Ryan Crowley

[Pusswah]

I thought Carlton and Collingwood supporters were terrible but must say after reading all these posts for the past few weeks, all the sulking about grounds, umpiring and the sarcasm they dish out, Freo supporters are fast becoming the worst supporters in the land. Can't wait to see them get beat.

We've copped a lot of stick and put up with a lot of constant shit from Geelong supporters et al.



Get back in your AFL built box until we need you next year for one game a week. Well almost one game a week if you can call it that.

 

[t_bond_legend]

Sorry if you viewd it like that.. Crowley offered a handshake and instead got a pathetic shirtfront by Stevie J. Any player would react to a flog of an act. Arrogant and absolutely uncalled for by Johnson.

Looks like SJ offered his hand first?
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-09-07/crowley-rubs-cats-wrong-way

 

[Armchair Critic]

He wont them in years which we struggled. Ball players were valued more when we played better.



Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. Slightly more is not the expression that best fits.

Crowley doesnt hurt anyone going the other way. He is an elite stopper, nothing more.

Goals hurt more than posessions

 

[ManWithNoName]

Looks like SJ offered his hand first?
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-09-07/crowley-rubs-cats-wrong-way

And then immediately shoved him in the throat. Prick of a man.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Not good enough to make it as a footballer so was turned into a tagger. Like every tagger.

When did this notion of defensive minded players not being footballers come about? FFS every team from day one had taggers (or shut down players as they were known back then) playing alongside more attacking minded players. I won't start listing all these "shutdown" players but will point out that even in the last decade one of the more attacking teams in terms of style of play relied heavily on their shutdown player winning his contest. Like me to jog your memories?

Cats and Ling.

What is wrong with some of you blokes? I dare say most of you Crowley haters never pulled on a boot. I've never seen Crowley as a dirty player like Steven Baker. Baker was a prick of a bloke who tried to hurt opposition players. My take on Crowley is that he plays to beat his opponent...and yes his version of beating his opponent is to negate them rather than out play them.

And even with me saying that about Baker, I would bet his teammates liked having him in the team.

Go Tiges!!

 

[nineteen eighty]

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This shows the different in values. Freo favours a stopper whose main focus os the man rather than the ball, we favour ball players such as Brent Harvey, Daniel Wells and Andrew Swallow.

Not to say one side has better values, but they are different.

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Not to tell your coaching team how to suck eggs but I would argue strongly that until North can develop a strong shut down mid they will continue to struggle. North have the makings of a gun team and your attacking mids are very good. You need to be able to shut down teams though other than purely thinking you can out score them. Defense wins the big games. Always has across almost all codes. Always will.

 

[Such is life Ben]

Yes, you are wrong.

He hurt his week before in the Elimination final. He was carrying an injury.

 

[Tas]

Not to tell your coaching team how to suck eggs but I would argue strongly that until North can develop a strong shut down mid they will continue to struggle. North have the makings of a gun team and your attacking mids are very good. You need to be able to shut down teams though other than purely thinking you can out score them. Defense wins the big games. Always has across almost all codes. Always will.

We had Hine plays a shut down role on Deledio but in general you can't use one or multiple negative players all the time unless your intention is to cause stoppage after stoppage and then bring 8 or 9 players around the contest.

Freo play that way, Swans play that way. Most do not. It is an all or nothing type of approach. Sides that do not play that way just have to be better at employing tactics to counter those type of tactics used against them.

 

[Such is life Ben]

He wont them in years which we struggled. Ball players were valued more when we played better.



Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. Slightly more is not the expression that best fits.

Crowley doesnt hurt anyone going the other way. He is an elite stopper, nothing more.

I have already showed you the average possessions, Rawlings averaged 17 and a half, Crowley 14 and a half. But Crowley has kicked a helluva lot more goals on average hence he does alot more the other way.

 

[Righteo]

Brady Rawlings:
Games: 245
Disposals: 4344 (avg 17.7)
Marks: 885 (avg 3.6)
Goals: 62 (avg 0.25)

Ryan Crowley:
Games: 162
Disposals: 2337 (avg 14.4)
Marks: (avg 3.9)
Goals: 106 (avg 0.65)

[source: footywire]

I know stats aren't everything, but they paint a slightly different picture. As I mentioned previously, Crowley (for a tagger) has always been a goalkicker and one that can hurt you offensively. Those that have watched him play throughout his career would realise that.

I actually think the last 2 years he has become more defensive focus, whilst establishing himself as clearly the best stopper in the AFL. Last year he won the Freo B&F. But, he has still average a goal every two games which for any midfielder is not a bad effort.

For most of his career has been a midfielder/HFF who has been a pretty strong mark and a reliable set shot. He isn't the spud North fans make him out to be, he was simply overtaken by guys who now form our best on-ball combo (Mundy/Barlow/Fyfe), and was able to transform himself into a disciplined and highly effective stopper. Ultimate team player.

At worst he's been a role player who has shown decent versatility and been able to show the commitment and fortitude needed to twice re-salvage his career.

I wouldn't be at all shocked if he picks up his second consecutive Doig this year, suggestions that he's a terrible player with no offensive ability are in a word- ludicrous.

 

[Waltz17]

Can people stop entertaining idiots entrenched in their own dogmatic views? You're not gonna change their mind and no one wants to read it. FFS the election finished last night I don't want to see more directionless contradiction!

