Saints Board Phantom Drafts

[Kildonan]

I have no inside knowledge, and have seen only little of a few of these guys but I wanted to have my say anyway - let's hear yours...

I ranked the draftees in somewhat of the order I think they will go in, then tried to address what I thought were the needs of the club at that pick if they had already had a pick - otherwise it was something like best available. I can say too that the guy I selected for the St Kilda pick, Daniel Menzel, - I'd never seen him play - but he was the next highest ranked player on my list...

1	Melb	Tom Scully	15/05/1991	182	75	Mid	Dandenong Stingrays
							
2	Melb	Jack Trengove	2/09/1991 	185	82	Mid/Fwd	Sturt
3	Rich	Dustin Martin	26/06/1991	186	86	Mid	Bendigo Pioneers
4	Freo	Anthony Morabito	29/10/1991	190	90	Mid	Peel Thunder
5	NM	Ben Cunnington	30/06/1991	186	85	Mid/Fwd	Geelong Falcons
6	Syd	John Butcher	3/07/1991 	197	86	Forward	Gippsland Power
7	WCE	Kane Lucas	26/06/1991	188	79	Def/Mid	East Fremantle
8	Port	Luke Tapscott	28/06/1991	180	86	Mid/Fwd	North Adelaide
9	Port	Jake Melksham	29/08/1991	182	70	Mid	Calder Cannons
10	Ess	Koby Stevens	18/06/1991	187	83	Mid	Gippsland Power
11	Melb	Jake Carlisle	1/10/1991 	196	83	Forward	Calder Cannons
12	Car	Daniel Talia	2/10/1991 	194	89	Def	Calder Cannons
13	Ade	Jasper McMillan-Pittard 1/01/1991 	185	72	Def/Mid	Geelong Falcons
14	Syd	Gary Rohan	7/06/1991 	186	79	Fwd	Geelong Falcons
15	WB	Aaron Black	29/11/1990	193	78	Forward	Peel Thunder
16	Port	Matthew Panos	25/01/1991	192	85	Fwd	Norwood
17	Gee	Andrew Moore	30/05/1991	188	81	Mid/Fwd	Eastern Ranges
							
18	Melb	Luke Ball		25/05/1984        183	84	Mid	St Kilda
19	Rich	Lewis Jetta	4/05/1989 	178	73	Mid	Swan Districts
20	Freo	Bradley Sheppard	23/05/1991	186	78	Def	East Fremantle
21	NM	Ryan Bastinac	22/06/1991	183	74	Mid/Fwd	Dandenong Stingrays
22	WCE	Benjamin Griffiths	17/09/1991	198	97	Forward	Eastern Ranges
23	WCE	Allen Christensen	19/05/1991	176	75	Mid	Geelong Falcons
24	Ess	Max Gawn      	28/11/1991	206	97	Ruckman	Sandringham Dragons
25	NM	Jordan Gysberts	11/06/1991	188	83	Mid	Eastern Ranges
26	Ess	Mitchell Duncan	10/06/1991	188	81	Forward	East Perth
27	Bri	Sam Reid  	27/12/1991	194	84	Def	Murray Bushrangers
28	Gee	Dylan Roberton	21/06/1991	190	78	Def	Dandenong Stingrays
29	Ade	Nathan Vardy	25/06/1991	198	89	Ruck	Gippsland Power
30	Coll	Dylan Grimes	7/04/1991 	192	81	Wing/HBF	Northern Knights
31	WB	Troy Taylor	12/09/1991	188	75	Fwd	NT Thunder
32	StK	Daniel Menzel	13/09/1991	185	77	Def/Mid	Central District
33	Ess	Jesse Crichton	18/06/1991	183	68	Mid	Tassie Mariners

Others I considered at around our pick included:

Jack Fitzpatrick	26/06/1991	201	85	Ruck	Western Jets
Nat  Fyfe   	18/09/1991	186	73	Forward	Claremont
Roland Ah Chee	21/11/1990	184	80	Def/Mid	NT
Alex Carey	27/08/1991	181	76	Mid	Glenelg
Callum Bartlett	19/06/1991	182	82	Mid	Geelong Falcons
James Craig	18/04/1991	195	91	Ruck	North Adelaide
Dylan McNeil	20/03/1991	178	75	Mid	Murray Bushrangers
Josh Thomas	1/10/1991 	178	70	Mid	Gold Coast
Travis Colyer	24/08/1991	175	73	Mid	Claremont
Andrew Hooper	18/01/1991	172	78	Mid	North Ballarat Rebels

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Re: Phantom Drafts

Born on the same day as me (albeit a year later)

Surely an omen, get it done!

