Scott Welsh leaving

[MickyCrow]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

do you have a name for that chip on your shoulder?

And i it wasnt for teams like the Crows and the Eagles bailing out your Victorian arses your VFL would be bankrupt, and while we would be at SANFL matches, you would be at the VFA, watching Box Hill v Williamstown, now kindly **** off our board and dont come back, unless you want to show us the proper respect on OUR board, savvy

 

[- PC -]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

If it wasnt for sides like the dogs and dees, there would be no crows! You would be at sanfl game in your bon jovi t-shirt, stonewash jeans and eating pie floaters

Davo, I for one am not frothing nor do I think that this ''rumour' is anything more than a managers beat up

But seriously champ if you believe that comment then welcome to the mods bad boy bin

If it wasnt for the Crows the Bulldogs would be called Fitzroy

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

do you have a name for that chip on your shoulder?

hey talking about having chips on the old shoulder, remember that annoying little arsewipe Libretore jumping for joy when he kicked the sealer for the Bulldogs and all his tool mates grabbed him like the god they thought he was cos they had obviously won the final...oops ...geez was that the last time they even made the finals...aahh pass me those chips.

 

[Mismatched]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

hey talking about having chips on the old shoulder, remember that annoying little arsewipe Libretore jumping for joy when he kicked the sealer for the Bulldogs and all his tool mates grabbed him like the god they thought he was cos they had obviously won the final...oops ...geez was that the last time they even made the finals...aahh pass me those chips.

Nah mate, I think they might have made it the year after, same result though, beaten by us in the prelims, only this time we beat them by more goals than i could care to count.

 

[dA Crow]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

If it wasnt for sides like the dogs and dees, there would be no crows! You would be at sanfl game in your bon jovi t-shirt, stonewash jeans and eating pie floaters

Thanks, I love a good laugh. Reaping the rewards of failure, you must be proud.

 

[macca23]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Forget the Bulldogs or Melbourne or which ever club is offering a 2 year contract to Welsh.

Those clubs are only doing what they should be doing if they're desperate for a goal-kicking forward and prepared to take one at the wrong end of his career.

What does concern me is the overall principal of it. If it is a temporary policy to either offer 1 year contracts or clean out players when they are approaching 30, until we get over the next 2 years transition period then I guess we just have to live with it and lump it.

However, there is a major downside to it though as we saw with Hudson, although I do think he dreamt up the 3 year contract thing knowing that Adelaide don't do that for 28 year olds and that gave him the smoking gun to go.

Once it is clear to the rest of the squad that Adelaide will just let players walk at age 28 or 29 and delisting players playing good footy at 30, then players from interstate will start thinking "I don't want to leave it until I'm 28 to go home because my bargaining power will be weaker"

The upshot of this is that we might see interstate draftees choosing to leave at age 26 for reasons of self protection and income maximization.

When and if that happens then we really will have reason to question the wisdom of this age driven policy which seemingly is unrelated to talent.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Hang on a minute! Are you actually suggesting here that Jason is getting the same yearly salary in his new job as he would have if he played next year?!

If you are then, WOW! Just WOW!

Jason Torney wouldn't be getting more than $50K in his new job (if that) which is not even a 3rd of what he would be getting if he played another year of AFL footy. Now tell me how is that financially viable for Torney?! It is for a club but certainly not for Jason!

50k is of course just an estimate.

However, this is money for old rope. The role he is being given this money for is far from a full time commitment. From what ive seen looking at Ben hart every time ive been down at West Lakes this year, his duties will include kicking the football casually with Darren Jarman, and not much else.

Torney has every opportunity to seek professional development whilst he takes this role, and if history is anything to go by, its not beyond the realms of possibility that there are other positions he could step into in the future.

Its far from the 'every man for himself' that some are portraying it to be. The club hasnt just cut him loose, and thrown him to the wolves as some clubs do. We in Adelaide have a very good record of looking after our players, after the hard decision has had to be made.