As a neutral supporter I absolutely loved the game and thought Crowley's performance was amazing AGAIN. Best tagger ever and any team would have him. Which is incredible considering when Ross Lyon first rocked up Crowley was almost out the door.

I hated the way Freo played for the first six months of Lyon's reign, but damn they're exciting now. Equally as impressive as Crowley's game was Mundy's and Barlow's. Selwood got shown up and I fully expect him to bounce back next week.

 

[Grongey]

With Ryan Crowley all the way.

Sore loser Stevie J. You were shut down mate. Deal with it.

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

Watch out if cats play them in the GF.. Prediction. Pain.

Haha you flog. Nobody is scared of you pussies after Brisbane lowered your colours last week.

Good to see after a pantsing from the purple haze, your arrogance is still strong. No more double chance anymore flog. I'm going to enjoy watching you pricks bow out in the coming weeks.

Not even mad my rabble of a team lost and Abbot won. It's always a great day when Geelong loses.

 

[FyfesBoot]

Jack Dyer use to say 6-8 weeks (suspension) and a flag is worth it

Whoever Fremantle play in the grand final -and its most likely Hawthorn - should instruct one of their players - say Whitecross Hodge or Birchall - 1st 10 minutes - get a 30 or 40 metre run up - and crunch - and Mitchell wont have to cop what Harvey and Johnson have copped

Take your own player out to save him the pain and suffering? That seems a desperate move to me.

 

[FyfesBoot]

Not good enough to make it as a footballer so was turned into a tagger. Like every tagger.

That's a ridiculous statement. If he wasn't good enough to make it as a footballer, he wouldn't be playing.

 

[wce4premiership]

How do you rate Scott Selwood same type of player

Without checking any statistics I'd say a better tackler, which allows him to play a touch looser, tries to take the game on with sidesteps. Disposal has dropped enormously this year but over all average in the skills department. Better overall player than Crowley, can win the ball, better hands, good clearance player and one of the best tacklers in the league.

I'd rate him higher than Crowley, even with his year being inconsistent.

 

[wormburner67]

Between Crowley and Ballantyne we must have two of the most annoying players currently in the AFL!
Wouldn't swap them for anything

 

[wce4premiership]

No I never said he was a star,but he is part of a team and he does his job to perfection,I would take him over Jackson and Cornes every day of the week because he is disciplined and just about always shuts down the player he is on,whats cornes and Jacksons record on Selwood,Ablett etc...can guarentee that Crowleys would be better and he's not reported as much as the other two.
His disposal is not the best but I wouldnt call Cornes disposal much better and Jacksons is ok without been elite....its a wonder you didnt throw up McGinitys name

Why would Mcginnity be mentioned? Can barely get a game for the eagles, and we're not very good

Mginnity tries hard and has pace but isn't in the same category as others being mentioned, he's used to stop small forwards, not midfielders. Crowleys a better pure stopper, but I could also guarantee that Jackson and Cornes would gain a lot more touches than Crowley, there's more than one way to quell someone's influence, impacting on the game yourself is one of those ways.

 

[Freo Hitman]

Watch out if cats play them in the GF.. Prediction. Pain.

Mentally Weve got you lads covered

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I have already showed you the average possessions, Rawlings averaged 17 and a half, Crowley 14 and a half. But Crowley has kicked a helluva lot more goals on average hence he does alot more the other way.

I already pointed out your use of stats is flawed.

Please don't carry on a discussion you are ill-equipped for.

 

[coldlunch]

Looks like SJ offered his hand first?
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-09-07/crowley-rubs-cats-wrong-way

he offered both hands, including one to the throat.
dog of a bloke. don't see how you can get anything else from that video?

 

[FreoRicci]

Looks like SJ offered his hand first?
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-09-07/crowley-rubs-cats-wrong-way

He did and then he realized it was Crowley so let's give him a shove. Sorry but he was the clear instigator. Understand if it's been a tough day harassed by Crowley but that's just poor form.

 

[coldlunch]

Jack Dyer use to say 6-8 weeks (suspension) and a flag is worth it

Whoever Fremantle play in the grand final -and its most likely Hawthorn - should instruct one of their players - say Whitecross Hodge or Birchall - 1st 10 minutes - get a 30 or 40 metre run up - and crunch - and Mitchell wont have to cop what Harvey and Johnson have copped

it's funny how so many meatheads find this kind of action admirable/noble, yet a hard tag is somehow dirty.
thankfully the game has evolved past the idea that bumps will beat brains. try and keep up.

 

[Such is life Ben]

I already pointed out your use of stats is flawed.

Please don't carry on a discussion you are ill-equipped for.

Your subjective responses were flimsy at bests.

You implied Crowley had no offensive skills meanwhile implying Rawlings does. Yet the facts (stats) are Crowley averages almost as many possessions but averages more goals than Rawlings per game, which are valued higher.

See I knew these stats would support my thoughts because I have watched the majority of his career.

 

[FyfesBoot]

he offered both hands, including one to the throat.
dog of a bloke. don't see how you can get anything else from that video?

The shove appears to be to Crowley's shoulder.

Still an unacceptable reaction to the circumstances and Crowley was right to take it up with Johnson to see what his problem was.