Recommitted Rowan Marshall [OOC 2027] - Requested Trade to Geelong, didn't get done

[FootyLad0]

Hopefully he is because you’re ruck department is probably one of the worst a afl team will start a season with in the modern era especially for a finals team

Ehhh didn't seem to worry us too much against Brisbane the first time or Hawks in the Prelim...

Cats haven't had a great ruck since Ottens and that was back in 2011.
Ruck is not the position of importance that people make it out to be.

Handy? Yes
Integral? No

It's different to say a TDK who is more important for his follow up work because his tap skills are bleh.
We do this with Blics, he may not win most taps but he's a damn better midfielder than most rucks.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Ehhh didn't seem to worry us too much against Brisbane the first time or Hawks in the Prelim...

Cats haven't had a great ruck since Ottens and that was back in 2011.
Ruck is not the position of importance that people make it out to be.

Handy? Yes
Integral? No

It's different to say a TDK who is more important for his follow up work because his tap skills are bleh.
We do this with Blics, he may not win most taps but he's a damn better midfielder than most rucks.

it did hurt you on grand final day though that’s what counts isn’t it , and Brisbane just significantly improved there ruck situation so I wouldn’t be underestimating how important it might be, Brisbane obviously thought it was important

 

[FootyLad0]

it did hurt you on grand final day though that’s what counts isn’t it , and Brisbane just significantly improved there ruck situation so I wouldn’t be underestimating how important it might be, Brisbane obviously thought it was important

We've been through this....ruck is not what lost us the Grand Final.
Brisbane's overwhelming midfield talent destroyed our midfield, that's why the club is trying to address it by bringing in another star mid..

Ruck is about number 8 on the list of top 10 things that went wrong on GF day.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

We've been through this....ruck is not what lost us the Grand Final.
Brisbane's overwhelming midfield talent destroyed our midfield, that's why the club is trying to address it by bringing in another star mid..

Ruck is about number 8 on the list of top 10 things that went wrong on GF day.

Not having someone like a Gawn or Marshall hurt Geelong.

 

[My Tilly]

ruck is not what lost us the Grand Final.

I would argue it did cost us the grand final. We needed a big man with presence to help ascertain the momentum shift in the second half. We got literally nothing out of either one of our rucks. Absolutely nothing. Stanley was a hindrance such was his woeful performance to that point of time in the game.

Fort + McInerney combined for 60 hit-outs, 7 clearances & 8 score involvements.

Blicavs + Stanley combined for 41 hit-outs, 3 clearances & 3 score involvements.

If that was Marshall out there, Brisbane coaching staff would be trying various ways to negate his influence as he would have taken both McInerney & Fort to the cleaners.

It's utterly pitiful we look to Stanley yet again in 2026. Blicavs while a brilliant all-rounder, is not good enough to compete with elite ruckman on his own for a consistent period of time. Never has been.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

We've been through this....ruck is not what lost us the Grand Final.
Brisbane's overwhelming midfield talent destroyed our midfield, that's why the club is trying to address it by bringing in another star mid..

Ruck is about number 8 on the list of top 10 things that went wrong on GF day.

I highly doubt your club believes its number 8 on the list when they were offering a first and second round draft pick for a 29 year old ruck

 

[blackey]

Cant believe this thread is still going.
Geelong missed out, move on FFS.

 

[VDS66]

Cant believe this thread is still going.
Geelong missed out, move on FFS.

Rumour has it that Mason Cox was spotted down the surf coast looking at farms.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Cant believe this thread is still going.
Geelong missed out, move on FFS.

They are still in disbelief that they didn't get Marshall and Curnow for a packet of chips, a soda and a farm.

 

[FootyLad0]

They are still in disbelief that they didn't get Marshall and Curnow for a packet of chips, a soda and a farm.

Projection. Nobody said that

 

[CFC_#17]

Saints the new bombers, winners of trade period.

Can wait to see the how the De Konning Marshall combination turns out.

My bet is the same as De Konning and Pittonet, which is a combined output of 1 player.

 

[Saints43]

Saints the new bombers, winners of trade period.

Can wait to see the how the De Konning Marshall combination turns out.

My bet is the same as De Konning and Pittonet, which is a combined output of 1 player.

That'd be because Pittonet is pathetic.
Marshall isn't.

