Yep ... buttering us up to trade that number 1 pick
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Yep ... buttering us up to trade that number 1 pick
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We look forward to Robinson’s expose of the Essendon Drugs Scandal in 10 years time.
Essendon cheated worse than we did and I’m talking salary cap in a premiership year, 1993... maybe Robo could do a story on that...
- In 1996, Essendon were fined a record $638,250 ($250,000 in back tax and penalties, $112,000 for draft tampering and $276,250 for breaching the salary cap regulations), forfeited their first, second and third round picks in the National Draft and were excluded from the 1997 rookie and pre-season drafts after a joint Australian Tax Office and AFL investigation found that they had committed serious and systematic breaches of the salary cap regulations totalling $514,500 between 1991 and 1996, including $110,000 in 1993 when Essendon won the premiership.[12]
So who do we think the wealthy businessman was. And who do we think is still getting paid under the table in the AFL?
The second part should be followed up by the AFL and their integrity unit
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The club copped the most brutal sanctions in AFL history already. The only integrity that needs following up is that of the articles author and intent.
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And the Sydney cheating from 1987 is insane.
"In 1987, Sydney were fined the maximum of $60,000 and forfeited their first round pick in the National Draft after a VFL investigation found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $1.15 million during the season."
The total cap at that time was 1.25m. They were over by more than 95% of the cap...
No one ever brings up their penalties but our cheating was closer to theirs than our cheating is to the present day. Same era, same practice. Ours gets remembered cos of Elliots arrogance and because we were caught just after finishing last, costing ourselves picks 1 and 2 in the draft
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That year Sydney was nearly double over the cap.... whenever someone brings up cheating I present them with the facts and that shuts them up pretty quickly.
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I have little faith in Dave Allison. Obviously under the table payments were made but Allison was a parasite.
Would love to hear Tom Elliott's thoughts on this.
obviously its appearance the day after Cripps re-signs is totally coincidental ... surely it's not possible they had this ready to go as soon as the Cripps extension was announced?
This is more fuel to my fire... but does our club react emotionally to this type of sh!t like we do
Find some pride FFS!
Find some pride FFS!
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Why is it that the media is dragging out our cheating again... they go nowhere near the systematic cheating attempts by Essendon over the years. Systematic salary cap infringements for 6 seasons which netted them a premiership in 1993. The salary cap infringements was setup during Ron Evans final year at Essendon as the president... so he had to have known about it. But he later shafted Carlton as hard as he could when we breached. And then there was the draft tampering and tax avoidance during those 6 seasons.
Rumours of further salary cap infrinements in 2000, via the player websites deals, which appears to have, yet again, netted them a premiership!
And then after getting smashed in 2011, they went the needle and created a systematic doping regime. They got done for the lack of governance because they destroyed the records and then in the final wash, 32 of their players were banned from football for 12 months with 12 months backdated. The AFL hasn't removed those backdated banned games from the players records which leaves Dustbin Fletcher still on 400 games when he should have had 7 games removed and still be on 393.
Because Carlton breached in 2001 when we failed to disclose payments to Bradley and when we got pinged again in 2002 for systematic salary cap infringements, Carlton are always going to be labelled as cheats. Despite the fact that Essendon have been found guilty of a worse crime than salary cap breaches... only Carlton cheats!
Rumours of further salary cap infrinements in 2000, via the player websites deals, which appears to have, yet again, netted them a premiership!
And then after getting smashed in 2011, they went the needle and created a systematic doping regime. They got done for the lack of governance because they destroyed the records and then in the final wash, 32 of their players were banned from football for 12 months with 12 months backdated. The AFL hasn't removed those backdated banned games from the players records which leaves Dustbin Fletcher still on 400 games when he should have had 7 games removed and still be on 393.
Because Carlton breached in 2001 when we failed to disclose payments to Bradley and when we got pinged again in 2002 for systematic salary cap infringements, Carlton are always going to be labelled as cheats. Despite the fact that Essendon have been found guilty of a worse crime than salary cap breaches... only Carlton cheats!
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wasn't allison kouta's agent? and didn't he come to some sticky end, wheelchair or a stroke or disease or some sort of bad accident?
No I meant that he's comment relating to it still going in in the AFL with our clubs....
In relation to how Carlton was treated, yes agree in comparison to drugging players like essendope it was completely over the top punishment
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The AFL never was a level playing field and never will be as far as integrity goes. Ken Wood is more game show host than hard hitting investigator. Just follows public outcry. Essendon copped a whack, I'm more interested in the golden children of the league.
"and I know for a fact that it still goes on today"
Interesting.
How do you factor in all those third party agreements? I know there's some rules around it but i'm sure it would be hard to police...payments can be made in so many ways.
What about offering partners cushy jobs? Tom Scully's dad? Promising a job after their career?
These are all ways to get around it even though it essentially involves guaranteeing more money.
Interesting.
How do you factor in all those third party agreements? I know there's some rules around it but i'm sure it would be hard to police...payments can be made in so many ways.
What about offering partners cushy jobs? Tom Scully's dad? Promising a job after their career?
These are all ways to get around it even though it essentially involves guaranteeing more money.
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Only Carlton cheats.
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Just like only Carlton tanks
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Same same.
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We can hope that Scoop McClure has taken over by then and relishes the chance to dish the dirt.We look forward to Robinson’s expose of the Essendon Drugs Scandal in 10 years time.
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I'm almost certainly in the minority here but we deserved every bit of punishment we copped for this.
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I said
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Fact Geelong Essendon Collingwood Brisbane sydney west coast and god knows who else paid under the table to win there flags
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