.

That’s a lot of money that we’ve paid him in advance and we’re going to require a good return on it, one way or another.

 

[iameviljez]

Pick 18 currently, we all know it will end up around 25 plus in a weak draft. He's also contracted.

Even p25 for a 30yo is quite ok IMO.

I know that 30 in 2026 is not the same as 30 was in 1996, but all the same we're probably looking at three good years left at the level.

 

[Count_Zero]

I have a question, what does the Curnow chase mean for Shannnon Neale?

 

[catman2006]

I have a question, what does the Curnow chase mean for Shannnon Neale?

He stays to develop needs to get more fitness work and bit better positioning

 

[Citizen Erazed]

We announced Stanley re-signing before our PF. So they're unrelated.

Stanley is effectively signed on as a recruiting manager. The fact he always ends up playing 15 games a year is a bonus

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

To be frank, St Kilda fans have hardly covered themselves in glory on here the last 2 months but whatever doesn't happen on this one will be Geelong.

Geelong have clearly had a blanket rule of not trading for contracted players so they can extort negotiate for a good price. So trying to get two uncontracted players in Curnow and Marshall must be making Mackie feel a bit icky

I would have thought the idea of wheeling out the corpse of Rhys Stanley

1

Rhys Stanley

Age

35

Ht

200cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

6.4

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

27.6

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.5

3star

CL

5.0

5star

HO

21.5

5star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.4

4star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

33.0

5star

for more than a couple games next year was scary enough to just bend on f1 instead 1st this year but it will be interesting to see if they do.