The Pittonet and Reidy combo will have the combined output of zero players.

Even when banished to the forward line TDK still finished seventh in the b&f.

I'll take St Kildas ruck worries over Carltons.

 

[CFC_#17]

That'd be because Pittonet is pathetic.
Marshall isn't.

The Pittonet and Reidy combo will have the combined output of zero players.

Even when banished to the forward line TDK still finished seventh in the b&f.

I'll take St Kildas ruck worries over Carltons.

TDK as a forward, got to love a forward who’s best return is 9 goals for the year.

Pittonet and Reidy’s combined salary will be lucky to be 700k compared to Marshal and TDK 2.6 million on ruckman. Money well spent Saints, I’m sure you will be crying to the AFL asking for more handouts again this year.

For a useless Pittonet, it’s strange when you get the same goals impact out of him compared to TDK.

 

[BrutThough]

Saints the new bombers, winners of trade period.

Can wait to see the how the De Konning Marshall combination turns out.

My bet is the same as De Konning and Pittonet, which is a combined output of 1 player.

Maybe it will turn out like Ryder and Marshall's did. Was very effective and St Kilda's win/loss record was excellent when the two played together.

I'm glad they are going to try it out rather than just declaring it wont work.

 

[Saints43]

TDK as a forward, got to love a forward who’s best return is 9 goals for the year.

Pittonet and Reidy’s combined salary will be lucky to be 700k compared to Marshal and TDK 2.6 million on ruckman. Money well spent Saints, I’m sure you will be crying to the AFL asking for more handouts again this year.

For a useless Pittonet, it’s strange when you get the same goals impact out of him compared to TDK.

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Marshall will be playing predominantly forward. Obviously.
TDK finished 7th in your b&f playing half the year in a position you say he's no good at. That's got to be a concern now that he, Curnow and Silvagni have been replaced by donkeys like Florent, Hayward, Chesser and Reidy.
I would have thought that you'd have concerns other than what St Kilda are doing. But then, the blosers seem to spend a lot of time talking about the Saints.

 

[CFC_#17]

Marshall will be playing predominantly forward. Obviously.
TDK finished 7th in your b&f playing half the year in a position you say he's no good at. That's got to be a concern now that he, Curnow and Silvagni have been replaced by donkeys like Florent, Hayward, Chesser and Reidy.
I would have thought that you'd have concerns other than what St Kilda are doing. But then, the blosers seem to spend a lot of time talking about the Saints.

You love going on about TDK finishing 7th in a best and fairest year as a forward, Pittonet played 14 games that year only 7 with De Konning, don’t know how he was a forward that year. Or is it because he kicked a whole 9 goals that year.

Florent and Hayward have played in two grand final teams as-well as both played over 180 games but Silvagni and TDK two players that crawled to 100 games over 10 years, are absolute super stars.

Chesser and Reidy are two unproven players, if only the saints didn’t run out of money or else they would have been offered 1 million each, because that is the only way a shit club like the saints can recruit players, wait a second they also need to overpay there own players to retain them.

 

[Saints43]

You love going on about TDK finishing 7th in a best and fairest year as a forward, Pittonet played 14 games that year only 7 with De Konning, don’t know how he was a forward that year. Or is it because he kicked a whole 9 goals that year.

Florent and Hayward have played in two grand final teams as-well as both played over 180 games but Silvagni and TDK two players that crawled to 100 games over 10 years, are absolute super stars.

Chesser and Reidy are two unproven players, if only the saints didn’t run out of money or else they would have been offered 1 million each, because that is the only way a shit club like the saints can recruit players, wait a second they also need to overpay there own players to retain them.

OK. If TDK played so few games forward then why are you so excited about him kicking 9 goals? Still finished well in the b&f so I'm glad he's left Carlton and joined St Kilda
Florent and Hawyward are donkeys.
Chesser and Reidy are donkeys.
Carlton is a shit club. The worst performed of the established clubs for the past 30 years. And they're doing nothing to change that.
See you in next years trade threads when we'll be taking Walsh off your hands. Enjoy the break until next season.

 

[Philth]

Good on the Saints for not letting Marshall go - he's a great player. And that's what a contract is for, right?

I think we'll be seeing less huge contracts in the future. This trade period has seen a few players and clubs not budging.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Soz but only one team achieved their desired objective. And it wasn't your lot.