 

[StFly]

Re: Phantom Drafts

Born on the same day as me (albeit a year later)

Surely an omen, get it done!

And no February babies to speak of, I am ashamed at my fellow brethren, pull yours socks up people!

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2CZXyIepHSs#t=199

Seems to have a nice right foot, average left foot and really cannot handball worth shit going by those highlights is Menzel.

 

[CHBench]

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Ima win $2000 mumma.

1 Melbourne - Tom Scully
2 Melbourne - Jack Trengove
3 Richmond - Dustin Martin
4 Fremantle - Anthony Morabito
5 North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington
6 Sydney - Gary Rohan
7 West Coast - Lewis Jetta
8 Port Adelaide - John Butcher
9 Port Adelaide - Jake Melksham
10 Essendon - Kane Lucas
11 Melbourne - Daniel Talia
12 Carlton - Aaron Black
13 Adelaide - Jasper McMillan-Pittard
14 Sydney - Koby Stevens
15 Western Bulldogs - Jake Carlisle
16 Port Adelaide - Luke Tapscott
17 Geelong - Brad Sheppard/Callum Bartlett/Nathan Vardy

I haven't gone further than that, might do a 2nd round later. Fairly stock standard, nothing shocking.

Did anyone read about McMillan-Pittard in the Age today? Smart boy.

The Falcons lost their preliminary final and McMillan-Pittard's AFL team - St Kilda - was beaten by Geelong the following week. Ross Lyon asked the teenager, in his interview with the Saints, what he would have done to ensure a better result. This time, he didn't want to say too much.

''It was the week after the game and I don't think you should tell a coach what he should have done,'' he smiled.

''All I said was, 'I thought St Kilda lost it rather than Geelong winning it, but I don't need to tell you that!' He said he'd watched it a number of times already and I just thought: how could you go through that? I was in mourning. I was too busy trying to wipe it out of my memory.''

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/the-best-in-the-west/2009/11/20/1258219969380.html

Too bad he looks 12.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

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I propose players go to the team they barrack for.

Come on down Hurley, Suban, Butcher and Jasper!

 

[StFly]

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Come on down Hurley, Suban, Butcher and Jasper!

I'll take that this draft.

 

[CHBench]

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Predicting the 2nd round is a bit of a crapshoot, much harder than it looks. Bias may, or may not have been involved.

    1 Melbourne - Tom Scully
  2 Melbourne - Jack Trengove
  3 Richmond - Dustin Martin
  4 Fremantle - Anthony Morabito
  5 North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington
  6 Sydney - Gary Rohan
  7 West Coast - Lewis Jetta
  8 Port Adelaide - John Butcher
  9 Port Adelaide - Jake Melksham
  10 Essendon – Kane Lucas
  11 Melbourne – Daniel Talia
  12 Carlton – Aaron Black
  13 Adelaide - Jasper McMillan-Pittard
  14 Sydney – Andrew Moore
  15 Western Bulldogs - Jake Carlisle
  16 Port Adelaide - Luke Tapscott
  17 Geelong – Callum Bartlett
  18 Melbourne – Luke Ball
  19 Richmond – Ben Griffiths
  20 Fremantle – Brad Sheppard
  21 North Melbourne – Ryan Bastinac
  22 West Coast – Mitch Duncan
  23 West Coast – Troy Taylor
  24 Essendon – Allan Christensen
  25 North Melbourne – Matthew Panos
  26 Essendon – Jordan Gysberts
  27 Brisbane – Josh Thomas
  28 Geelong – Nathan Vardy
  29 Adelaide – Daniel Menzel
  30 Collingwood – Jack Fitzpatrick
  31 Western Bulldogs – Sam Reid
  32 St Kilda - ???