 

[Rookie]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Honestly, don't attack our club one baseless rumours and hearsay. If you hate us for other reasons, cool, but don't use this as a smoking gun. I highly, highly doubt Welsh will play for the WBFC in 2007.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Honestly, don't attack our club one baseless rumours and hearsay. If you hate us for other reasons, cool, but don't use this as a smoking gun. I highly, highly doubt Welsh will play for the WBFC in 2007.

Id say this in combination with the Hudson thing has removed any possibility we'll be sending you guys a christmas card.

 

[paul scholes]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Forget the Bulldogs or Melbourne or which ever club is offering a 2 year contract to Welsh.

Those clubs are only doing what they should be doing if they're desperate for a goal-kicking forward and prepared to take one at the wrong end of his career.

What does concern me is the overall principal of it. If it is a temporary policy to either offer 1 year contracts or clean out players when they are approaching 30, until we get over the next 2 years transition period then I guess we just have to live with it and lump it.

However, there is a major downside to it though as we saw with Hudson, although I do think he dreamt up the 3 year contract thing knowing that Adelaide don't do that for 28 year olds and that gave him the smoking gun to go.

Once it is clear to the rest of the squad that Adelaide will just let players walk at age 28 or 29 and delisting players playing good footy at 30, then players from interstate will start thinking "I don't want to leave it until I'm 28 to go home because my bargaining power will be weaker"

The upshot of this is that we might see interstate draftees choosing to leave at age 26 for reasons of self protection and income maximization.

When and if that happens then we really will have reason to question the wisdom of this age driven policy which seemingly is unrelated to talent.

Thankfully some perspective,blimey drivel is in abundance here. Rumours on Big Footy are just complete gospel.

 

[- PC -]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Macca23, would you offer Welsh a 2 year contract...forget policy, forget age...weighing everything up...would you offer him a 2 year contract?

I know I wouldnt

 

[davo ramone]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

hey talking about having chips on the old shoulder, remember that annoying little arsewipe Libretore jumping for joy when he kicked the sealer for the Bulldogs and all his tool mates grabbed him like the god they thought he was cos they had obviously won the final...oops ...geez was that the last time they even made the finals...aahh pass me those chips.

chris mcdermott board

 

[jmorg1]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

chris mcdermott board

No, actually it was Liberatore, not McDermott, who made a fool of himself in the 97 prelim. Nice to see him clawing the ground after the game with tears streaming from his eyes while Rohan continually pounded and cursed the MCG turf.

 

[Mad Dog]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Macca23, would you offer Welsh a 2 year contract...forget policy, forget age...weighing everything up...would you offer him a 2 year contract?

I know I wouldnt

I'm hoping one of the positives that has come out of this year' player churn ..... specifically the Hudson / Meesen thing.....is that the club have signalled that players stay at the club on the Club's terms - not the player's.

I'm a Welshy fan.....but he's a year by year proposition.

Sign up for a year Scott.....or clear out your locker

 

[Mad Dog]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

If it wasnt for sides like the dogs and dees, there would be no crows! You would be at sanfl game in your bon jovi t-shirt, stonewash jeans and eating pie floaters

davo ramone

do me a favour ?

I have no problem with your delusional posts wrt dog's, t-shirts, and scratchy scratchy Libber - as there are enough posters here to deal with you...

....but FFS learn how to quote posts properly........

 

[davo ramone]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

....but FFS learn how to quote posts properly........

I think you will find one of your quality posters started this problem Mr administrator almighty.

97 prelim, if i was from Adelaide thats all the good memories I would have too

 

[- PC -]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

I think you will find one of your quality posters started this problem Mr administrator almighty.

97 prelim, if i was from Adelaide thats all the good memories I would have too

lol you clown you just did it again

 

[Mad Dog]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

I think you will find one of your quality posters started this problem Mr administrator almighty.

97 prelim, if i was from Adelaide thats all the good memories I would have too

Well now let me see...

My memory doesn't go back as far as 1954......but I have studied some Australian history - and I understand that last time the Bullfrogs won a flag - for some reason it wasn't shown on TV......

I also hear that the last time a Bullfrog supporter bought a ticket to watch their team play in a Grand Final....they actually paid for it in Pounds, Schillings, and Pence.......