Our desired objective was to get a ruckman at x price. The price was far higher than x so we left. We achieved our objective. Now whether it was the wrong call or not we wont know for 12 months but we achieved what we planned to. Neither team failed here.

 

[elangcepat]

OK. If TDK played so few games forward then why are you so excited about him kicking 9 goals? Still finished well in the b&f so I'm glad he's left Carlton and joined St Kilda
Florent and Hawyward are donkeys.
Chesser and Reidy are donkeys.
Carlton is a shit club. The worst performed of the established clubs for the past 30 years. And they're doing nothing to change that.
See you in next years trade threads when we'll be taking Walsh off your hands. Enjoy the break until next season.

Chesser is a crab at least a Carlton crab now!!!

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Projection. Nobody said that

So considering what curnow eventually got traded for you think you’re offer of essentially three picks in the mid to late teens was fair ?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

So considering what curnow eventually got traded for you think you’re offer of essentially three picks in the mid to late teens was fair ?

Compared to what he got traded for yes. Carlton got a dud deal for him.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Compared to what he got traded for yes. Carlton got a dud deal for him.

you can’t be serious they got a much better deal than Geelong were offering

 

[Pure_Ownage]

you can’t be serious they got a much better deal than Geelong were offering

Are you seriously that stupid?

Sydney will be top 4 in 2026 and 2027 with curnow so that cancels out 2 of the 3 'late r1s' everyone was complaining about from Geelong.
And florent is a cap dump in an Atkins or Bowes style (except Carlton paid for the privilege).
Hayward is ok but no more than that-hes worth a mid second rounder at best (like someone like worpel was or sam Draper if you wanted to be really generous). If you think Hayward is worth a high 1st 95 % of players on lists are (they arent).
And Carlton had to give back 2 2nds and s 3rd for the privilege (Geelong weren't asking for picks back).
Geelongs offer was comparable picks without asking Carlton to dump 1.2 mil a year on players that wont get them anywhere.
Literally the only thing Sydney offered any better than Geelong was 11 over 19 but the benefit to Carlton on that is based entirely on no bid before 11, if Dean gets bid before 11 then thats irrelevant (because in that scenario 19 and later points from Geelong would have been the same result, theres only value if they get to draft a player at 11 pre bid).

Carlton wanted the Sydney deal because a) they didnt want to deal with Geelong (as is their right)
And b) they were banking on the inclusion of someone like Hayward making the trade more 'sellable' and the use of the headline 'we got 3 r1s and 2 former r1 players' being such that people will overlook the actual details of the trade.
On the PR part of it they are right because most football fans are fundamentally stupid and wont drill down on the actual micro details.

On the trade itself they are wrong its line ball with what Geelong offered at best and arguably worse.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Are you seriously that stupid?

Sydney will be top 4 in 2026 and 2027 with curnow so that cancels out 2 of the 3 'late r1s' everyone was complaining about from Geelong.
And florent is a cap dump in an Atkins or Bowes style (except Carlton paid for the privilege).
Hayward is ok but no more than that-hes worth a mid second rounder at best (like someone like worpel was or sam Draper if you wanted to be really generous). If you think Hayward is worth a high 1st 95 % of players on lists are (they arent).
And Carlton had to give back 2 2nds and s 3rd for the privilege (Geelong weren't asking for picks back).
Geelongs offer was comparable picks without asking Carlton to dump 1.2 mil a year on players that wont get them anywhere.
Literally the only thing Sydney offered any better than Geelong was 11 over 19 but the benefit to Carlton on that is based entirely on no bid before 11, if Dean gets bid before 11 then thats irrelevant (because in that scenario 19 and later points from Geelong would have been the same result, theres only value if they get to draft a player at 11 pre bid).

Carlton wanted the Sydney deal because a) they didnt want to deal with Geelong (as is their right)
And b) they were banking on the inclusion of someone like Hayward making the trade more 'sellable' and the use of the headline 'we got 3 r1s and 2 former r1 players' being such that people will overlook the actual details of the trade.
On the PR part of it they are right because most football fans are fundamentally stupid and wont drill down on the actual micro details.

On the trade itself they are wrong its line ball with what Geelong offered at best and arguably worse.

Its genuinely incredible you've managed to convince yourself of all this. Peak copium.