Travis Colyer's got jet packs strapped to his tiny legs. He's one that could slide if West Coast pass him up in the 2nd round. His height is really what's holding him back from being a top prospect. Plays mostly as a goal kicking midfieder in the WAFL, but he's more than capable of fetching his own ball or swinging into the forward pocket. Listed atas 173cm, although afl.com.au have him at 175cm. He's still a bit on the skinny side and will probably need a good year of bulking up. Plays like Nathan Foley.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UDrr9BjVWo

Nat Fyfe, Stevie J. Stevie J, Nat Fyfe. Describes himself as a tall midfielder who plays predominantly around the wing or high half-forward and highlights overhead marking as his strength. X-factor forward, that has good goal sense and excellent ball winning ability. What he lacks in pace (mind you he's not the slowest going around), he makes up in endurance. Stands at 186cm, but again he too is still on the skinny side and really won't be too effective at AFL level unless he bulks it up for the marking contests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsrOAPhjIyg

Jesse Critchton, just because he's a Saints supporter. Plus he likens himself to Lenny Hayes. Smart boy. No he's a Dale Thomas clone, stands at 183cm, plays mainly outside and sets up play with his "exceptional vision" and awareness. A bit on the skinny side, but he's more than capable of laying a tackle, as our own resident Ranga found out. Needs a haircut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VfJa8IpXY8

Dylan McNeil explained by Bourky23.

Dylan McNeil

Absolutely delighted that I was able to land Dylan here. Exactly the type of player every club would love to draft and it's handy that he fits some of most vital needs too.

Although relatively small in size and stature, Dylan makes up for it with the effort he puts in on the field. McNeil is quite versatile too, with the ability to play as a small forward and kick goals (as highlighted throughout this years national carnival). But he is definitely at home in the middle of the park.. St.Kilda has been crying out for a midfielder with the ability to kick goals and although I doubt Dylan would feature next season, it's certainly something good to have down the track. Has been likened to Lenny Hayes in the way he goes about his football and I can definitely see the resemblance. With Lenny getting on in age and clouds over Luke Ball's future at the club, it really only leaves David Armitage as a pure inside midfielder left at the club so Dylan (although not a pure inside midfielder) will help out in this regard.

Statistics
- Captain of both NSW/ACT and Murray Bushrangers
- Winner of Hunter Harrison Medal 2009 (best 2nd division player at National Championships

Player Resemblance
Smaller version of Lenny Hayes

Strengths
- Strong for his size
- Goalkicking midfielder
- Great attitude towards his football
- Leadership potential

Weaknesses
- Still only a kid, very small in size but could turn out to be like Gary Ablett Jnr in his build if he bulks up a bit and puts in the hard yards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yGFxHM8djQ
Looks like he likes to slap it on the boot and hope a bit too much.

Players that could slide through to us:
Daniel Menzel, Quarterback in every sense of the word.
Callum Bartlett, would need a miracle and a half. But basically a highly touted potentially top 5 youngster who did his knee and is know making a bolt up the rankings. Pace and skill the highlights of his game.
Allen Christensen, "prolific ball winner".
Mitch Duncan, versatile but plays mostly as a mid sized forward.
NAthan Vardy, best ruckman in the draft but at 198 cm he would be more of a KPF prospect.

Familiar names:
Kallen Geary
Nicholas Winmar
Derrick Wanganeen
Josh Duncan - Yes he has nominated for the draft. Obviously he wasn't satisfied with a rookie position. Must've been courted by another side willing to give him a senior spot or we flat out denied him which i doubt. If he doesn't get picked up he can still comeback to StKilda and we can secure him before the rookie draft.

Here's a little game, who does this remind you of?

Not really deadset keen on anybody, but hopefully we manage to nab an epic slider like Nick Heyne last year.

 

[StFly]

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Here's a little game, who does this remind you of?

Someone who drops the ball...

 

[Baker_for_PM]

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What do people think of levi casboult i think he would be a good fit for our team