2 Grand Finals in 83 years of competiton - do you even know where the MCG is ??????

Go your hardest big guy......but to think anyone here would take seriously a supporter of a Club that took 14 years to make it's first final series is laughable

 

[swanfan]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

I think you will find one of your quality posters started this problem Mr administrator almighty.

97 prelim, if i was from Adelaide thats all the good memories I would have too

98 prelim was just as good too . Nothing like being made to kiss the dirt two years in a row.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Forget the Bulldogs or Melbourne or which ever club is offering a 2 year contract to Welsh.

Those clubs are only doing what they should be doing if they're desperate for a goal-kicking forward and prepared to take one at the wrong end of his career.

What does concern me is the overall principal of it. If it is a temporary policy to either offer 1 year contracts or clean out players when they are approaching 30, until we get over the next 2 years transition period then I guess we just have to live with it and lump it.

However, there is a major downside to it though as we saw with Hudson, although I do think he dreamt up the 3 year contract thing knowing that Adelaide don't do that for 28 year olds and that gave him the smoking gun to go.

Once it is clear to the rest of the squad that Adelaide will just let players walk at age 28 or 29 and delisting players playing good footy at 30, then players from interstate will start thinking "I don't want to leave it until I'm 28 to go home because my bargaining power will be weaker"

The upshot of this is that we might see interstate draftees choosing to leave at age 26 for reasons of self protection and income maximization.

When and if that happens then we really will have reason to question the wisdom of this age driven policy which seemingly is unrelated to talent.

Great post. This policy and it's lack of flexibility, may come back to bite us in the ass in the very near future, especially with so many non-SA lads on our list.

When a youngster like Chris Knights sees how we disgard a great team man like Torney ( after an almost career best season ) or only offer a "required" player like Mattner a one year contract, what message does that send. Next time his contract is up for renewal he may think why delay the inevitable.

I quite like the policy but I think the AFC have gone overboard with it. It appears now it doesn't only apply to players 30 or over, age appears to be irrelevant. The AFC should have offered both Mattner and Hudson at least a two year contract. However, I have an inkling you may be right with the Hudson situation but to allow Marty Mattner to walk and get next to nothing in return reeks of incompetence and dangerous stubborness.

Hmm interesting times ahead.

 

[- PC -]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

or only offer a "required" player like Mattner a one year contract, what message does that send. .

Piss off or perform

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Piss off or perform

Does that policy also apply to the coaching panel when they continously play a player out of position or make obvious matchday errors? So if we move Bock from his best position at CHB and allow him to struggle at CHF do we also apply that policy to him?

We need a key forward more than we need a full back so do we move Rutten to FF and if he struggles tell him to "***** off or perform". Or do we move him back to his BEST POSITION.

C'mon PC, silly comment. Mattner was regarded as one of the top 10 wingman in the compeition before the ill fated "back pocket experiment".

 

[BlackDouglas]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Macca23, would you offer Welsh a 2 year contract...forget policy, forget age...weighing everything up...would you offer him a 2 year contract?

I know I wouldnt

I agree and neither would I.

 

[- PC -]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

Does that policy also apply to the coaching panel when they continously play a player out of position or make obvious matchday errors? So if we move Bock from his best position at CHB and allow him to struggle at CHF do we also apply that policy to him?

We need a key forward more than we need a full back so do we move Rutten to FF and if he struggles tell him to "***** off or perform". Or do we move him back to his BEST POSITION.

C'mon PC, silly comment. Mattner was regarded as one of the top 10 wingman in the compeition before the ill fated "back pocket experiment".

You asked what message it sends. I dont even know why you included Mattner. He is a completely different story than Hudson or Welsh

Yes I agree Mattner was played out position, so yes he should look at other options, the policy is not about position, its about age and worth to the club.

 

[BlackDouglas]

Re: Scott Welsh leaving?

98 prelim was just as good too . Nothing like being made to kiss the dirt two years in a row.

Easy – that still bloody hurts so let’s not gloat too much.