News Shaun "The Hangover" Grigg

[yaco55]

If you were to believe the Hun, the other 15 teams are back training (they even ran a story about Nathan Bock overcoming an injury), but our team apparently isn't. Barely a word about our training since Christmas, but fluff pieces on other teams' training. Such great stories like "Western district mates join forces." "Scott's Roos enter ice age." "Dogs in sand storm." Even "Sheedy on global search" about a club that doesn't even exist yet. What does "Vegas trip 'Hangover' for Blues" have to do with the footy pre-season?

Every story about our club is nothing more than a dig at our club. Who can forget the bullshit because Sticks had a Christmas lunch with Elliott & 5 other ex-board members? In the eyes of the Hun this was a step in the direction of welcoming Elliott back into the 'fold'. Hello. It was a few mates getting together for a quiet lunch just before Christmas, nothing more.

The Hun just make it up as they go along, knowing that they have a captive audience ready to believe any 'tripe' they dish up.

You have to Fevola to blame.

You need to take the good with the bad .

This time last year we had 5 fluff pieces from Mike Sheahan about the trip to Malaysia.

 

[celtic_pride]

The most ironic thing is, the two biggest individual journos who have the biggest axe to grind/agenda against Carlton work for other Clubs, Caroline Wilson, and Fat-Prick Smith.

Did anyone hear what Fat-Prick said about Dick Pratt on SEN during the last few months whilst he was alive, that was totally deplorable and below the belt.
Frankly It's Smith's ardent obsession and hatred of Carlton that annoys me most of all.

 

[thylacine60]

Grigg isn't a Carlton player yet.

 

[GoBlues!]

Grigg isn't a Carlton player yet.

Thy - pls explain?

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

lol...this thread is hilarious.

Conspiracy theorists gone mad.

Makes good reading - carry on

 

[mediumsizered]

lol...this thread is hilarious.

Conspiracy theorists gone mad.
Makes good reading - carry on

Bad aren't they? They are almost as bad as the conspiracy theorists who believe Wayne Hughes doesn't like KPPs, aren't they?

 

[sherb]

lol...this thread is hilarious.

Conspiracy theorists gone mad.

Makes good reading - carry on

The unfortunate thing is that if, for whatever reason, you don't adhere to the Herald-Sun vendetta view on this thread you risk either getting your Carlton allegiances questioned or accused of actually supporting the alleged said vendetta.

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

Bad aren't they? They are almost as bad as the conspiracy theorists who believe Wayne Hughes doesn't like KPPs, aren't they?

That is why i did say carry on

I also didnt say Hughes doesnt like KPPs...i said "we need a KPP most"...a very didnt perspective to what you are saying above.

Just on the subject of the HS, here is my personal point of view.

I catch the train in every Mon-Fri in Melbourne and read the HS (every weekday). Average paper for sure but my trip is 20 minutes and the HS has about 20 minutes of content worth reading - nothing more. I reiterate, the paper is VERY average but i want to read any footy news i can.

For the pre-season 2008/2009, there were a heap of puff pieces on Carlton players. Enough that I wondered if other clubs were jealous we got so much attention. There was nothing in it then but a run of articles in those 2 off-seasons. I did start to think we must have 2-3 Carlton supporters at the paper to get so many puff pieces. In the end, it was nothing more than a run of articles based on Carlton's rebuild and the interest around it. No pro Carlton agenda at that time.

This off-season is just the same in reverse (to our detriment). We gave them the head start they needed (Fev + other stories linked to Carlton), and now they are running with it not as a long term agenda against Carlton but as a series of titillating articles against Carlton for this off-season only.

Will a HS reporter look for more Carlton stuff this particular off-season that are hardly news-worthy, yes because they have a fire started and would like to see it grow for paper sales.

Will they forget next year...absolutely.

 

[thylacine60]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

 

[40yearBLUE]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

Have to agree with most of this. Paper circulation does vary day to day and that must be driven by something. Like you I have not bought the paper for years mostly because I wont buy or read the Sydney papers but I didnt buy them in Melb as soon as I started reading online. The only time I read the actual paper is when I am flying out of Melbourne. I also cannot dicern one papers writing from another, my only observation is that during the off season the HUN online content changes daily and sometimes stories appear during the day whereas the Age only post a new story every few days unless it is a headline grabber, and lets face it we created a couple of those.

Andy Capp, Wizard of Id....they used to be funny sometimes.

 

[BlueYoss]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

They have the cartoons on the websites too??

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

Agree with most of that except bolded. I think this is critical to the owner and drives all content. For the HS, I have seen two areas increase; sports content (leads to more readers), and the confidential gossip section (increased readers). Think they have lost readers in other areas like classifieds which are closer to dead in the printed format.

Overall, my point is, if they think a subject will sell papers they will consider it. And as a result, I think the only future for the HS will be to mimic The Sun in the UK, the sport + trash combo!

 

[HBF]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

I normally don't buy into this vendetta talk either Thy, but when a paper continually runs puff pieces on most Melbourne clubs, yet it's focus on Carlton is about it's off-field activities, I believe we have the right to ask why?

Why not go down to Visy Park and do a story of Jamo, who's recovering from his injury. Or Waite, who is almost back to full training?

They have a choice, and yet the continue to pedal the same old crap that has been handled by the club.

 

[ESKIE]

Always amuses me when people talk about this or that type of news making a paper sell.

1. Most people who buy the paper buy it every day.

2. Newspapers make money from classifieds and advertising - sales revenue is an issue but nowhere near as critical. Obviously circulation figures are relevant to advertising clients.

3. I read both papers every day online and I have to say the difference in reporting, layout and article weight seems minimal. The insipid air-head J. Hawkins usually takes prominence most days in both.

4. Speaking of a media run vendetta against the CFC is sinking to a lame victim mentality. As a club we are better than that - as supporters we should be too.

5. Newspaper cartoons are no longer funny - if they ever were.

Yeh but you can;t get the green guide....I love me greenie

 

[thylacine60]

Yeh but you can;t get the green guide....I love me greenie

Blue-esky, only paper I buy is Thursday's AGE for just that reason.

 

[iRemember87]

With the Hangover winning some Gloden Globes does that make our boys reinactment of it worth a logie??

Good to see the boys choose to reinact quality, award winning movies.

Time for print media to recognise this, i did see Grigg up to accpect the award.

 

[Ytoojae]

I heard he stuck something up the fat rat's clacker!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ESKIE]

Blue-esky, only paper I buy is Thursday's AGE for just that reason.

Oh and I love me blue esky as well Thy